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It was the same in Viet Nam. It has something to do with invading countries that don’t want your “help”. Afghanistan and Iraq were both much clearer “transgressions” than even Viet Nam.
At least in Vietnam, we didn’t have to send supplies through an ‘ally’ that was aiding and informing our opponents the way members of the Pakistani security and political system is in Afghanistan. Our exit will be the end of schools for girls, improved health care, and many other very good things. It will also bring sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, and neighbors home. Had Bush finished the war in Afghanistan, that is to say, had he killed Bin Laden and crippled Al Qayadah in Afghanistan, PRIOR to invading Iraq, the situation may not have been better for them, but we would have lost fewer lives, killed fewer civilians by accident, and spent billions less. We might have even kept that bump of sympathy and support the world gave us after 9/11. Bring our people home, and if possible, some of the civilians who have the most to lose, like lives, when we leave. Maybe even that school for orphan girls Brian Williams visited, so the girls can keep going to school and playing soccer without being shot. Sadly, C.
A 6% Christian minority was put into power by the US following the injunction of the Gospels to spread the Word. Even though the 6% minority was corrupt and incompetent, the US was still doing the right thing by supporting Christians against godless Commies (in a country where almost everyone would have preferred Buddhists, but none of the three Great Powers offered the Vietnamese that option—the Commies because they were evil, and the US because we are Good).
The devices should be depicted as mines rather than Nutty-Yahoo/Acme-Coyote bombs. All our troops would need to do would be to retire to a safe distance & wait for the fuses to burn down & explode and then simply walk out.
@ScottPM
I’m inclined to agree with you. We should also have made arrangements to “buy” their “cash crop” for medical supplies in America. This would have at least created an economic dependence. The “blood of patriots” may water the tree of liberty etc, etc. But money secures it in heavy weather.
Santana’s warning about history puts ’Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan in perspective, going back to the 19th century, and our failure to recognize what European empires discovered. Britain and France learned in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa, that empire is a costly, bad, idea. America is still pursuing the concept, with a heavier, false, does of “benevolence”.
My experiences were decades ago. My son’s experiences (now disabled retired military) in most of our current “hot spots”, is in TODAY’S news.
It’s also notable that in ‘Nam, we DID pick a “Christian” government to rule over BUDDHISTS, not “Communists” or “atheists”. The scripture citations on our troops rifle scopes. the evangelicals going through Afghanistan passing out bibles in Arabic. There IS a subtending text to this story that rarely gets in the press, about the CRUSADE being waged in the minds of many Americans, not against “the Godless”, but rather those who worship the SAMEGOD, but from a different book, that is still based on the same Old Testament teachings, and laws. The laws in the Quran ARE based on the laws in Leviticus, but yes, sometimes taken a tad too seriously for “western tastes”. But, we might want to look at Rabbinical Law, and THEIR “radicals” interpretation as well, before getting to “bent” about “Sharia”. Hellfire and brimstone evangelicals aren’t any better, either.
dtroutma, interesting rant to rile up the mindless, but little factual basis. By the way, you do realize that they don’t speak Arabic in Afghanistan, don’t you? In fact, they’re not Arabs at all…. but don’t let that get in the way of a good anti-Christian rant.
Mix a snifter of Bill Mauldin, a dash of Jeff McNelly and a very large dollop of common sense, and you begin to get an idea of Lisa Benson’s considerable talent.
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dtroutma
said, 8 months ago
It was the same in Viet Nam. It has something to do with invading countries that don’t want your “help”. Afghanistan and Iraq were both much clearer “transgressions” than even Viet Nam.
churchillwasright said, 8 months ago
@dtroutma
I can see you you were against Iraq (I don’t agree with it, but I can see it.)
But Afghanistan is the JUST war, according to Obama.
Does this mean you"ll be writing in Ron Paul next month? He can use your support.
BTW, the VA is doing wonderful things with psychoactive drugs to help with your constant Nam flashbacks.
capnLaz
said, 8 months ago
Learn from the past or you’ll repeat it!
