She knew Gunther for the last 25 years…
I don’t know about his age group, but this was the typical situation with mine. NWF, vol 1, pages 300-301:
“It could get ugly when a non-”bad boy" would try to ask a woman out. Part of the natural risk of asking someone out is being turned down and we men are indeed used to being rejected, but in many cases it “wasn’t enough” for this group to just turn a man down when he asked a woman out— many women had to “make sure” that he was trashed, humiliated. Because it was fun for them to do so, or to prove to their circle of friends that they had no interest in an “ordinary” guy. Or both. Or because she was nasty and trained to be egocentric. (Esteem self, right?) ‘Ewwww, what is this guy doing, tainting me by trying to ask me out,’ was frequently the attitude and it made men who saw it roll their eyes at the displays of ego and sheer nastiness. Some women were so vile as to return cards or flowers sent by guys because a guy who was not a “bad boy” being interested in them would affect their “social standing.” Nor are we necessarily talking about the “beauty queens” where one might possibly expect such antisocial behavior, either. Such attitudes were independent of “looks” or any other factor.
Then if that kind of thing wasn’t enough, in the last year, I’ve actually heard the complaint by women of this age group that ordinary guys are “to blame” for the women’s chasing of the 10% or 20%, because the ordinary guys didn’t “make themselves attractive enough” to the women. "