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   oldlegodad said, 9 months ago

   Taxpayer said it all. No more asinine comments needed, left or right, correct??

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   motivemagus said, 9 months ago

   Yes, oldlegodad, we need one - this cartoon implies that it is the Democrats’ fault, which it is not. We are so deeply in debt and the economy is in crisis because of Bush and the Republicans. That’s the part you don’t see here. The stimulus is peanuts compared what Bush did with the Iraq war and Paulsen’s oversight-free buddy bailout.

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   etocme said, 9 months ago

   Motive, I’ll agree with you. Bush was no fiscal conservative….But how about a stimulus package that puts the money back in the pockets of the people and less to liberal social programs?

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   motivemagus said, 9 months ago

   etocme - that’s been part of Obama’s plan from the beginning, remember the middle-class tax cut? But also you need to build up jobs, and he’s doing what FDR did (successfully - ignore the bloviators, look at the evidence) of giving jobs which put money back into the pockets of working people and provide infrastructure that will benefit the whole country. People forget that things like the TVA, Hoover Dam, and so forth were government projects, which had profound long-term benefits.

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   HUMPHRIES said, 9 months ago

   motive, there appears to be a fair amount of similitary between the current stimulus bill and the NRA of 1933. Lots of lessons but the subject seems banned. Any opinion?

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   motivemagus said, 9 months ago

   I think it’s no accident, humph. It worked.

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   HUMPHRIES said, 9 months ago

   motive, thanks for that moment. But besides the content, the complaints aginist them are very simulur. I just wonder why there has been little if any comparason of the two. Sorry, guess I didn’t make my question clear.

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   motivemagus said, 9 months ago

   I haven’t seen a point-for-point comparison, if that’s what you mean; I have seen explicit comparisons made between the general approach by FDR and why it makes sense for the stimulus. Note that the wealthy and conservative (who tend to blame the poor for being poor – that’s not a slap, that’s their ethos, that hard work can make anyone rich) hated FDR from day one as a “traitor to his class” by helping the poor get a leg up and charging them for it, even though it supported the whole economy in the long run.
   Nate Silver at www.fivethirtyeight.com has a very impressive analysis of how incomes went up or down during the past few administrations back to Nixon/Ford, relative to different income bands. Makes a good case that we should be helping everyone, not shoveling money in one direction _or_ the other.

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   deadheadzan said, 9 months ago

   Motive- thanks for the link.

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    HUMPHRIES said, 9 months ago

    motive- ditto

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    ANandy said, 9 months ago

    I just hope history doesn’t repeat itself. The unemployment rate was over 20% in 1938, five years subsequent to the NRA of 1933. Maybe BO can find us a war to take our minds off our mizery.

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    claudermilk said, 9 months ago

    What? 2 isn’t enough for you? I can agree, let’s hope history does not repeat itself.

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    oldlegodad said, 9 months ago

    What we need is a BIG war that will cause pain and hardship at home with a draft and nukes and all that good stuff.Hoorah!

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    HUMPHRIES said, 9 months ago

    oldie, doesn’t have to be too big. Watch the patriots come out as soon as the word “draft” is mentioned in congress. Shades of ‘69.

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    Brainiak said, 9 months ago

    All kidding aside Pelosi is hot!!

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    HUMPHRIES said, 9 months ago

    Brainiak … just how old are you!?

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    oldlegodad said, 9 months ago

    more importantly, when was the last time you had non solitary s€x?

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    rustyblade said, 9 months ago

    Don’t worry, when its time for the next round of elections there will be plenty of money to go around!

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    oldlegodad said, 9 months ago

    A FWd internet joke submitted with only the last line being mine: A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, What are all those clocks?

    St. Peter answered, “Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clocks. Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move.”

    Oh, said the man, whose clock is that?
    
    That’s Mother Teresa’s. The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.
    Incredible, said the man. And whose clock is that one?

    St. Peter responded, That’s Abraham Lincoln’s clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his entire life.

    Where’s Barrack Obama’s clock? asked the man.

    Obama’s clock is in Jesus’ office. He’s using it as a ceiling fan.

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    fennec said, 9 months ago

    Oldlego, you missed your own last line!
    “GWB’s wore out>”

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    teaguemj said, 9 months ago

    Yep. Me too. I already have 3 Jobs.

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    DHLEAKY said, 9 months ago

    The TVA is the most mentioned, but it is not the most useful of the projects of the NEW DEAL
    ,
    Works Progress Administration.
    employing millions of people and affecting most every locality in the United States, especially rural and western mountain populations.
    ,
    Emergency Relief Appropriation Act
    It was a “large-scale public works program for the jobless” included the Works Progress Administration. It allocated $5 billion for this purpose.
    The bill included funds for the Federal Arts Project, the Federal Writer Project, and the Federal Theater Project.
    ,
    Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC)
    was a public work relief program for unemployed men, focused on natural resource conservation.
    Designed first, to aid relief of high unemployment, and secondly, carry out a broad natural resource conservation program on national, state and municipal lands. Emergency Conservation Work Act as it was known, The CCC became one of the most popular New Deal programs among the general public and operated in every U.S. state and territories of Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. The separate Indian Division was a major relief force for Native American reservations. Most of the National and State parks were built , or improved by the WPA. Practically every city in our state has paved streets built by the WPA that are still in use today, Post Offices were built, and many other projects that are still operating today.

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    oldlegodad said, 9 months ago

    Fennec, you are right. Sorry Folks.

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    deadheadzan said, 9 months ago

    DHLeakey, great civics and history lesson. Imagine today if we could completely work on a green energy grid, and high speed internet nation wide, to name just 2 ideas.

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    oldlegodad said, 9 months ago

    The CCC also started the training of a large body of young men in physical conditioning and group discipline in preparation for the war FDR hoped would come.