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NO……it is not that simple, conservatives. The problem is man.. In his cheating, lying, stealing, being intolerant, disrespectful, greedy. A criminal element is formed…this is expensive… We must work on this problem in a more intelligent manner.
It’s my understanding that the basis for the CA balanced budget is based on taxing the volatile year to year income of the very rich. If this is so, then the CA budget is on very treacherous ground.
“I don’t know dude looks to me like the liberals are the ones screwing the poor.”
Democrats have a track record of being willing to fund programs to help lower income people.
The California Democrats have been terrible about fiscal responsibility, but I recall a certain Republican Governor who wasted away the chance to bring things in order.
The states with the lowest per capita debt fall into 3 categories:
States riding high energy prices, (Texas, N. Dakota)
States with small, rural populations. (Iowa, Wyoming)
States that spend little on education & services… not coincidentally these are states with the highest poverty rates. (Mississippi, Alabama)
My main point is that local economics have at least as much to do with state debts as political control.
BTW, yesterday there was a discussion about immigration where you said, “Now tell me which one of these organizations is calling for “citizenship” for those that came to the US illegally? Which one of these organizations is lobbying for “Irish” rights? "
There were no immigration laws at all until 1924, other than the Chinese Exclusion Act. In 1924, quotas were imposed that favored Northern & Western Europeans at the expense of Eastern & Southern Europeans. Immigrants in the 19th Century didn’t face any obstacles to coming to the US. The path to Citizenship at the time basically consisted of living in the US for 5 years & swearing an oath of allegiance. I’m not sure how many actually became Citizens during this time.
“The Irish came to this country with one thing in mind. To be American. Same with the Italians and the Germans, and the Japanese or any other immigrant group. Yes, they were so eager to become “American” that learning the language was a priority. That studying and applying the constitution was paramount in their view. "
Irish immigrants were isolated & discriminated against well through the 20th Century. Many came to the US hoping to return if things ever improved at home. The Irish did have one big advantage over other immigrant groups: they already spoke English.
Italian & German immigrants tended to live in ethnic conclaves, whether in urban neighborhoods or rural communities. The fact that there were many newspapers published in Italian & German suggests they weren’t giving up their native tongues for English as fast as you seem to think.
I don’t know of any American born Hispanics who don’t speak English & I know a lot of them. Assimilation is a two way streets. Immigrants don’t assimilate when they are isolated.
A bipartisan recognition of the problem Adrian, succinctly said. Thank you When man is the problem, man MUST be the solution Despite opposing positions, many well conveyed, the truth lies somewhere in a broad middle. What I like about Ms. Benson’s cartoon is Lady Justice, reduced as she is in stature, has removed the blindfold; not, one hopes, because she’s no longer impartial, but because now she’s going to audit programs and contracts and force an end to the waste, fraud, and abuse robbing those she serves. One hopes she starts with the relationship between lobbyists and lawmakers – imo, the worst of the abusers. Respectfully, C..
Mix a snifter of Bill Mauldin, a dash of Jeff McNelly and a very large dollop of common sense, and you begin to get an idea of Lisa Benson’s considerable talent.
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Comments (48) (Please sign in to comment)
mikefive said, 3 months ago
Budget cuts probably wouldn’t seem to be out of control if spending hadn’t gotten out of control.
Adrian Snare said, 3 months ago
NO……it is not that simple, conservatives.
The problem is man..
In his cheating, lying, stealing, being intolerant, disrespectful, greedy.
A criminal element is formed…this is expensive…
We must work on this problem in a more intelligent manner.
Clark Kent said, 3 months ago
The woman with the bag and the scales is the judge.
Ms. Ima said, 3 months ago
California, the Greece of America. Or is it Greece is the California of Europe?
Bruce4671 said, 3 months ago
From a 27 billion dollar deficit to a balanced budget. Is it true? Will it also be true that as goes CA so goes the nation?
How? By tax increase and spending cuts. go figure.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june13/brown_01-15.html
mikefive said, 3 months ago
@Bruce4671
It’s my understanding that the basis for the CA balanced budget is based on taxing the volatile year to year income of the very rich. If this is so, then the CA budget is on very treacherous ground.
