Lisa Benson by Lisa Benson
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Dale Hopson
said,
5 months ago
If Obama’s 5 month presidency was a Broadway musical, the curtain just rose and we heard the overture…
These things will take TIME and even Obama has stated that!
mytinytown said, 5 months ago
Dale
Of course he stated that, this way your blind to his ignorance, “cause he said so”. He is the worst president in history, he has did what Bush did (but 5 times worse now) and you liberal/democrats are 100% ok with it. He lied about the republican support he gets, and he even lied about his father’s religion.
What more could you ask for in an idiot.
cdward said, 5 months ago
mytinytown, it’s apparent you are not familiar with our history.
Kylop said, 5 months ago
MTT- how far back do you think History goes?
rikoshayrabbit said, 5 months ago
This film is over an hour and a half. And if you spin past 15 minutes of Alex Jones screaming at Bilderbergers through his bullhorn, it is quite an impressive array of information regarding how little Obama has done, and how he has turned 180 degrees from most of his campaign promises. This is well worth watching… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrpRocaEfQE
HOWGOZIT said, 5 months ago
C’mon Dale–we are losing more and more jobs every day. Will take time? Sure and problem is Baroke is just getting started!
harleyquinn
said,
5 months ago
I will create or save 4 million…3 mill?…2.3mill..ok a Million jobs and unemployment will not reach 8% if we pass this new stimulus package.
Obama meet reality. Reality ..SLAP
But Joe we created or saved what a thousand jobs now…all in for the government.
Sore big O and those 25 police jobs you saved or created, you flew into Columbus Ohio to celebrate. Well they are gone also.
Wake up people you can not calculate “save or create.” Then compare it to the 2 million lose!
Well Joe said it had a 30% chance of failure and there will be stealing. Leading economist said if we did nothing we had a 50/50 chance to get out of it if we let the FREE MARKET take over.
One more thing I am on a roll.
You want that crop to grow?
FAIR TAX
it will allow the Free market to plant more a seeds. Right now the government takes their cut before before it is planted in the ground.
Right_On said, 5 months ago
BHO bought the magic beans with his stimulus, but no beanstalk is growing …
Do you believe in fairytales? I don’t … my severance is already in the mail.
dtroutma said, 5 months ago
The fact is that job losses due to Bush policies are declining and progress can mean just stabilizing. Liberals and Conservatives are both complaining progress isn’t fast enough. After over 25 years of disasters caused by Reagan’s policies, it will take some time to turn things around. At least Obama is looking more to stave off a WW III, than to start one to boost the military industrial complex, and a false economy.
cdward said, 5 months ago
Howgozit, just precisely how long do you think it ought to take to regain all those jobs lost during the previous administration?
believecommonsense
said,
5 months ago
Hi Howie, I’m going to assume you do not fault Pres. Obama for the recession, loss of jobs and economic crisis, since it began in the fall of 2008.
Are you faulting Obama because the recession, loss of jobs and economic crisis hasn’t been reversed since he took office Jan 2009? What exactly are you faulting him for?
TrickyPickle said, 5 months ago
Another list of I love/hate Obama comments. Any moderates out there? I’m pretty sure that the US/Global economy is not the fault of either the previous or the incumbent POTUS. I think a lot of other factors beyond the control of one man were/are at play and to blame the entire mess on Bush or Obama is probably wrong and certainly futile. Shall we not instead discuss the route to prosperity from where we currently lie?
Right_On said, 5 months ago
“Shall we not instead discuss the route to prosperity from where we currently lie?
Screw that!! Obama Sucks!!!
Seriously, POTUS does have a role in the economy. He simply determines if it will be a Supply side administration, or a Demand side administration. Which means everything …
mytinytown said, 5 months ago
http://www.afa.net/youscareme.asp
Scary and awesome letter.
Also a link to back it up!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/youscareme.asp
danielsangeo said, 5 months ago
mytinytown: I’ll boil down your linked letter to the following:
“Barack Obama, you scare me because I can’t do research. You scare me because I disagree with you politically. Oh, and you scare me because you are MULTICULTURAL!”
mytinytown said, 5 months ago
danielsangeo
You scare me because you truly think he is our savior.
Machado said, 5 months ago
Jobs?
Don’t blame me, It’s the previous administration’s fault, besides we didn’t ask for this challenges… never mind that I applied for the position in the first place…
Europe just kicked most of the Socialist failures out, 2012 can’t come soon enough to America…
dtroutma said, 5 months ago
tinyminds are scared of their shadows, and terrified by anything that might come close to being true. The bigger the lie, the better the bait to catch bottom feeders.
HOWGOZIT said, 5 months ago
He is the one that said he is creating and saving jobs; he is the one manufacturing the numbers. I am sure there should be some turnaround by know, but no, the jobless is still growing. This despite Biden saying things are much better.
