Lisa Benson by Lisa Benson

Lisa Benson

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  1. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    The nightmare continues. On a daily basis there are reports on “reconfiguration” of ObamaCare to accommodate the unions or other groups that want special accommodation or exemption. Add to that almost no one clearly understands how this is going to work with their exchanges and the states are constantly bailing on setting up their exchanges and passing it back to the government. This has all the earmarks of a huge government kluge. Maybe cluster f**k would be a more appropriate term.
    Business is still completely on hold because they have no clue how this is going to affect them and requests for information from the government on procedural matters is almost non-existent. The scary part is they haven’t even gotten close to the implementation part and with such a complex system to deal with they are running out of time. Functionality is supposed to be in 11 months?

  2. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, over 3 years ago

    Good job Democrats…….
    As said before, make your 2014 dr appointments now because pretty soon those offices are going to be PACKED with people who never bothered buying health insurance until now when we will pay much of it for them.
    And don’t tell me they couldn’t get it before. My nephew worked at McDonalds during college and had health insurance. If you’re a senior citizen, you already have Medicare and if your disabled or just poor you have Medicaid.

  3. Rockngolfer

    Rockngolfer said, over 3 years ago

    8% of Americans identify with the tea party.
    Hillary Clinton has a 67% approval rating.
    Anyway, I canceled my health insurance when it went up again and I found out a guy who I used to work with, who is raising two grandkids, goes to the free clinic. I was subsidizing people like him.

  4. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago

    I just love it when a self professed “tyrant” admits he likes “his” women tough. I bet you just LOVE Merkel with all her “austerity” and she is one tough lady.

    It is so easy to sit in judgement from a box seat over 3900 miles away. (almost 6400 KM from NYC to Berlin)

    Yep your attitude dude, put CEO"s “against the wall”, Really? Just do away with HMO’s.

    Health care is a HUGH part of the economy. It employes millions of people. (about 21 million) and it is completely reasonable to expect that every one of those workers will be on track to be “government” workers with all the benefits implied in 2014.

    The IRS has said that by 2016 the “expected” price of health care for a family of four would be 20K a year under the AHCA. That is over 1600 dollars a month. So if the “breadwinner” of the family made 25 bucks an hour it would take almost 2 weeks to pay for health care (based on a 40 hr wk).

    So yeah, just do away with 21 million more jobs in the private sector, put them all on the government payroll, load them up with sick days, vacation days, personal time and a pension plan that will give them a six figure retirement and let it all be paid for with “taxes”.


    But wait. Why should health care cost anything? Why would you charge someone for health care? Isn’t it a “right”?

  5. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 3 years ago


    Say Bruce, could you turn that into some kind of coherent statement? Even perhaps an argument?

  6. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    " after 2016 President Clinton 45 might streamline the system a bit. Oh, sorry, your head just exploded. Better get used to it:"

    Ooooooh Morty, I always love it when you talk stupid!!!!! Do you feel better, now I made an insulting remark so you’ll feel satiated that you offended me? The only thing that gets my head to explosive levels is having to put up with inane comments like yours from people that don’t live here and have no vested interest in our system. For your limited understanding of English I will explain that implementation implies that there is an existent, established, and defined system to be put in place, especially with an enormous government entitlement program such as this one. As I said in my earlier post, they are still making it up as they go along.
    Further to your impertinent comment, they have been implementing parts of the system for a couple of years now, but they are just the more simple qualification rules to affect existing insurance plans, such as keeping children till 26 on parents insurance and rules against preexisting conditions exclusions. As expected by all except the government, insurance policies have been rising substantially in the last 2 years and pricing many out of the market. So to calm your vicious state of mind, I posted a couple of links for you to read and hopefully further your understanding of what I originally wrote. And for the umpteenth time, I’m not a republican, I’m a Libertarian and I included a link for that for your perusal.

    • In closing Morty, walk softly and watch your back, most tyrants lives end badly, often at the hands of a firing squad themselves…

      Definition of IMPLEMENT
      : carry out, accomplish; especially : to give practical effect to and ensure of actual fulfillment by concrete measures.
      You can look up the Libertarian view on healthcare if you’re so inclined.