Bruce4671 said, 3 months ago
@mikefive
Of course it is. TAX THE RICH!!!! The liberal war cry and CA is one liberal stronghold.
ahab
said, 3 months ago
@Bruce4671
Screw the poor and subsidize the rich!!! The conservative war cry, and Texas is one conservative stronghold.
ahab
said, 3 months ago
The rich can afford a higher tax.
NeoconMan said, 3 months ago
@ahab
^ You tax me and I’ll move my businesses to another state or country.
I’M in control here and you are over a barrel. Accept it and follow orders.
vwdualnomand said, 3 months ago
why do conservatives believe spending cuts will lead to prosperity?
Bruce4671 said, 3 months ago
@ahab
really?
http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm
California unemployment rate 9.8%
Texas unemployment rate 6.1%
Texas total state debt (3rd least) $33,299,313.000.00
http://www.mainstreet.com/slideshow/moneyinvesting/credit/debt/most-debt-ridden-states-america
California public debt (the worst state)
$615,000,000,000.00
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/state-372854-california-tax.html
Of the top ten “least” debt ridden states 8 have republican governors .. only 2 democrats
I don’t know dude looks to me like the liberals are the ones screwing the poor.
Uncle Joe said, 3 months ago
@Bruce4671
“I don’t know dude looks to me like the liberals are the ones screwing the poor.”
Democrats have a track record of being willing to fund programs to help lower income people.
The California Democrats have been terrible about fiscal responsibility, but I recall a certain Republican Governor who wasted away the chance to bring things in order.
The states with the lowest per capita debt fall into 3 categories:
States riding high energy prices, (Texas, N. Dakota)
States with small, rural populations. (Iowa, Wyoming)
States that spend little on education & services… not coincidentally these are states with the highest poverty rates. (Mississippi, Alabama)
My main point is that local economics have at least as much to do with state debts as political control.
Uncle Joe said, 3 months ago
@Bruce4671
BTW, yesterday there was a discussion about immigration where you said, “Now tell me which one of these organizations is calling for “citizenship” for those that came to the US illegally? Which one of these organizations is lobbying for “Irish” rights? "
There were no immigration laws at all until 1924, other than the Chinese Exclusion Act. In 1924, quotas were imposed that favored Northern & Western Europeans at the expense of Eastern & Southern Europeans. Immigrants in the 19th Century didn’t face any obstacles to coming to the US. The path to Citizenship at the time basically consisted of living in the US for 5 years & swearing an oath of allegiance. I’m not sure how many actually became Citizens during this time.
“The Irish came to this country with one thing in mind. To be American. Same with the Italians and the Germans, and the Japanese or any other immigrant group. Yes, they were so eager to become “American” that learning the language was a priority. That studying and applying the constitution was paramount in their view. "
Irish immigrants were isolated & discriminated against well through the 20th Century. Many came to the US hoping to return if things ever improved at home. The Irish did have one big advantage over other immigrant groups: they already spoke English.
Italian & German immigrants tended to live in ethnic conclaves, whether in urban neighborhoods or rural communities. The fact that there were many newspapers published in Italian & German suggests they weren’t giving up their native tongues for English as fast as you seem to think.
I don’t know of any American born Hispanics who don’t speak English & I know a lot of them. Assimilation is a two way streets. Immigrants don’t assimilate when they are isolated.
Respectful Troll said, 3 months ago
@Adrian Snare
A bipartisan recognition of the problem Adrian, succinctly said. Thank you
When man is the problem, man MUST be the solution
Despite opposing positions, many well conveyed, the truth lies somewhere in a broad middle. What I like about Ms. Benson’s cartoon is Lady Justice, reduced as she is in stature, has removed the blindfold; not, one hopes, because she’s no longer impartial, but because now she’s going to audit programs and contracts and force an end to the waste, fraud, and abuse robbing those she serves. One hopes she starts with the relationship between lobbyists and lawmakers – imo, the worst of the abusers.
Respectfully,
C..