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The deniers will keep on denying with their last breaths. The far “right” never gives up, never backs down and never concedes anything. Their identity is tied up in their warped world view.
I am going to anticipate the usual spate of ignorant global warming deniers: you are wrong, the OVERWHELMING majority of scientists in applicable disciplines have concluded THROUGHDATA that AGW is real, many are posting their data (go to realclimate.org and see for yourself), the science isn’t even very difficult to understand (go to www.ncse.org/climate for an excellent introduction with links), and there are definitely things we can do about it. So before you start posting nonsense: better check your sources against real data. That means: NOT the Petition Project, which was debunked long ago, NO Al Gore references, since he is IRRELEVANT to the scientific debate and always has been NO claims that scientists have “forgotten the sun,” “ignored regular cycles,” or "can’t go back more than a century with data: — they haven’t, that’s part of the evidence, and yes they can. Try to consider that a specialist in this field might know at least as much as someone trolling GoComics.com, let alone the ten thousand times more they actually do. Any REAL, thoughtful comments, e.g., on what we might try to do (which is admittedly a challenge given the available time) willnbe welcome.
I sometimes (well, pretty often) worry about things like the unemployment numbers, the national debt, the cost of health care, you know, the usual stuff that gets argued about during political campaigns, but then I remember the Climate Change problem, and I wonder how that factors in to all these other problems. If this Climate Change problem is real (and I see no reason to think otherwise) then we’ve really got a problem, and no matter what we do, it’s going to get worse for a while. I think it’s going to be a rough century.
The problem with deniers is that they abort the serious debate that needs to start now. Basically can we and do we try to stop the warming or do we start figuring out how to live with the new reality. Either approach is likely to be very expensive and require massive changes to the way we live. We probably can’t afford to do both. And if we wait to long we may not be able to do either.
And for the good news, last night (On Canadian television), it was reported that 70% of Americans now believe in global warming. ’Way up, and climbing. (Everyone gets it now except south-eastern conservative uneducated fundamentalists.)
Interesting, y’know. The majority of people reject scientific data and need to personally experience a few scorching summers before they catch on.
It tells SABRSteve absolutely nothing. He is an absolute denier, very like conspiracy freaks whose minds are totally closed to any but their own fantasies.
truth is not accepted, deniers will have to wake up sometime. I wish they were right. I wish the glacier ice were not melting at a foot an hour. I WIsh the polar bears were not losing the battle of melting ice. I would be overjoyed if they were right, but they are all either lying to themselves or others. Until a problem is admitted and addressed nothing helpful will be done.
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dtroutma
said, 10 months ago
chuckle
Clark Kent said, 10 months ago
The deniers will keep on denying with their last breaths.
The far “right” never gives up, never backs down and never concedes anything. Their identity is tied up in their warped world view.
sw10mm said, 10 months ago
@Clark Kent
It’s not hard to refute those who don’t think and it takes no effort to say no to the childlike that are led by fantasy.
motivemagus said, 10 months ago
I am going to anticipate the usual spate of ignorant global warming deniers: you are wrong, the OVERWHELMING majority of scientists in applicable disciplines have concluded THROUGH DATA that AGW is real, many are posting their data (go to realclimate.org and see for yourself), the science isn’t even very difficult to understand (go to www.ncse.org/climate for an excellent introduction with links), and there are definitely things we can do about it.
So before you start posting nonsense: better check your sources against real data. That means:
NOT the Petition Project, which was debunked long ago,
NO Al Gore references, since he is IRRELEVANT to the scientific debate and always has been
NO claims that scientists have “forgotten the sun,” “ignored regular cycles,” or "can’t go back more than a century with data: — they haven’t, that’s part of the evidence, and yes they can. Try to consider that a specialist in this field might know at least as much as someone trolling GoComics.com, let alone the ten thousand times more they actually do.
Any REAL, thoughtful comments, e.g., on what we might try to do (which is admittedly a challenge given the available time) willnbe welcome.
lonecat said, 10 months ago
@motivemagus
I sometimes (well, pretty often) worry about things like the unemployment numbers, the national debt, the cost of health care, you know, the usual stuff that gets argued about during political campaigns, but then I remember the Climate Change problem, and I wonder how that factors in to all these other problems. If this Climate Change problem is real (and I see no reason to think otherwise) then we’ve really got a problem, and no matter what we do, it’s going to get worse for a while. I think it’s going to be a rough century.
pdchapin said, 10 months ago
The problem with deniers is that they abort the serious debate that needs to start now. Basically can we and do we try to stop the warming or do we start figuring out how to live with the new reality. Either approach is likely to be very expensive and require massive changes to the way we live. We probably can’t afford to do both. And if we wait to long we may not be able to do either.
walruscarver2000 said, 10 months ago
“It’s just a flesh wound.”
DrCanuck said, 10 months ago
And for the good news, last night (On Canadian television), it was reported that 70% of Americans now believe in global warming. ’Way up, and climbing. (Everyone gets it now except south-eastern conservative uneducated fundamentalists.)
Interesting, y’know. The majority of people reject scientific data and need to personally experience a few scorching summers before they catch on.
lonecat said, 10 months ago
@DrCanuck
But then it will snow in December and the number will go down to 30%.
skipcarlsen said, 10 months ago
If there was money to be made in it I have no doubt that some of those unscrupulous scientists would do just that!
SABRSteve said, 10 months ago
Glaciers have been receding for hundreds of years.
charliekane said, 10 months ago
History and science! Whatta combo!
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/
ruff
said, 10 months ago
@SABRSteve
Correct. In the past about 30 years, they have receded by the same percentage as in the 200 years before that. Tells you something ??
spelvin2002
said, 10 months ago
@ruff
It tells SABRSteve absolutely nothing. He is an absolute denier, very like conspiracy freaks whose minds are totally closed to any but their own fantasies.
Wabbit
said, 10 months ago
truth is not accepted, deniers will have to wake up sometime. I wish they were right. I wish the glacier ice were not melting at a foot an hour.
I WIsh the polar bears were not losing the battle of melting ice.
I would be overjoyed if they were right, but they are all either lying to themselves or others.
Until a problem is admitted and addressed nothing helpful will be done.