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One of the brilliant Ideas of our Founding fathers is that they relied on the individual to make a decision for themselves and be judged on what they do with those decisions. There is no real need for them to “imagine citizens having access” to x y or z. It is not really the place for the government to be a free mans mommy. Rights are granted from God! Not Government. So please stop putting words into the NRA mouth, trying to make them the fools.
yes, we don’t need to put words into their mouths to make them sound like fools – they do a pretty good job of it themselves. and while i will agree that video games have some impact on how we think about violence, the NRA did bring up the issue and I wonder what the implication of them dong so is because video games are in the arts and entertainment field which is covered by the 1st amendment and freedom of speech. Shouldn’t they defend the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights and not attack one for the sake of another?
I watched LaPierre on Fox yesterday. Even Chris Wallace worked him over! I am amazed at how he maintains his “new” position on background checks when he used to support them. Oh well, it was interesting to watch for about 5 minutes and then watching cable TV of the Fox or MSNBC genre starts to make me itch…
All the video games based on combat and the talents of special operations folks, and the La Pierre position that video games kill.
Enter the guy claiming the record number of kills as a sniper and his ex-SEAL buddy, ambushed on a gun range in Texas, while granted, helping a fellow vet who’s had “adjustment problems”.
Yes, guns do kill, even the most highly trained combat veterans, who survived ambushes on multiple deployments “outside the wire”.
My brothers. Why do you turn a blind eye to truth? Guns do NOT kill. Yes that is their purpose. But it takes an operator using that gun with the intention to locate a target, point at it and pull a trigger. With out all that the gun will not, can not harm anyone. That’s just the cold hard facts.
So how is it that people decide to do those things? Are they angry? Are they depressed? How did they get to that point?
Well, if your are honest, you will consider that old saying “you are what you eat”. No we are not turning into broccoli. But what we fill our minds with day after day will influence and perhaps mold our thinking and decision making process.
Do you think a young man who sits for hours on end immersed in “Call to Glory” or “Mortal Combat” or any number of other graphic games will not get “desensitized” to death? Where does fantasy stop and reality begin? Sure, most of us can make the separation. But some can not.
When you turn on TV or go to a movie or rent a video what kind of entrainment do we have available?
Popular music glorifies the gangster and abusive relationships.
But no, you want to further erode the freedoms that the citizens of this country enjoy by tearing down the constitution. You want to restrict those that already are no problem because they obey laws.
“Rights are granted from God! Not Government.” . NO! That was what the Declaration of Independence was all about! Rights come from the people. Thomas Jefferson was the first to make the compelling argument that “Divine right of Kings” was invalid, and that people had the right to rule themselves by a system of LAWS. . Your sentence is horrifically UN AMERICAN! It is Anti America and Anti American! . If you base your political philosophy on that precept, then your political philosophy is medieval!
They play the same video games in Europe, Japan & Australia. Yet, those places have less violence. Not just gun violence, which is drastically less, but ALL types of violence.
It’s pretty clear that there are a lot of people here who think extreme violence is often the best & first solution to any conflict.. THAT’s what we should be talking about, not video games.
I’m sorry, I’m sick of the argument that “guns don’t kill”. You can’t kill a person at 600 yards with a rock, fist, sword, or even a crossbow, or even an old English long bow- you CAN with a rifle. At 30 yards, pistols become accurate, but long bows won’t fit in your pants.
GUNSKILL! and people WITH guns kill a lot more people.
Car deaths are generally “accidents” though they can and HAVE been used as lethal weapons for homicides, in fact, killing more police officers than “blunt weapons”.
On “exposure” to violence. Despite all the movies, games etc, a trip to the morgue has influenced a good many kids when they see the REAL impacts of either auto accicents,or gun violence. When they see the actual gore, they know it’s real.
Also, in movies, a fall from a tall building always finds the victim landing on a car, looking like they might have broken an arm, and with typically a dribble of blood from the mouth. From over 100 feet, in the real world, the body splatters over a radius in excess of 15 feet, often a good deal more. In higher falls, it literally is a whisk broom and dust pan situation, with a garbage bag.