Michael wme said, 8 months ago
Thank you, Ms Benson, for a non-partisan cartoon. It’s a clever depiction of a situation with which everyone should be able to agree.
Respectful Troll said, 8 months ago
At least in Vietnam, we didn’t have to send supplies through an ‘ally’ that was aiding and informing our opponents the way members of the Pakistani security and political system is in Afghanistan. Our exit will be the end of schools for girls, improved health care, and many other very good things. It will also bring sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, and neighbors home. Had Bush finished the war in Afghanistan, that is to say, had he killed Bin Laden and crippled Al Qayadah in Afghanistan, PRIOR to invading Iraq, the situation may not have been better for them, but we would have lost fewer lives, killed fewer civilians by accident, and spent billions less. We might have even kept that bump of sympathy and support the world gave us after 9/11.
Bring our people home, and if possible, some of the civilians who have the most to lose, like lives, when we leave. Maybe even that school for orphan girls Brian Williams visited, so the girls can keep going to school and playing soccer without being shot.
Sadly,
C.
Michael wme said, 8 months ago
@dtroutma
A 6% Christian minority was put into power by the US following the injunction of the Gospels to spread the Word. Even though the 6% minority was corrupt and incompetent, the US was still doing the right thing by supporting Christians against godless Commies (in a country where almost everyone would have preferred Buddhists, but none of the three Great Powers offered the Vietnamese that option—the Commies because they were evil, and the US because we are Good).
greyolddave said, 8 months ago
No Exit
russell5419 said, 8 months ago
Bring our boys home now !!!
Krazy Ig Katz said, 8 months ago
The devices should be depicted as mines rather than Nutty-Yahoo/Acme-Coyote bombs. All our troops would need to do would be to retire to a safe distance & wait for the fuses to burn down & explode and then simply walk out.
Visual malapropism.
denis1112 said, 8 months ago
@dtroutma
It has something to do with Islam.Their book tells them to kill infidels.They been doing it for 1400 years.
Alc7
said, 8 months ago
@ScottPM I’m inclined to agree with you. We should also have made arrangements to “buy” their “cash crop” for medical supplies in America. This would have at least created an economic dependence. The “blood of patriots” may water the tree of liberty etc, etc. But money secures it in heavy weather.
Dredpiraterobt$ said, 8 months ago
The Afghanis got nukes?
.
When did that happen?
.
We can’t leave there if they have nukes!
.
Ms Benson, cite source please!
dtroutma
said, 8 months ago
Santana’s warning about history puts ’Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan in perspective, going back to the 19th century, and our failure to recognize what European empires discovered. Britain and France learned in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa, that empire is a costly, bad, idea. America is still pursuing the concept, with a heavier, false, does of “benevolence”.
My experiences were decades ago. My son’s experiences (now disabled retired military) in most of our current “hot spots”, is in TODAY’S news.
It’s also notable that in ‘Nam, we DID pick a “Christian” government to rule over BUDDHISTS, not “Communists” or “atheists”. The scripture citations on our troops rifle scopes. the evangelicals going through Afghanistan passing out bibles in Arabic. There IS a subtending text to this story that rarely gets in the press, about the CRUSADE being waged in the minds of many Americans, not against “the Godless”, but rather those who worship the SAME GOD, but from a different book, that is still based on the same Old Testament teachings, and laws. The laws in the Quran ARE based on the laws in Leviticus, but yes, sometimes taken a tad too seriously for “western tastes”. But, we might want to look at Rabbinical Law, and THEIR “radicals” interpretation as well, before getting to “bent” about “Sharia”. Hellfire and brimstone evangelicals aren’t any better, either.
DavidGBA said, 8 months ago
Fuses still long, get them rolling downhill.
Anweir88 said, 8 months ago
dtroutma, interesting rant to rile up the mindless, but little factual basis. By the way, you do realize that they don’t speak Arabic in Afghanistan, don’t you? In fact, they’re not Arabs at all…. but don’t let that get in the way of a good anti-Christian rant.