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??? Lisa, what is this? They’re buried in anthills, but who are the ants? Not the media. Not the politicians. Not the People. Not the Mexicans. You need to explain this one to me – it’s over my head.
“The Republicants are going to regret this political ploy to embarrass the AG.” -—————————————————————- That helps me (a little) in my effort to understand this cartoon. But I seriously doubt there are that many individual ants involved in trying to get to the truth of the matter, and I really believe that it should be a bipartisan endeavor to punish those responsible in order to make certain that something like this never happens again. Had Congress pursued the Iran-Contra debacle, this “Fast and Furious” fiasco would not have happened. (Or am I "pie-in-the-sky dreaming?) At any rate, this will probably turn out to be “Hiss and Fizzle” because nobody will be held accountable.
Fast & Furious has been a scandal since the 2010 murder of Border Agent Terry….(armed by 2009 order of Homeland Security sec’y with blanks and bean bags and murdered by drug criminals fully armed with live ammo)….brought out the ATF whistleblowers. - I doubt Obama tried executive privilege (intended for U.S. president and White House staff….not cabinet agencies and certainly not for 18 month investigations)…to protect himself..! - I hope the House GOP maintains a backbone and fights the abusive use of executive privilege into the courts….in the meantime, Obama should order the AG to turn over every document required by the Oversight Committee. - p.s. Lisa shows how both Obama and (with)Holder have DUGTHEMSELVESINTOTHEBORDER DESERT…. - pps. Fast & Furious did not begin until Obama was Prez in 2009….Holder retracted his lie that claimed F&F was a “Bush administration program”…..gun programs before 2009 were nothing like Fast & Furious….and is there proof it was truly stopped????
Yes, under Bush the program went bad, and no one was prosecuted. Under Holder, several people who biffed were fired, prosecuted, or reprimanded. Which I guess is why the Republicans are letting Michael Mukasey, who started the program, off the hook without even asking him any questions, and only going after the guy who actually stopped the program. It’s a political witch hunt.
@Arodney….the pre-2009 program was different….the ATF tracked guns and ARRESTED the criminals…..a DIFFERENT program with a DIFFERENT name….it is the 2009 “FAST & FURIOUS program” that walked 2,000 plus assault weapons over the border to the drug cartels…..being investigated since Jan. 2011. Mukasey would have no answers for the investigators….he had nothing to do with F & F.
Um no, it wasn’t. Under Operation Wide Receiver (under the Bush Administration), most of the 450 guns were lost. no arrests or indictments were made. After Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver in September 2009 and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years after Wide Receiver was ended. In 2007, a smaller operation that involved 200 guns lost a dozen of them in Mexico. The review of these failures led to a meeting in October 2009, but not to the end of the ATF’s tactic of “gunwalking” (which was resisted by the ATF).
There are a number of possible explanations for operation ‘Fast and furious’, however the fact that it was identical to operation ‘Wide Receiver’ (during the Bush administration), run by the same Special Agent (William Newell), and suffered the same problems suggests the hearings are nothing more than a massive effort by the GOP to discredit Holder.
Of course, Lisa doesn’t know all that, she gets her news from Faux.
@eryx On the evening of December 14, 2010, U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry and others were patrolling Peck Canyon, Santa Cruz County, Arizona, 11 miles from the Mexican border. The group came across five suspected illegal immigrants. When they fired non-lethal beanbag guns, the suspects responded with their own weapons, leading to a firefight. Agent Terry was shot and killed; four of the suspectswere arrested and two AK-pattern rifles were found nearby. The rifles were traced to Fast and Furious within hours of the shooting, but the bullet that killed Terry was too badly damaged to be linked to either gun.3……(copy/paste ask.com/wikipedia quote in article ATF Gunwalking scandal) - BORDERPATROLAMERICANSFACINGARMEDCRIMINALS……………WHYAREOURAGENTSARMEDWITHNON-LETHALBEANBAGGUNS?????
Mix a snifter of Bill Mauldin, a dash of Jeff McNelly and a very large dollop of common sense, and you begin to get an idea of Lisa Benson’s considerable talent.
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Comments (39) (Please sign in to comment)
Donald Williams said, 12 months ago
???
Lisa, what is this? They’re buried in anthills, but who are the ants? Not the media. Not the politicians. Not the People. Not the Mexicans. You need to explain this one to me – it’s over my head.
DrCanuck said, 12 months ago
“Standing by my attorney general.” Haven’t seen that much faithfullness since Bush backed Gonzales.
dtroutma
said, 12 months ago
MItchell, Meese, Thornburgh, Aschroft, Gozales, yep, too much corruption to shake a stick at, but elephants stood by ’em, instead of stomping ’em!
hanmari said, 12 months ago
I think the point of this cartoon is that both are in deep trouble, and standing beside his A.G. isn’t gonna help much.
indieme
said, 12 months ago
The Republicants are going to regret this political ploy to embarrass the AG.