With guns, there’s always a nice round hole with a trickle of blood. In the real world that small hole in the forehead (another “classic”) doesn’t show that the whole back half, or top, of the head is blown off!
Yes, seeing real world is NOT TV, or movies, and when kids see the real damage, their attitude toward firearms changes. When my son was about six, I showed him the damage to a deer i’d shot in the neck. Three vertebrae were blown to pieces, and the wound was, in his words: “gross”. It impacted him to the extent that when I did teach him to shoot at age 12, he had respect for the weapon in his hand. He’d long NOT handled my real guns, and was not allowed toys, and he knew from that deer that there is no such thing as a “toy” gun, nor an unloaded one!
My son, like me, has been to real war, and seen real death. Participating makes one much more aware, than the average person screaming for “gun rights”. Well, if guns don’t klll, why teh “H!” do folks think they should have “rights”?
Not once have I called for banning all guns. I DO however hold with SCOTUS, including Justice Scalia, that it IS the responsibliyt of government to REGULATE firearms, and the people who possess them.
When the sniper was killled, it was after he’d been critical of Obama, or anyone else, calling for regulating firearms. One could only wonder if his dying words, on his final breath were, “too bad he didn’t have an M-16 or Barrett .50”.
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dapperdan61
said, 5 months ago
That’s right, guns don’t kill video games do. So do movies & TV shows so instead of scrapping the 2nd amendment do we do away with the 1st ?
Kylop said, 5 months ago
I believe Morty has offered to be our tyrant. He was way ahead of the curve on this one.
Harleyquinn
said, 5 months ago
One of the brilliant Ideas of our Founding fathers is that they relied on the individual to make a decision for themselves and be judged on what they do with those decisions. There is no real need for them to “imagine citizens having access” to x y or z. It is not really the place for the government to be a free mans mommy. Rights are granted from God! Not Government. So please stop putting words into the NRA mouth, trying to make them the fools.
tranquil-d
said, 5 months ago
yes, we don’t need to put words into their mouths to make them sound like fools – they do a pretty good job of it themselves.
and while i will agree that video games have some impact on how we think about violence, the NRA did bring up the issue and I wonder what the implication of them dong so is because video games are in the arts and entertainment field which is covered by the 1st amendment and freedom of speech. Shouldn’t they defend the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights and not attack one for the sake of another?
mickey1339
said, 5 months ago
I watched LaPierre on Fox yesterday. Even Chris Wallace worked him over! I am amazed at how he maintains his “new” position on background checks when he used to support them. Oh well, it was interesting to watch for about 5 minutes and then watching cable TV of the Fox or MSNBC genre starts to make me itch…
dtroutma
said, 5 months ago
All the video games based on combat and the talents of special operations folks, and the La Pierre position that video games kill.
Enter the guy claiming the record number of kills as a sniper and his ex-SEAL buddy, ambushed on a gun range in Texas, while granted, helping a fellow vet who’s had “adjustment problems”.
Yes, guns do kill, even the most highly trained combat veterans, who survived ambushes on multiple deployments “outside the wire”.
Yes, it is time to ask, “Who’s crazy?”
motivemagus said, 5 months ago
As someone put it: if video games are so dangerous, how come people who own them can still buy a gun?
David
said, 5 months ago
We can’t get rid of violent video games. How else could we ever pre-train, for free, the next generation American Soldier?
Bruce4671 said, 5 months ago
My brothers. Why do you turn a blind eye to truth? Guns do NOT kill. Yes that is their purpose. But it takes an operator using that gun with the intention to locate a target, point at it and pull a trigger. With out all that the gun will not, can not harm anyone. That’s just the cold hard facts.
So how is it that people decide to do those things? Are they angry? Are they depressed? How did they get to that point?
Well, if your are honest, you will consider that old saying “you are what you eat”. No we are not turning into broccoli. But what we fill our minds with day after day will influence and perhaps mold our thinking and decision making process.
Do you think a young man who sits for hours on end immersed in “Call to Glory” or “Mortal Combat” or any number of other graphic games will not get “desensitized” to death? Where does fantasy stop and reality begin? Sure, most of us can make the separation. But some can not.
