Lisa Benson by Lisa Benson

Lisa Benson

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  1. exoticdoc2

    exoticdoc2 said, almost 4 years ago

    Libs have never heeded the lesson against killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

  2. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, almost 4 years ago

    Perhaps it has to do with the fact that we are purposefully being frightened. I have heard my taxes will go up $2000, no $4000, no $8000. I will lose my job. I will have no health insurance. It’s the end of the world as we know it. People are told by authority figures to be afraid, and it works. It’s what has held organized religion together for centuries, and I give credit where credit is due: Karl Rove should be thanked for applying fear of the bogeyman to the Republican party, and its communications wing, Fox News.

    I joined this forum after observing for a while. I see posts where people make reasoned points, quote reliable statistics, and make an understandable point.

    And then there are the two quotes above. To exoticdoc2, I will point out that there are many geese that can lay golden eggs. Are we talking about the “job creators” whose taxes might go up? Are we talking about the working poor and true small businesses, which both parties talk as though they are the backbone of our economy, but which both have to suffer at the whim of ideologues who have no desire to compromise or find common ground? Are we talking about whole foods, vs. genetically engineered food substitutes?

    Regardless, only “libs” haven’t learned any lessons. And then there’s Ima: ’nuff said.

    Regardless of how we got here as a country and as a society, we are here, and I hope it won’t start an argument to note that “here” is not a good place to be. It is time for our society to grow up, face its responsibilities, and work towards remediating our problems.

    Calling people names and assuming that everyone who thinks differently is totally wrong will never accomplish what needs to be done. Ideological purity and removing the possibility of modification is a recipe for disaster, revolution, and/or anarchy. We’re better than that, and we’d better realize it soon enough.

    I view this forum as a microcosm of America, and what I see here pains me, and makes me very depressed. I see people refusing to accept facts, being much more ugly than necessary, and resorting to placing blame.

    This is what Congress has been doing for years. Look how well that’s turned out.

    I think we need to come to grips with the fact that we are all Americans, and our problems did not come from one event, one person, one political party. It’s taken a lot of people a lot of hard work to screw this thing up, and it’s going to take a lot of good work to make it better. I don’t see anyone having that resolve, and it makes me wonder if we will come to our senses before we ruin ourselves in the name of saving ourselves.

    Life, especially these days, is tough enough. I had hoped to see some willingness to cooperate among people who at least have the intelligence to pay attention to these issues, and the desire to make this a better society, would be willing to see things as shades of grey, rather than either/or. If people who actually research these conditions refuse to consider points which are not the ones they were born/raised with, I can’t imagine what the people whose only exposure to the real world is People Magazine and “Entertainment Tonight” will lead us.

    I think I need a vacation from the cacophony. I may be back (I can hear some of you groaning), but right now this constant ranting, insistence on ignoring facts, and undeserved ugliness makes me too depressed.

    It is my New Year’s wish that people everywhere will realize that we never get everything that we want, and that sometimes the greater good trumps what I think I should have, and that we will see our petulant adolescent society turn into the world leader we seem to believe we are.

  3. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    @I Play One On TV

    Yes Doc, trying to be the voice of reason can be frustrating and discouraging. Talking to a friend tonight, that was what I expressed, that I am discouraged that there is seemingly no middle ground, no attempt at compromise, just dug in hard line partisan rhetoric. Worse yet it is so rude and insulting, which I guess some here ignore and some even enjoy the raucous arguing. Unfortunately I think it is getting worse, since for many “familiarity breeds contempt” and there is not even an attempt at civility. What’s truly pathetic is something you pointed out in another posting: it’s the same dialog between the same people and nothing is every resolved, just carried over to another day. Peace and love for you and yours in the New Year…

  4. JoanHelen

    JoanHelen said, almost 4 years ago

    @I Play One On TV

    An excellent comment; I have had similar thoughts as an observer from a different country in the southern hemisphere. I also see these comments as a microcosm of America; I read the comments every day and observe the same patterns that you mentioned. Something else that I have noticed is that although freedom of speech is often mentioned there are many people who do not uphold that right to other readers and visitors to the website.

  5. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, almost 4 years ago


    Another sad commentary: “We all have freedom of speech, but only money talks.” - Stephen Colbert

  6. TheFinalSolution

    TheFinalSolution said, almost 4 years ago

    “Ima, every time you try to discuss taxes, it comes out stupid. You really need to stick to pure trolling.”

