Matt Davies by Matt Davies

Matt Davies

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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Bundy ain’t the only corporate freeloader, ripping us off for a lot more than any “social services”.

  2. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 2 years ago

    While those of us in the most hated by the ultra conservatives state of California, pay $1.00 in federal taxes, and get back only some $0.78 in federal benefits. So, just who are the real federal governmental takers and just who are the real federal governmental makers??

  3. crabbyrino

    crabbyrino GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    God rest his soul…an Iowa farmer I knew rallied behind the Tea Party because of “welfare rip-offs.” He was getting a bundle to “not grow” corn AND collecting his monthly Social Security check. Unfortunately, his final MEDICARE benefits gained no extended time on earth to “bitch” about “welfare rip-offs.”

  4. BrassOrchid

    BrassOrchid GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    But what happened to the other $0.22?
    The problem is not that there are too many benefits from government, but that there are too few.
    The government consumes vast quantities of funds, and their efforts are not beneficial to the people to same extent to which they are harmful to the people. As the bureaucracy grows, it becomes more harmful and less beneficial.
    The reason that entitlements and unearned benefits are reprehensible is not that they assist those without the means to assist themselves, but that they disguise the bloat and corruption of the growing cancer of totalitarianism under a sickly sweet perfume of humanitarianism.
    As Lynyrd Skynyrd once said, “Can’t you smell that smell?”

  5. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, over 2 years ago


    Are the people that are on social security (like myself) actually getting an “entitlement” from the federal government? If course we are, as we are indeed “entitled” to those funds as we have paid into the same fund all of our working lives. And this includes all of the elderly that are on social security, whether they are/were a part of the working poor, middle class, or even the wealthy. The same applies to Medicare. And yes, before you (along with some other of our more conservative posters) say it, there are some of us that quite probably have exceeded in benefits what we have paid into the system itself. However, there are also many like my recently departed son that paid into it for decades, and then were killed in accidents or other reasons for dying, that will never collect anywhere near the benefits that they should have received.

    Then there are other benefits that over the years the US Government has given to the people of this truly great country that some of the posters here do not seem to even realize exist, let alone credit their own government for. Such as: The governmental purchase of almost all of the states to the west of the Mississippi River. And the funding of the intercontinental Railroad that made that land purchase such an incredible deal to the people of this country. Then there was the funding of the Federal Highway System that literally millions of Americans depend upon for both business and pleasure. How about the greatest single National Parks System in the World that not only keeps vast treasures of some of the greatest natural places for us to visit, but also preserves those sights for future generations. To say nothing of a military that stopped the entire world from ending up in NAZI fascist and Japanese militarist dictatorships? Or scientific achievements such as NASA and the Jeffersonian Institute?

    Over all, we do have the greatest single government perhaps on the entire globe. I love it when the so called very patriotic ultra conservatives here seem to have nothing better to do than to dis this very countries’ government that they claim to be so patriotic for. If you people truly hate our government as much as you seem to by the tone of your posts, then why don’t you just leave?

    I am certain that the rest of we relatively moderate liberal and conservative Americans here that realize that nothing invented by the hand of man (as all governments are) is perfect, but our government and its freely elected leaders certainly deserve better than the continuous disrespect that some of the perennial ultra conservative posters here give it all the time!

  6. Ted Lind

    Ted Lind GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    I too paid into Social Security and Medicare all my working life. I did an analysis once on what I and my employer paid into social security. It showed that assuming what I paid in earned even minimal interest, I would never receive enough money back to break even. In fact, I probably paid enough for a couple of other recipients. The reason there is a problem is because the government “borrowed” the money and now rather not pay it back. That was not a “liberal” problem, it was mismanagement by both parties.

  7. ODon

    ODon said, over 2 years ago

    Robert Landers and Ted Lind just posted what should be required reading for all.

  8. le-roy

    le-roy said, over 2 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    Mr. Landers: You make many excellent points, and I don’t disagree with much of what you explicitly stated. There is a large difference, though, between the capital investments in infrastructure and other large-scale benefits you mentioned, and transfer payments – taking money from Peter to give to Paul. You aptly pointed out that the recipients of programs such as Medicare and Social Security are genuinely entitled to those benefits. Conservatives do not generally complain about those – it is the welfare state system that is the problem. There are vast numbers of recipients of welfare, AFDC, WIC, Medicaid, and innumerable other programs which are NOT legitimate entitlements, nor are they investments in any sense of the word – they are government charity. Such programs have an important place in our society. We SHOULD care for those who are unable to care for themselves. The current system, however, which is based on the honor system, allows millions of able-bodied individuals to benefit from the unwitting generosity of the middle class. The ACA is a massive expansion of this problem.

    One of the favorite responses of liberals (though not you, Mr. Landers) is to accuse conservatives of hypocrisy for accepting benefits – this is the point of Mr. Davies’ cartoon. It is a fallacious argument. We all have to accept the structure imposed on us, and denying the advantages of bad programs to ourselves does nothing to ameliorate the damage. What makes the program bad is not that some or many people receive a short-term benefit, it is the long-term impact.

    As an example, we will never be rid of the ACA now that the short-term benefits have kicked in, but many of us believe that it will decimate our health care system and/or our economy in the long run. We can’t prove it, nor can you prove we are wrong – all current beliefs on both sides are based on estimates and projections. But honestly believing it to be terrible for our country, how can we just smile and accept it, even if Aunt Gertie just got that surgery she needed? Looking to individual, personal benefit at the cost of long-term structural damage is very short-sighted.

  9. pirate227

    pirate227 said, over 2 years ago

    Perfect! The same idiots that don’t recognize the federal government wave American flags and quote the Constitution.

  10. BrassOrchid

    BrassOrchid GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    “And yes, before you (along with some other of our more conservative posters) say it, there are some of us that quite probably have exceeded in benefits what we have paid into the system itself.”

    To be honest, I don’t actually care who gets what, as long as everybody has enough. If the government is impeding production and industry so that the common wealth of the nation is insufficient to the needs of the people of the nation, then it needs to sit down and think it out a bit. Just draining the economy to redistribute an ever-dwindling cache of common wealth is backyard bunker living. We’ve got to abandon bunker mentality and start foraging anew rather than attempting to make what we already have stretch to cover when we already know that it is not sufficient.

  11. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 2 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    A good post. As a very minor footnote, about NASA: way back when, in the early 1950s I would guess, Robert Heinlein wrote an excellent story titled “The Man Who Sold the Moon”, in which he assumes that the space program would be funded by private enterprise. (The first moon-shot turned the moon into a giant logo; though he doesn’t say so directly, there’s a hint that’s it’s the Coca-Cola logo over the whole face of the moon.) As it happened, of course, private enterprise didn’t have the resources to get the space program going. Once the government did all the initial work, at enormous expense, private companies were able to follow.

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