When you turn on TV or go to a movie or rent a video what kind of entrainment do we have available?
Popular music glorifies the gangster and abusive relationships.
http://www.stanford.edu/class/e297c/poverty_prejudice/gangcolor/gangculture.htm
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/n-m-teen-heavily-involved-violent-video-games-officials-article-1.1245769
http://rap.about.com/od/genresstyles/p/GangstaRap.htm
But no, you want to further erode the freedoms that the citizens of this country enjoy by tearing down the constitution. You want to restrict those that already are no problem because they obey laws.
It won’t help.
ansonia
said, 5 months ago
@motivemagus
Video games are inanimate objects.
In the hands of a stable person they are just games.
ReasonsVentriloquist said, 5 months ago
@Harleyquinn
“Rights are granted from God! Not Government.”
.
NO! That was what the Declaration of Independence was all about! Rights come from the people. Thomas Jefferson was the first to make the compelling argument that “Divine right of Kings” was invalid, and that people had the right to rule themselves by a system of LAWS.
.
Your sentence is horrifically UN AMERICAN! It is Anti America and Anti American!
.
If you base your political philosophy on that precept, then your political philosophy is medieval!
Uncle Joe said, 5 months ago
They play the same video games in Europe, Japan & Australia. Yet, those places have less violence. Not just gun violence, which is drastically less, but ALL types of violence.
It’s pretty clear that there are a lot of people here who think extreme violence is often the best & first solution to any conflict.. THAT’s what we should be talking about, not video games.
Uncle Joe said, 5 months ago
@ansonia
“Video games are inanimate objects.
In the hands of a stable person they are just games.”
In the hands of an unstable person, they are just games. A gun on the other hand, can be deadly in the hands of someone with mental issues.
Baleine said, 5 months ago
@dapperdan61
Don’t forget rock music. That’s been corrupting kids for generations. I wonder if that is why congress is the way it is.
dtroutma
said, 5 months ago
I’m sorry, I’m sick of the argument that “guns don’t kill”. You can’t kill a person at 600 yards with a rock, fist, sword, or even a crossbow, or even an old English long bow- you CAN with a rifle. At 30 yards, pistols become accurate, but long bows won’t fit in your pants.
GUNS KILL! and people WITH guns kill a lot more people.
Car deaths are generally “accidents” though they can and HAVE been used as lethal weapons for homicides, in fact, killing more police officers than “blunt weapons”.
On “exposure” to violence. Despite all the movies, games etc, a trip to the morgue has influenced a good many kids when they see the REAL impacts of either auto accicents,or gun violence. When they see the actual gore, they know it’s real.
Also, in movies, a fall from a tall building always finds the victim landing on a car, looking like they might have broken an arm, and with typically a dribble of blood from the mouth. From over 100 feet, in the real world, the body splatters over a radius in excess of 15 feet, often a good deal more. In higher falls, it literally is a whisk broom and dust pan situation, with a garbage bag.
With guns, there’s always a nice round hole with a trickle of blood. In the real world that small hole in the forehead (another “classic”) doesn’t show that the whole back half, or top, of the head is blown off!
Yes, seeing real world is NOT TV, or movies, and when kids see the real damage, their attitude toward firearms changes. When my son was about six, I showed him the damage to a deer i’d shot in the neck. Three vertebrae were blown to pieces, and the wound was, in his words: “gross”. It impacted him to the extent that when I did teach him to shoot at age 12, he had respect for the weapon in his hand. He’d long NOT handled my real guns, and was not allowed toys, and he knew from that deer that there is no such thing as a “toy” gun, nor an unloaded one!
My son, like me, has been to real war, and seen real death. Participating makes one much more aware, than the average person screaming for “gun rights”. Well, if guns don’t klll, why teh “H!” do folks think they should have “rights”?
Not once have I called for banning all guns. I DO however hold with SCOTUS, including Justice Scalia, that it IS the responsibliyt of government to REGULATE firearms, and the people who possess them.
When the sniper was killled, it was after he’d been critical of Obama, or anyone else, calling for regulating firearms. One could only wonder if his dying words, on his final breath were, “too bad he didn’t have an M-16 or Barrett .50”.