HOWGOZIT said, 5 months ago
cd–your answer to everything is “the previous administration.” Pretty boring and quite petty.
danielsangeo said, 5 months ago
mytinytown: You amuse me because you think I think Obama is our savior.
HOWGOZIT: Your answer to everything is “It’s a new administration now; everything must be able to turn on a dime and nothing can ever been the previous administration’s fault ever.”
believecommonsense
said,
5 months ago
Howie, I have not heard a single economic analyst say that things should have turned around by now. Indeed they all say quite similarly that it will take real time to reverse what was almost a complete meltdown of our financial system. Some say not much will change until 2010, some say late 2009, but not a single non-partisan analyst has suggested it was ever possible to reverse our economic crisis quickly.
That’s a different issue than those who criticize Obama for over-spending and increasing deficit. Though I would point out even conservative analysts said it was necessary to intervene to prevent deep recession from becoming next great depression.
I think it’s not realistic to fault Obama for the economy doing a 180 degree turnaround quickly.
HOWGOZIT said, 5 months ago
Right back at ya daniels.
BCS–I did not say turned around by now, I said some turnaround by now. But instead jobs have been vastly decreasing and now even more so with auto dealerships closing.
CaptainColorado said, 5 months ago
An editor of Newsweek said in an interview that Obama is God.
“And they worshipped the Beast, saying, who is like unto the Beast?
- Revelation 13:4
churchillwasright said, 5 months ago
“If you took all the economists in the world and laid them end-to-end, they couldn’t reach a conclusion.” - unknown
You’re right, none of the economists said the economy would turn on a dime. (And I’ll forget, for the moment, that Obama said if we didn’t pass the stimulus post-haste, we would see unemployment at 8%, so we did and it’s now well over 8%)
I’d be curious to know: *IF* (note I gave the benefit of the doubt and saidi if) Obama’s economic policies don’t grow the economy, how long will you give it to work? 2010? 2011? Give him a second term? Even longer? Just curious– no aminosity. And please try to keep the Bush vitriol to a minimum.
danielsangeo said, 5 months ago
“(And I’ll forget, for the moment, that Obama said if we didn’t pass the stimulus post-haste, we would see unemployment at 8%, so we did and it’s now well over 8%)”
Yep, and if the Obama team had quoted more than that 8%, they would’ve been an outlier in the prediction scale and would’ve been called a fearmonger. The “8%” figure came out BEFORE the 4th quarter earnings came out and it was based upon the assumption that it would be less worse than it was.
So, yes. The Obama team was wrong. Just like everyone else. They admitted they were wrong. “[A]t the time our forecast seemed reasonable. Now, looking back, it was clearly too optimistic.” –Jared Bernstein
That doesn’t mean that the Dems were wrong to pass it, of course. If you’re sliding towards a cliff, you don’t accelerate towards it with cutting even MORE revenue. Obama miscalculated just how much damage the conservative agenda on America did. So, string him up. Tar and feather him. He got it wrong.
It’s not going to solve anything.
danielsangeo said, 5 months ago
“I’d be curious to know: *IF* (note I gave the benefit of the doubt and saidi if) Obama’s economic policies don’t grow the economy, how long will you give it to work? 2010? 2011? Give him a second term? Even longer? Just curious– no aminosity. And please try to keep the Bush vitriol to a minimum.”
I’d like to give it until at least the end of 2010 before I make any judgment. After all, Obama’s first budget doesn’t even START until October of this year. But the end of 2010 is only the start. If the economy hasn’t shown at least some signs of recovery by the end of 2010, I’ll start looking at Obama.
Deal?
Dale Hopson
said,
5 months ago
CaptainColorado states “An editor of Newsweek said in an interview that Obama is God.”
I’d rather have a magazine editor saying that than Bush starting God picked him to be president…
churchillwasright said, 5 months ago
DANIEL: No deals here. This isn’t a game show.
C’mon the rest of you Obama apologists. I’d like to hear your replyies. Remember, there are no right or wrong answers here…
believecommonsense
said,
5 months ago
Howie, then I think you would be encouraged that according to national reports, the job losses for April and May are less than they’ve been since last November, when the economy started shedding jobs at a record pace. The end of 2008 and the first 3 months of 2009, there were around 700,000 jobs lost ech month.
The new data shows about 350,000 jobs lost in May, so that’s a positive sign.
Also, what exactly would you have had the president do about GM and the other failing auto industries? This is not something Obama created and there were bailouts trying to give the companies the opportunity to restructure. So if you fault Obama for the loss of auto dealerships, what would you have had him do differently?
believecommonsense
said,
5 months ago
CaptC, please cite a source for the Newsweek editor calling Obama God.
believecommonsense
said,
5 months ago
churchill, I think daniels has it about right. When I hear the economic analysts overwhelmingly predict that the recession will last until 2010, then I expect that’ll be the case. It doesn’t achieve anything for anybody to start claiming that Obama has already failed. That’s pure nonsense! It’s only been a little over four months!
mytinytown said, 5 months ago
dtroutma
You caught it hook, line and sinker!
danielsangeo said, 5 months ago
BCS:
Evan Thomas of Newsweek said “god” in an interview with Chris Matthews when talking about Obama.
