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@ScottPM
The deficit for 2009 (which really was the the last year of the GW Bush administrations budgets) was $1,400 billion. The projected budget (I would imagine without the fiscal cliff affecting things) is now at $920 billion. That is a difference of just about $500 billion.If the economy continues to improve at its current rate, and we get out of Afghanistan when promised, the budget deficits should continue to decrease at the same rate, leaving the last year of President Obama’s budget deficits at about $400 billion, far less than the average of the GW Bush administration.
And that is the current math of budget deficits, sorry about that!!
And if the #$%ing “Personal Responsibility” conservatives would just get off their butts and take personal responsibility for their health care by supporting the Capitalistic Health Care Economy by BUYING some Health Care Insurance from a Private Company, instead of getting their FREE liberal-tax-payer-funded health care at the Emergency Room, then there wouldn’t BE that big Romneycare ‘Tax’ increase. (single-payer would still be better.)
Notice that Bush’s number are rising, while Obama’s number are projected to decrease. Bush’s deficits did not include his two wars. Obama’s numbers include the costs of the wars from the entire period.
ReFlex-76 said, about 7 hours ago Obamacare’s savings ($1 trillion in debt reduction over ten years) will keep us from falling off the dreaded “fiscal cliff.” A Good Cartoon…..(end quote) - Obamacare won’t have any REALSAVINGS….but it does have a lot of new and increased TAXES and it will cause medical providers to opt out and then Americans won’t be getting “care” quickly and quality care will be lower. - the Obama “budget plan” is a huge SCAM, the usual D.C. phony “cuts in spending” (cuts only in the increased spending) hyped by Obama above the usual phony “baseline” scheme. see www.online.wsj.com article “The Budget Baseline Con” 12/4/12
for et2008……why does he have to be a racist to talk figures??? I guess if you’re an idiot you can call anyone who disagrees with you a racist……a true Obamaian….
What comforts me after reading all this insane, ranting lunacies is the knowledge that even if Obamacare is a resounding success, if the country saves tons of money, and tens of thousands of people get healthy, the Republicans will still claim it was a failure.
If people feel that Obamacare is bad, it can be modified. It does not have to work just the way it was originally written. Facta, non verba: deeds, not words. You want to make a better system, march up to the microphone and get to work. It does no one any good to say something will not work and sit back and hope you are right, regardless of consequences.
Imagine if all this belly aching had gone on before the Gemini program got started. The Russians would have had the first man to walk on the moon, and we’d have lost the Cold War.
IPlay One on TV…..we aren’t “sitting back and hoping it doesn’t work”….we are hoping the various States lawsuits and the Freedom of Religion lawsuits against the mandates do win in our courts, to stop the dismantling of the best private medical care system on earth that attracts medical students and practitioners from around the world….doomed under Ocare. How do you “modify” a federal takeover of an entire industry??? - Canuck, here is another of my “insane, ranting lunacies”….hack away!!!
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Comments (31) (Please sign in to comment)
exoticdoc2 said, 5 months ago
Sadly, that’s understating the disasters the Obamanation desires.
4my10851cs said, 5 months ago
O wants us off the cliff
ReFlex-76
said, 5 months ago
Obamacare’s savings ($1 trillion in debt reduction over ten years) will keep us from falling off the dreaded “fiscal cliff.” A Good Cartoon.
Robert Landers said, 5 months ago
@ScottPM The deficit for 2009 (which really was the the last year of the GW Bush administrations budgets) was $1,400 billion. The projected budget (I would imagine without the fiscal cliff affecting things) is now at $920 billion. That is a difference of just about $500 billion.If the economy continues to improve at its current rate, and we get out of Afghanistan when promised, the budget deficits should continue to decrease at the same rate, leaving the last year of President Obama’s budget deficits at about $400 billion, far less than the average of the GW Bush administration.
And that is the current math of budget deficits, sorry about that!!
narrowminded said, 5 months ago
@Robert Landers
Here are the ratios of deficit to GDP for the past five presidents:
Ronald Reagan
1981-88 4.2 %
1982-89 4.2
Average 4.2
George H. W. Bush
1989-92 4.0
1990-93 4.3
Average 4.2
Bill Clinton
1993-2000 0.8
1994-2001 0.1
Average 0.5
George W. Bush
2001-08 2.0
2002-09 3.4
Average 2.7
Barack Obama
2009-12* 9.1
2010-12 8.7
Average 8.9
*fiscal 2012 ends Sept. 30, 2012, so this figure is estimated
Ms. Ima said, 5 months ago
@Robert Landers
Figures lie and liars figure.
NebulousRikulau
said, 5 months ago
And if the #$%ing “Personal Responsibility” conservatives would just get off their butts and take personal responsibility for their health care by supporting the Capitalistic Health Care Economy by BUYING some Health Care Insurance from a Private Company, instead of getting their FREE liberal-tax-payer-funded health care at the Emergency Room, then there wouldn’t BE that big Romneycare ‘Tax’ increase.
(single-payer would still be better.)
ossiningaling said, 5 months ago
@narrowminded
Notice that Bush’s number are rising, while Obama’s number are projected to decrease. Bush’s deficits did not include his two wars. Obama’s numbers include the costs of the wars from the entire period.
disgustedtaxpayer said, 5 months ago
ReFlex-76 said, about 7 hours ago
Obamacare’s savings ($1 trillion in debt reduction over ten years) will keep us from falling off the dreaded “fiscal cliff.” A Good Cartoon…..(end quote)
-
Obamacare won’t have any REAL SAVINGS….but it does have a lot of new and increased TAXES and it will cause medical providers to opt out and then Americans won’t be getting “care” quickly and quality care will be lower.
-
the Obama “budget plan” is a huge SCAM, the usual D.C. phony “cuts in spending” (cuts only in the increased spending) hyped by Obama above the usual phony “baseline” scheme.
see www.online.wsj.com
article “The Budget Baseline Con” 12/4/12
chiperdean70 said, 5 months ago
for et2008……why does he have to be a racist to talk figures??? I guess if you’re an idiot you can call anyone who
disagrees with you a racist……a true Obamaian….
coraryan
said, 5 months ago
@ReFlex-76
WHAT savings? Are you insane?
DrCanuck said, 5 months ago
@disgustedtaxpayer
What comforts me after reading all this insane, ranting lunacies is the knowledge that even if Obamacare is a resounding success, if the country saves tons of money, and tens of thousands of people get healthy, the Republicans will still claim it was a failure.
I Play One On TV said, 5 months ago
If people feel that Obamacare is bad, it can be modified. It does not have to work just the way it was originally written. Facta, non verba: deeds, not words. You want to make a better system, march up to the microphone and get to work. It does no one any good to say something will not work and sit back and hope you are right, regardless of consequences.
ahab
said, 5 months ago
@I Play One On TV
Imagine if all this belly aching had gone on before the Gemini program got started. The Russians would have had the first man to walk on the moon, and we’d have lost the Cold War.
disgustedtaxpayer said, 5 months ago
IPlay One on TV…..we aren’t “sitting back and hoping it doesn’t work”….we are hoping the various States lawsuits and the Freedom of Religion lawsuits against the mandates do win in our courts, to stop the dismantling of the best private medical care system on earth that attracts medical students and practitioners from around the world….doomed under Ocare.
How do you “modify” a federal takeover of an entire industry???
-
Canuck, here is another of my “insane, ranting lunacies”….hack away!!!