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Do we actually blame the actions of individual employees on the CEO’s of large corporations? I think not. So why should we blame the individual actions of the largest political entity on earth in the federal establishment on the President of the USA? And note, while he might set incorrect general policies (such as GW Bush did with the Iraq war), I never even blamed GWBush (or any other president for that matter) for the individual actions of federal employees, regardless of just how wrong those actions might have been!!
On the CEO’s line, there are many liberals who howled during the initial recession and threw the CEO’s and presidents of many large corporations under the bus. “Fat Cats” ring a bell? You condemn their actions for guiding the direction of a company, but you refuse to condemn the actions of the President guiding the direction of the government. Same principle.
@ ConserveGov – Interesting how a person can be “not guilty” but still be responsible. How much of the protections given by that “Umbrella” was meant to give him plausible deniability? No one tells him so he doesn’t have to admit knowing? I hope that is not the case. That is not leadership. Leadership means taking responsibility and resolving the issues. Mr. Obama is disappointing me in that regard. @ Robert Landers – CEO’s don’t get elected. The political dynamics in a board room are much more ‘civilized’ and final than those of our tribal parties, the Reps and Dems. The sins of the one are the sins of all. If one Republican is corrupt they all are. If one Democrat is showing pics of himself on twitter, ALL of them do. That said, I do believe Mr. Obama needs to show leadership on this issue and make it resolved asap. ^ So many of our fellow commentators say ALL dems are stupid, or ALL conservatives are dumb. It does not advance the debate nor does it Unite our neighbors. Thank you, Mr. Landers, for not being one of those narrowminded voices, onguard to attack message and messenger alike. Respectfully, C.
Correction, “[The republicans are being] Disingenuous. "
As for Robert Landers’ point, he is absolutely correct. It’s just the brainwashed republicans can’t see the double standards due to the fact that they have been using them for so long it seems like normal practice to them now.
There is a difference between your _want" and what RL wrote. There is a difference between the direction of a company and the actions of a few departments, just as there is a difference between the direction of a country and the actions of a few offices of a few departments. But how dare anyone excuse this President for any of the manufactured scandals the republicans are perpetrating.
Seems like we read and see different sources of information, or you have lost your objectivity. The more we learn about these (manufactured by the republicans in power) scandals the less they are what the republicans in power claimed them to be in the first place. Now that sounds familiar doesn’t it? What really happened isn’t what we were initially told. Sounds familiar doesn’t it? Yes things happened, things that should not have happened. But the more we learn, and not from the witch hunt for partisan gain in the HoR, the less these are like what the RIPs tried selling us to begin with.
We blame military commanders for their troop’s actions. Upper management fires or disciplines lower management for the actions or lack of action by employees and avoids being disciplined themselves for their actions while taking bonuses. At what level does it become ok to be immune from the consequences of those you are under you leadership? It has been my experience the employees start to mirror the bosses examples.
Mix a snifter of Bill Mauldin, a dash of Jeff McNelly and a very large dollop of common sense, and you begin to get an idea of Lisa Benson’s considerable talent.
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Comments (55) (Please sign in to comment)
ConserveGov said, about 24 hours ago
“The buck stop with me……. Just kidding”.
BHO
ReFlex-76
said, about 23 hours ago
- That should be “scandals”; they’ve all pretty much fallen apart.
Stipple said, about 22 hours ago
Why is not that a Marine holding the umbrella?
Civilians need more pay.
Robert Landers said, about 20 hours ago
@ConserveGov
Do we actually blame the actions of individual employees on the CEO’s of large corporations? I think not. So why should we blame the individual actions of the largest political entity on earth in the federal establishment on the President of the USA? And note, while he might set incorrect general policies (such as GW Bush did with the Iraq war), I never even blamed GWBush (or any other president for that matter) for the individual actions of federal employees, regardless of just how wrong those actions might have been!!
narrowminded said, about 18 hours ago
@Robert Landers
Disingenuous.
onguard said, about 18 hours ago
Obama is lying to everybody else why not to himself.
russell5419 said, about 17 hours ago
lmao
Captain Colorado said, about 17 hours ago
What a pansy!
Wraithkin said, about 17 hours ago
@Robert Landers
On the CEO’s line, there are many liberals who howled during the initial recession and threw the CEO’s and presidents of many large corporations under the bus. “Fat Cats” ring a bell? You condemn their actions for guiding the direction of a company, but you refuse to condemn the actions of the President guiding the direction of the government. Same principle.
mikefive said, about 17 hours ago
@ReFlex-76
" That should be “scandals”; they’ve all pretty much fallen apart."
♦
I think that is more a hope than a reality.
Respectful Troll said, about 17 hours ago
@ ConserveGov – Interesting how a person can be “not guilty” but still be responsible. How much of the protections given by that “Umbrella” was meant to give him plausible deniability? No one tells him so he doesn’t have to admit knowing? I hope that is not the case. That is not leadership. Leadership means taking responsibility and resolving the issues. Mr. Obama is disappointing me in that regard.
@ Robert Landers – CEO’s don’t get elected. The political dynamics in a board room are much more ‘civilized’ and final than those of our tribal parties, the Reps and Dems. The sins of the one are the sins of all. If one Republican is corrupt they all are. If one Democrat is showing pics of himself on twitter, ALL of them do. That said, I do believe Mr. Obama needs to show leadership on this issue and make it resolved asap.
^
So many of our fellow commentators say ALL dems are stupid, or ALL conservatives are dumb. It does not advance the debate nor does it Unite our neighbors. Thank you, Mr. Landers, for not being one of those narrowminded voices, onguard to attack message and messenger alike.
Respectfully,
C.
TheTrustedMechanic said, about 16 hours ago
@narrowminded
Correction,
“[The republicans are being] Disingenuous. "
As for Robert Landers’ point, he is absolutely correct. It’s just the brainwashed republicans can’t see the double standards due to the fact that they have been using them for so long it seems like normal practice to them now.
TheTrustedMechanic said, about 16 hours ago
@Wraithkin
There is a difference between your _want" and what RL wrote. There is a difference between the direction of a company and the actions of a few departments, just as there is a difference between the direction of a country and the actions of a few offices of a few departments. But how dare anyone excuse this President for any of the manufactured scandals the republicans are perpetrating.
TheTrustedMechanic said, about 16 hours ago
@mikefive
Seems like we read and see different sources of information, or you have lost your objectivity. The more we learn about these (manufactured by the republicans in power) scandals the less they are what the republicans in power claimed them to be in the first place. Now that sounds familiar doesn’t it? What really happened isn’t what we were initially told. Sounds familiar doesn’t it? Yes things happened, things that should not have happened. But the more we learn, and not from the witch hunt for partisan gain in the HoR, the less these are like what the RIPs tried selling us to begin with.
Kevin Robinson said, about 16 hours ago
@Robert Landers
We blame military commanders for their troop’s actions. Upper management fires or disciplines lower management for the actions or lack of action by employees and avoids being disciplined themselves for their actions while taking bonuses. At what level does it become ok to be immune from the consequences of those you are under you leadership? It has been my experience the employees start to mirror the bosses examples.