Donald Williams said, 12 months ago
“The Republicants are going to regret this political ploy to embarrass the AG.”
-—————————————————————-That helps me (a little) in my effort to understand this cartoon. But I seriously doubt there are that many individual ants involved in trying to get to the truth of the matter, and I really believe that it should be a bipartisan endeavor to punish those responsible in order to make certain that something like this never happens again. Had Congress pursued the Iran-Contra debacle, this “Fast and Furious” fiasco would not have happened. (Or am I "pie-in-the-sky dreaming?) At any rate, this will probably turn out to be “Hiss and Fizzle” because nobody will be held accountable.
disgustedtaxpayer said, 12 months ago
Fast & Furious has been a scandal since the 2010 murder of Border Agent Terry….(armed by 2009 order of Homeland Security sec’y with blanks and bean bags and murdered by drug criminals fully armed with live ammo)….brought out the ATF whistleblowers.
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I doubt Obama tried executive privilege (intended for U.S. president and White House staff….not cabinet agencies and certainly not for 18 month investigations)…to protect himself..!
-
I hope the House GOP maintains a backbone and fights the abusive use of executive privilege into the courts….in the meantime, Obama should order the AG to turn over every document required by the Oversight Committee.
-
p.s. Lisa shows how both Obama and (with)Holder have DUG THEMSELVES INTO THE BORDER DESERT….
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pps. Fast & Furious did not begin until Obama was Prez in 2009….Holder retracted his lie that claimed F&F was a “Bush administration program”…..gun programs before 2009 were nothing like Fast & Furious….and is there proof it was truly stopped????
pirate227 said, 12 months ago
What a terrible drawing. That doesn’t resemble Dumbya or Gonzales… since Fast & Furious started under their watch.
ARodney said, 12 months ago
Yes, under Bush the program went bad, and no one was prosecuted. Under Holder, several people who biffed were fired, prosecuted, or reprimanded. Which I guess is why the Republicans are letting Michael Mukasey, who started the program, off the hook without even asking him any questions, and only going after the guy who actually stopped the program. It’s a political witch hunt.
disgustedtaxpayer said, 12 months ago
@Arodney….the pre-2009 program was different….the ATF tracked guns and ARRESTED the criminals…..a DIFFERENT program with a DIFFERENT name….it is the 2009 “FAST & FURIOUS program” that walked 2,000 plus assault weapons over the border to the drug cartels…..being investigated since Jan. 2011. Mukasey would have no answers for the investigators….he had nothing to do with F & F.
mdavis4183
said, 12 months ago
Maybe Obama and Holder can share a cell at leavenworth.
Eryx
said, 12 months ago
@disgustedtaxpayer
Um no, it wasn’t. Under Operation Wide Receiver (under the Bush Administration), most of the 450 guns were lost. no arrests or indictments were made. After Obama took office in 2009, the DOJ reviewed Wide Receiver in September 2009 and found that guns had been allowed into the hands of suspected gun traffickers. Indictments began in 2010, over three years after Wide Receiver was ended. In 2007, a smaller operation that involved 200 guns lost a dozen of them in Mexico. The review of these failures led to a meeting in October 2009, but not to the end of the ATF’s tactic of “gunwalking” (which was resisted by the ATF).
PlainBill said, 12 months ago
There are a number of possible explanations for operation ‘Fast and furious’, however the fact that it was identical to operation ‘Wide Receiver’ (during the Bush administration), run by the same Special Agent (William Newell), and suffered the same problems suggests the hearings are nothing more than a massive effort by the GOP to discredit Holder.
Of course, Lisa doesn’t know all that, she gets her news from Faux.
disgustedtaxpayer said, 12 months ago
@eryx
On the evening of December 14, 2010, U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry and others were patrolling Peck Canyon, Santa Cruz County, Arizona, 11 miles from the Mexican border. The group came across five suspected illegal immigrants. When they fired non-lethal beanbag guns, the suspects responded with their own weapons, leading to a firefight. Agent Terry was shot and killed; four of the suspectswere arrested and two AK-pattern rifles were found nearby.
The rifles were traced to Fast and Furious within hours of the shooting,
but the bullet that killed Terry was too badly damaged to be linked to either gun.3……(copy/paste ask.com/wikipedia quote in article ATF Gunwalking scandal)
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BORDER PATROL AMERICANS FACING ARMED CRIMINALS……………WHY ARE OUR AGENTS ARMED WITH NON-LETHAL BEANBAG GUNS?????
DrCanuck said, 12 months ago
@disgustedtaxpayer
I’m not following you; what do the Fast and Furious guns have to do with the killing of Brian Terry?
As we all know, guns don’t kill people; people kill people.