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   braindead08 said, almost 4 years ago

   Well, Paul Ryan was one of the Republican participants.
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   Paul Ryan, the fiscal conservative who voted for both Bush tax cuts, both unpaid wars, Medicare Part D and the Bush stimulus, not to mention all his earmarks.
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   Paul Ryan, the budget policy wonk who’s proposed budget didn’t balance until ten years out. Even then, he couldn’t explain it to Fox “news”. The budget policy wonk who proposed a budget, but ’hadn’t run the numbers’.
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   Who, indeed?
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   Rockngolfer said, almost 4 years ago

   Obama didn’t have anything to do with it, he is not in CONgress.
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   douthett72 said, almost 4 years ago

   @Rockngolfer

   And it’s not like he’s the leader of the US and should be able to get the two sides to sit down and figure something out
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   mikefive said, almost 4 years ago

   @Rockngolfer

   The threat of veto to a bill has a lot to do with what congress proposes, though.
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   ossiningaling said, almost 4 years ago

   A roller coaster, although thrilling at times, is by it’s very nature in balance. As long a you don’t count the stimulus power to get it back to the top.
   This illustration is lacking an actual ‘cliff.’
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   Bruce4671 said, almost 4 years ago

   @Rockngolfer

   Hey fellow citizen, maybe you would like to check out then Senator Obama’s voting record. Take a close look at how he voted on fiscal issues. You may want to change your mind about how complicit he is in the looming fiscal crisis.
   
   http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/9490/barack-obama-ii/?p=5#.UNsTIHfbPAM
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   NebulousRikulau said, almost 4 years ago

   @douthett72

   And it’s not like Congress is a kindergarten class that needs Teacher to hold their hand to get anything done.
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   Or is it?
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   ARodney said, almost 4 years ago

   Remember that Obama’s power of negotiating with Republicans is limited more than any prior president. Anything he’s for, they’re against; even if is a great idea that was their idea in the first place. They hate the president more than they love their country. The only way to lead them is to ask them what they want, and when they completely fail to come up with ideas, step in with a solution that doesn’t require their cooperation.
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   D PB said, almost 4 years ago

   It’s truly fascinating when the opposing side complains about the tactics used by their opponents.
   
   Of course it only points to the short term memory who make those types of accusations. The same tactics, stalling, submitting laws that are not designed to pass but to communicate a message, changing tune after agreeing, all tactics that have been used by both parties.
   
   Trying to qualify the party you support as having done it less only proves my point, and it doesn’t matter how much one or the other does it, they both do. I’m curious, do you use that failed logic on your children? “Well, you only took three cookies, Tim took six, he’s bad!”
   
   Of course if you had any integrity you wouldn’t disagree, but . . . . . .
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    D PB said, almost 4 years ago

    @Bruce4671

    Now now Bruce, don’t confuse them with facts, they would rather you appeal to the emotional aspect, facts are to dry and uninteresting.
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    M Ster said, almost 4 years ago

    @D PB

    “Of course if you had any integrity you wouldn’t disagree, but . . . . . "

    Really? So anyone who disagrees with you has no integrity?
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    Wabbit said, almost 4 years ago

    if you put something terrible in place so that something will get done, that doesn’t mean it Will get done. A huge majority want the tax RATE to be the same for the 1% as for the rest off us
    It isn’t who pays WHAT , it’s who pays at WHAT Tax RATE!
    , 10 to 15 for the richest, right now, while for everyone else pays at a rate of 45%.
    The GOP wants to give them even bigger tax cuts! .
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    Joe boyle said, almost 4 years ago

    A camel is an excellent “design” for its intended “application”, a result of long trial and many (extinct) errors. The Congress is full of design flaws such as Boehner & McC. Let’s hope it evolves …
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    M Ster said, almost 4 years ago

    @D PB

    Actually, those who think critically know that degrees matter. That’s the age-old (and valid) thinking behind every “line in the sand” warning ever given. I won’t defend past Democratic obstructionism, but the Republicans took it to an entirely new level from 2008 to the present. The number of filibusters alone proves it. The fact that 15 influential Republicans didn’t attend Obama’s inauguration, and instead met at a nearby hotel to discuss how to obstruct EVERYTHING he would try to do, also proves it.

    Bottom line: They did it, a majority of Americans noticed, and fewer of them will be returning to the House and Senate in January.
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    braindead08 said, almost 4 years ago

    Republicans have gone from being the loyal opposition to being just the opposition.
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    Being willing to once again damage the credit rating of the United States in order to protect the interests of the wealthy is NOT patriotic.
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