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  1. SKJAM!

    SKJAM! GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    “The killing, the dying, it was all done in vain;
    Oh, Willie McBride it all happened again,
    and again and again, and again and again.”

  2. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 7 months ago

    “I wonder what people will think of this war a century from now…”


    They’re still bloody arguing about it.


    Taken from the BBC article above:


    "Mr Gove [said] that people’s understanding of the war had been overlaid by “misrepresentations” which at worst reflected “an unhappy compulsion on the part of some to denigrate virtues such as patriotism, honour and courage”.


    “The war was, of course, an unspeakable tragedy, which robbed this nation of our bravest and best,” wrote Mr Gove.“


    ”But even as we recall that loss and commemorate the bravery of those who fought, it’s important that we don’t succumb to some of the myths which have grown up about the conflict."


    He added: "The conflict has, for many, been seen through the fictional prism of dramas such as ‘Oh, What a Lovely War!’, ‘The Monocled Mutineer’ and ‘Blackadder’, as a misbegotten shambles – a series of catastrophic mistakes perpetrated by an out-of-touch elite. "


    I happen to agree with that “myth” which I have high-lighted in bold.
    Methinks someone has indeed forgotten the lessons, whatever they were again.
    But here’s another article debunking myths


    Still doesn’t make me change my mind about the bolded statement above.



    I’m in Austria at the moment, and I’m curious what Germany and Austria will be doing / commenting/celebrating/commemorating. Whereas I know of many events planned in the UK, France and, Belgium, I understand Germany has done little or nothing else apart from creating a committee that will address representing Germany attending other countries’ commeration events. I don’t see much planned here in Austria but I might be missing something because of the language barrier. Next week I travel to Osttirol, a province that was split up after WW-I, where South Tyrol became part of Italy. We often cross the border into South Tyrol for shopping or eating out. I imagine something is being planned there…?


    Meanwhile I’ve just read an article by a descendant of the assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria which “tries to excuse” Austria’s role/Austrian royalty of being part of the trigger for WW-I. He stated that the different European powers were ready to go to war; any excuse would have pushed them over the edge. Had it not been the assassination of his dukiness, it would have been another incident that would have kicked it off.
    Hmmm…excuses, excuses, excuses.

  3. mikefive

    mikefive said, 7 months ago

    Many years ago I read a book entitled “In Flanders Fields” about WW I. It’s very readable and gives an account of the conditions and politics under which the horror of WW I was fought. No other war that I’ve read about comes even close to the conditions under which the men there fought. (or the stupidity of Allied leaders).

  4. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, 7 months ago

    As one ‘expert’ historian wrote, the war was absolutely necessary. The Kaiser was threatening to impose a brutal tyranny on all of Europe and had to be stopped, and the leading German historians all agree.


    Of course, after losing WWII unconditionally, Germany was told that it had to take full responsibility for both WWI and WWII, and the Allies would hang any Germans who said otherwise, so those German history books might not be altogether accurate.

  5. Zuhlamon

    Zuhlamon said, 7 months ago

    … and I get on my knees and pray: We Won’t Get Fooled Again!
    -The Who

  6. Jase99

    Jase99 said, 7 months ago

    @CCNJ's say the sky is falling

    “Europe infighting. America had to come in and stop it twice.”

    After the second time, the US government and its contractors realized they liked it so much they decided to continue inserting themselves into the world’s conflicts, and create some new ones.

  7. mikefive

    mikefive said, 7 months ago

    @omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    " …Austria’s role/Austrian royalty of being part of the trigger for WW-

    From what I read in a diary published right after WW I The German press and authorities were beating the drum of war very loudly prior to the declaration of war. The chronicler of that diary expressed that the assassination of the archduke and his wife was finally the excuse they needed to declare war.

  8. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 7 months ago

    @mikefive

    " the assassination of the archduke and his wife was finally the excuse they needed to declare war."


    Yeah, I was taught that too, in high-school (believe it or not! But then the history taught to us at the time was very Eurocentric …).
    My trouble with the royal descendent’s tale was in trying to absolve his family’s involvement as simple pawns and victims (the archduke & his wife died afterall).

  9. omQ Release the Desaparecidos

    omQ Release the Desaparecidos said, 7 months ago

    May I add that I’ve been noticing an uptick on talk-shows and newspaper articles regarding WW-I on Austrian TV and newspapers. The Kurier had one that translates roughly as “Chain of catastrophic events”. I guess one has to be here to observe the feeling and tone of the news.

  10. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 7 months ago

    The last three humans left on the planet were a Rabbi, a Priest, and a Mullah. They were bored and decided to go night fishing. Their boat motor ran out of gas, and died.


    The Rabbi held up a match, and said, “I will shine a light and God will save us.” The Priest said, “NO! I shall hold up MY match, and God will save us.” The Mullah said , “No. You’re both wasting your time, I shall strike my match, and Allah will save us!”


    All three lit their matches, ignoring the fact the engine stopped because all the gas had leaked into the bottom of the boat. The explosion and fire lit up the whole lake.


    God in his wisdom came down from heaven with two burlap sacks. From the first, he released a female monkey, and she scampered into the woods. From the second sac, he released a male monkey, and he he went scampering in pursuit of the female.


    And so God said: "If at first you don’t succeed, try, try, again.

  11. corzak

    corzak said, 7 months ago

    The book to read on all this is Barbara Tuchman’s The Guns of August. An excellent description of the events of 1914 – perhaps the best ever.

    Turns out it that everyone at the time was belligerent. And naive. And the resulting war was horrible, and the consequent events – Revolution and more War, were more horrible still. Turns out that smart diplomacy is infinitely cheaper than blustering stupidity.

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