    That’s rich coming from someone whose self-image is “braindead”!

  7. Ottodesu

    Ottodesu said, almost 4 years ago

    @I Play One On TV

    Brilliant comment.
    I often introduce myself as a “Foreigner”, as I am not of your country and feel like I my opinion has only limited viability. (BTW, my own country is very democratic and hasn’t had a recession in about two decades.)
    However, I love the USA and comment on these boards not to denigrate but to stimulate and help provide perspective.
    It seems way too obvious that very few who comment here really have any idea how the USA is supposed to work (yes, I am looking at you, Mr Ima), and have short memories of how a bit more than a decade ago you had a budget surplus.
    Folks, your economy has gone into a toilet that is on the edge of cliff that is crumbling.
    This is possibly the most serious crisis your country has ever faced.
    Your wonderful hard-won and proud world standing is fast corroding and decreasing in relevance.
    Whatever your perceptions of political ideologies, let your Congresspeople know that you resent the way your country is being jerked around, he/she is personally responsible, and the fact that the World is watching right now, deciding who is the smart kid on the block.

  8. Justice22

    Justice22 said, almost 4 years ago


    Thanks for your comment. Have a great New Year.

  9. Rockngolfer

    Rockngolfer said, almost 4 years ago

    People who receive unemployment add more dollars to the economy than rich people who take their money to the Cayman Islands, Bermuda, and Swiss bank accounts.

  10. narrowminded

    narrowminded said, almost 4 years ago


    Illogical. All Govn. supplied money is taken from the economy. Govn. creates nothing, it simply buys things with money others have produced.
    Govn. is a drain on the economy.
    Why is it so hard for people to understand this?

  11. Justice22

    Justice22 said, almost 4 years ago

    “They will stash it away in more investments, off shore or here, but neither are a stimulus.”

    That is true. For those who say their investments will create new jobs, it is untrue. The investments are made in established companies, not in new manufacturing which is what we need.

    We have become a nation of consumers instead of creators.

  12. lonecat

    lonecat said, almost 4 years ago

    I find all the name calling that goes on here very sad. I appeal to those on the liberal/left side, I know that some posters can be very annoying, but please don’t descend to insults. If you can’t make a polite response, then just don’t respond at all. Several of the worst posters just feed off the responses they get — so calling them names just encourages them. Make a positive point, then move on.

  13. lonecat

    lonecat said, almost 4 years ago

    @I Play One On TV

    I hope you do return. Your posts have been a pleasure to read. Have a good vacation. And a good New Year.

  14. mikefive

    mikefive said, almost 4 years ago

    “The gov’t got us out of the 1st depression,…..”

    The government also extended the effects of the depression by instituting tax increases and spending cuts in 1937. It seems we learn nothing from history. The Democrats are pushing tax increases and the Republicans are pushing spending cuts. Either these political parties are ignorant of history or are ignoring it and are depending on the public’s ignorance of the depression to claim that only their viewpoint is viable. Either one of these scenarios is deplorable since one indicates that the government is willing to act while having a grievous lack of knowledge of the past and the other indicates a reprehensible clinging to political stratagem.

    I look for the Democrats generally to be unmovable on the obtaining tax increases and the Republicans generally to be unmoving on obtaining spending cuts. They each can get their wish by maintaining their current positions and allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire. The Democrats can then blame the spending cuts on the Republicans and the Republicans can then blame the Democrats for the tax increase. In the meantime, businesses can’t even do anything as simple as entering new tax tables for withholding of employee income tax. Well….we got what we voted for.

  15. lonecat

    lonecat said, almost 4 years ago

    One positive move might be for all of us to recognize that we all want the best for the country, even if we have different views of what the best is and how to get there. I know that that the people who want to cut taxes and spending sincerely believe that’s best for the country. I sincerely believe it’s best for the country to raise the rates a little on the wealthy. I’m actually okay about cutting spending in principle, but I need to see specific proposals — and I don’t think the debt is a short-term crisis, I think it’s a long term problem. Now I may be wrong, but I’m sincere. I was watching some dueling economists on the TV last night and I was struck by their inability to agree about very basic questions — such as the economic consequences of a modest tax hike on the wealthy. If the supposed experts can’t agree, then it’s too much to expect that those of us posting here have God’s answer to the question. I am happy to grant your sincerity, and I hope that others will grant mine.

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