  7. cwsprague

    cwsprague said, over 3 years ago

    More like illegal immigrants…

  8. Zuhlamon

    Zuhlamon GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    It doesn’t work that way. You have to be practically indigent to qualify for Med-Cal… and I was quoted an individual insurance policy rate of $1200 / month. Decision between food, shelter, and insurance, guess which one is not the pick of the litter?
    Why can’t the unemployed and self-employed buy into Medicare? Hell, if you pay your way, it’s not a burden on anybody. As usual, the righties want to subsidize the losses and privatize the gains.

  9. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, over 3 years ago


    What do you not understand?


    Dude, the first part was a sarcastic remark to a German national touting free stuff from government (just my opinion) and saying how he loves “tough” female politicians.

    He must. His country? Led by none other than Angela Dorothea Merkel the “austerity” queen.

    So then, he suggests that HIS course of action would be to do away with HMO’s and put the CEO’s against a sunny wall implying a firing squad which he may at this time deny (morty?)

    I said yeah let’s do that. 21 million workers in the health care industry. Let’s “do away” with the entire ball of wax and just let the government take over. (really, do it) with the current environment that would mean 21 million more union government workers with all the union perks supported by the dwindling tax base.

    I thought the figment that produced in my picture orientated mind was funny. So hahahahaha.

    THEN back to sarcasm. But with some questions that really need answers. Should health care be a “right”? If it is, why do we charge for it (or better why is it part of the private capitalistic economy at all)? Should we then just guarantee every citizen a certain level of support and anything extra would be their concern? What would that level be? (see how my mind works?)

    Sorry, there are at least 5 different logic streams going on at any given time so sometime what I say – while making perfect sense to me – my just be noise to others. I do my best to isolate individual subjects but I am not always successful.

  10. Kylie2112

    Kylie2112 said, over 3 years ago

    Of course, it’s not like Obama’s plan isn’t identical to what the Republicans wanted in the mid-90s when they rejected Universal Health Care or anything.

  11. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    My mom is on Medicaid in Florida, at age 100. Her only income is SS. Her supplemental health plan is $266 per month, the rest home gets the rest, all but $35/month for her “personal use”. Now, exactly what can you buy for $35 per month when considering clothing and other personal items?

    BTW: federal retirement IS “rather generous”, but paid for in years of lower salary to make those pension payments, but nowhere near “six figures” for either the “average” or “median” federal employee. While federal health plans, due to the large number of participants, for their working careers, healthy or sick, is relatively inexpensive compared to individual private plans, which is exactly why a “single payer” system, even with private providers, would be far cheaper than the current system. It could also be used to control costs, if the “pro-business” folks (read Republicans) would do away with such restrictions as NON negotiation on drug prices.

  12. Jase99

    Jase99 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    “…pretty soon those offices are going to be PACKED

    I have doctors that are booked 3-4 months ahead of time NOW. Wait times at my local clinic have been terrible since at least the Reagan Administration. Explain to me how the so called Obamacare is to blame for a problem that has existed decades before Obama was sworn into office.

  13. indieme

    indieme GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    We have a system of extortion by insurance companies that would make the Mafia seem like Boy Scouts. Talk about “Pay or Die”! And now Obama is giving even more money to those blood suckers with the ACA.

  14. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 3 years ago


    That’s helpful — thanks for the clarification. I’ll ignore your sarcasm directed at Morty and get to the point about health care workers. What point are you trying to make here? I wasn’t aware that anyone was suggesting that all 2.1 million health care workers should become government employees — what have I missed? Even in the semi-socialized Canadian system, most health care workers are not government employees. Doctors are by and large self-employed. My family doctor has turned herself into a corporation — probably for some legal/tax reason I don’t know about. But she certainly doesn’t work for the government, nor do the nurses in her practice. I’m not sure about hospital employees, however. Anyway, I think you may be making up a scarecrow to frighten people — maybe to frighten yourself — unnecessarily. My point — it’s perfectly possible to have a good health insurance system that doesn’t turn all health care workers into government employees.

  15. Rockngolfer

    Rockngolfer said, over 3 years ago


    My health insurance that I just canceled was $340 a month for a $5,000 deductible policy. I have tried to confirm that some of that $340 was subsidizing people who had no insurance, but it is hard to find data supporting that idea.

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