This has made the right-wing blogosphere and others that parrot what they hear from there go insane. I listened to the interview in full.
What Evan Thomas was talking about is Obama’s ability to bring people together. Thomas used “sort of God” as a grandiose metaphor (which I think went too far), a figure of speech, if you will, for Obama’s ability to bring different sides together, NOT that Thomas thought that Obama was God.
It’s all they have. Lie, deceive, distort. Evan Thomas never claimed that Obama was God. CaptainColorado is repeating the same fallacious stance of the right wing.
cdward said, 5 months ago
Howgozit said, “cd–your answer to everything is “the previous administration.” Pretty boring and quite petty.
Howgozit, two quick points. First, I did not answer anything. I was asking a serious question which was, exactly how long do you think it should take for this to turn around? Second, and please read my post carefully, it said “all these jobs lost during the previous administration.” It does not cast blame but merely states the timeline for events. I wrote it thus to point out that the massive job losses began before Obama got into office, so he could not have done anything to prevent the landslide.
As many have noted, it’s his job to clean up the mess, however, and he will be judged on how good a job he does. Which brings me to my original question: how long do you think he should be given (or anyone in his position) before a turnaround starts?
church, I think daniels has it about right. Like him(?) and BCS, I’ve read the economists saying it will take at least that long. How about you?
believecommonsense
said,
5 months ago
daniels, thanks for the info. I found the transcript and video at realclearpolitics.com
IMHO, Evans said something very stupid, and if I were one of the top dogs at Newsweek, I’d be calling him on the carpet for it. More than a poor choice of words, that quote was lazy thinking and he should have found a way to express whatever his thought was without calling him “sort of God.”
It makes me angry at Evans because the reaction is to be expected and only feeds the hateful myopia that exists from some corners.
believecommonsense
said,
5 months ago
churchill, I tried to respond to your question with both civility and reason.
Howie, i would like to know what you think obama should have done differently regarding the auto industries. And didn’t the first auto industry bailout happen under the previous administration? (i should look it up to confirm but I’m short on time right now)
churchillwasright said, 5 months ago
BCS: Yes you did, and I appreciate that. (although I’m not sure why you wrote that last post to me, as I haven’t posted anything since my question. You make it seem that I belittled your response or something).
Just as a minor point, though. I seem to remember that between the election and inauguration, the “punditry” saying that Obama had already begun his domestic economic policy making, even as they (and Obama himself) were saying that “there was only one President at a time” with regards to Russia’s incursion into Georgia/international affairs. If you add that to his time in the Senate, it may be officially four months, but is sure seems longer…
CD: “If you took all the economists in the world and laid them end-to-end, they couldn’t reach a conclusion. - unknown (I like that line so much I think I’ll use it often.)
As for when I think the recession would end, given the depth of it, I would say late 2010 also. But then again, that’s how long I thought it would take without passing the ginormous stimulus package. The economy is cyclical, and we’ll pull out of the recession eventually anyway. I just worry that the governments economic policies, coupled with the Fed printing more and more money, which will have to lead to inflation, will lengthen, rather that shorten the recovery. I also worry about what the face of capitalism, and the country itself, will look like then.
My original question was out of a curiosity to know how long Obamamanics would give him to turn the economy around, and after what point would they say his policies didn’t work (assuming they didn’t). I didn’t ask it to turn this forum into what my views are. But you did ask….
believecommonsense
said,
5 months ago
churchill, no I didn’t mean anything with my post,. I think I was rushing too much .. no offense of any kind intended
as far as “pundits,” I don’t pay them too much mind, I’m far more interested in explanations based on facts … which means reporting known FACTS and not insider speculation … right now, cable news especially devotes far too much air time insider speculation and shout fests between partisans … bleecchhhhh
CaptainColorado said, 5 months ago
believecommonsense: check out the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr4VZ8xCzOg
CaptainColorado said, 5 months ago
danielsangeo:
Imagine if someone said Bush was “sort of God”. Democrats would be all over them like ugly on ape!
believecommonsense
said,
5 months ago
Capt.C, as i wrote in my earlier post, I found the transcript and video earlier. But thanks for the link, I think. As I said, Newsweek should be calling this guy for some serious woodshedding.
danielsangeo said, 5 months ago
“Imagine if someone said Bush was “sort of God”. Democrats would be all over them like ugly on ape!”
You’re absolutely right. Bush was not “sort of God”. He was “sort of a money changer”.