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“More oil seeps into the gulf naturally than a hundred oil spills.” - Assuming you’re correct (I’d need some sort of citation before believing you), what’s your point?
“More oil seeps into the gulf naturally than a hundred oil spills.” ♦ Oil does seep into the Gulf of Mexico, but not nearly in the quantity that Ima suggests. ♦ earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=20863
Truth: no one knows how much oil leaks into the oceans. All we know is. .. It does. Nature has a way of dealing with it. Volcanoes create far more greenhouse gases than man ever has or will….. Nature has a way of dealing with it. No ecosystem is pristine or unchanged, nature is in constant change, local and global. Man as the right to live and prosper. Capitalist nations have the resources to not make messes in the first place and to clean up messes when things go wrong. Socialist nations do neither, the resources don’ t exist.
@ima, @narrowminded, it constantly amazes me how you are willing to defend ADMITTED liars and crooks. Between 2007-2010 BP had 97 percent of all flagrant violations found in the refining industry by government safety inspectors. http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/06/bp-violations-and-spills/ Because natural leakages exist, this does not justify preventable oil spills. Furthermore, contrary to what you seem to believe, there is clear and evident damage from oil spills. Alaskan sea life by the shore has NEVER come back to what it was before the Valdez spilled. And I have family in the Florida Panhandle. It has some of the most beautiful sand in the world — white “flour sand.” But if you dig down anywhere now, you will find a layer of oil. This is not a natural leakage, this is a direct product of the BP spill. Quit defending criminals. Oh, and @narrowminded, your “socialist vs. capitalist” comparison is simply irrelevant if not badly mistaken. The oil industry received major exemptions from taxes from OUR government — meaning corporate welfare or socialism — and safety devices required by other nations were nixed by VP Dick Cheney. The safest oil company in the world is, in fact, half government-owned by the Scandinavians (eek! successful socialism!), and they require safety devices because they are representing ALL the people.
In Santa Barbara California, your can’t walk on the beach without bringing along some tar remover. That’s the legacy of an oil spill dating back to the 1960s
Thank you for both the reasonable and moderate post. I am sure that the ultra conservative trolls will shortly try to thrash you for it. Like cockroaches they seem to be multiplying on this particular comment board. Perhaps the authorities that run this board will eventually have to do what Fox NEWS did (one of the few times I have agreed with fox) and shut this comment section down, just as Fox did theirs. It is indeed a pity that this would punish the few moderate liberals and yes, some few moderate conservatives also, along with the extremists!!
The following dispute your assertion: ♦ www.soscalifornia.org/problem.html
Do you know… The Tar on the Santa Barbara Beaches is from Natural Oil Seeps in the Channel. To the dismay of local beach-goers, sticky globules of tar lap up … ♦ articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/07/local/la-me-oil-birds-20120307
Mar 7, 2012 … Oil seeping from the ocean floor off Santa Barbara is taking a toll on seabirds that … along the Southern California coastline coated in crude oil and tar. … die offshore or, in an act of desperation, plant themselves on the beach.
Mar 13, 2012 … Tar and oil residues are common on California beaches, especially in … Santa Barbara County Natural Seep Inventory Project (2002-2004) … East Beach – Santa Barbara County Natural Seep Inventory Project (2002-2004) … ♦ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_seep
Re-worked tar on beach at Rozel Point, Utah. The black … The world’s largest natural oil seepage is Coal Oil Point in the Santa Barbara Channel, California.
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Comments (33) (Please sign in to comment)
Clark Kent said, 3 months ago
Believe the oil spill.
Stipple said, 3 months ago
Still oil under the pebbles on the beaches from the Exxon Valdez, how many years ago?
.
The stuff lingers, some truism about oil and water don’t mix?
Uncle Joe said, 3 months ago
The BP Grill has a special on uncooked blackened shrimp.
Ms. Ima said, 3 months ago
More oil seeps into the gulf naturally than a hundred oil spills.
CasualBrowser
said, 3 months ago
@Ms. Ima
“More oil seeps into the gulf naturally than a hundred oil spills.”
-
Assuming you’re correct (I’d need some sort of citation before believing you), what’s your point?
omQ R said, 3 months ago
@CasualBrowser
Don’t bother, don’t take the bait, just a troll.
mikefive said, 3 months ago
@CasualBrowser
“More oil seeps into the gulf naturally than a hundred oil spills.”
♦
Oil does seep into the Gulf of Mexico, but not nearly in the quantity that Ima suggests.
♦
earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=20863
narrowminded said, 3 months ago
Truth: no one knows how much oil leaks into the oceans. All we know is. .. It does. Nature has a way of dealing with it. Volcanoes create far more greenhouse gases than man ever has or will….. Nature has a way of dealing with it. No ecosystem is pristine or unchanged, nature is in constant change, local and global.
Man as the right to live and prosper. Capitalist nations have the resources to not make messes in the first place and to clean up messes when things go wrong. Socialist nations do neither, the resources don’ t exist.
Newenglandah said, 3 months ago
@narrowminded
Have you been to China in the last few years? They are more capitalist than the US is.
motivemagus said, 3 months ago
@ima, @narrowminded, it constantly amazes me how you are willing to defend ADMITTED liars and crooks. Between 2007-2010 BP had 97 percent of all flagrant violations found in the refining industry by government safety inspectors.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/06/bp-violations-and-spills/
Because natural leakages exist, this does not justify preventable oil spills. Furthermore, contrary to what you seem to believe, there is clear and evident damage from oil spills. Alaskan sea life by the shore has NEVER come back to what it was before the Valdez spilled.
And I have family in the Florida Panhandle. It has some of the most beautiful sand in the world — white “flour sand.” But if you dig down anywhere now, you will find a layer of oil. This is not a natural leakage, this is a direct product of the BP spill.
Quit defending criminals. Oh, and @narrowminded, your “socialist vs. capitalist” comparison is simply irrelevant if not badly mistaken. The oil industry received major exemptions from taxes from OUR government — meaning corporate welfare or socialism — and safety devices required by other nations were nixed by VP Dick Cheney. The safest oil company in the world is, in fact, half government-owned by the Scandinavians (eek! successful socialism!), and they require safety devices because they are representing ALL the people.
Simon_Jester said, 3 months ago
@Stipple
In Santa Barbara California, your can’t walk on the beach without bringing along some tar remover. That’s the legacy of an oil spill dating back to the 1960s
Robert Landers said, 3 months ago
@motivemagus
Thank you for both the reasonable and moderate post. I am sure that the ultra conservative trolls will shortly try to thrash you for it. Like cockroaches they seem to be multiplying on this particular comment board. Perhaps the authorities that run this board will eventually have to do what Fox NEWS did (one of the few times I have agreed with fox) and shut this comment section down, just as Fox did theirs. It is indeed a pity that this would punish the few moderate liberals and yes, some few moderate conservatives also, along with the extremists!!
Simon_Jester said, 3 months ago
@narrowminded
REAL truth….the only proof you offered for any of those things was, ‘because I said so.’
Simon_Jester said, 3 months ago
@HOWGOZIT
LOL! You’re in Middle School, aren’t you?
mikefive said, 3 months ago
@Simon_Jester
The following dispute your assertion:
♦
www.soscalifornia.org/problem.html
Do you know… The Tar on the Santa Barbara Beaches is from Natural Oil Seeps in the Channel. To the dismay of local beach-goers, sticky globules of tar lap up …
♦
articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/07/local/la-me-oil-birds-20120307
Mar 7, 2012 … Oil seeping from the ocean floor off Santa Barbara is taking a toll on seabirds that … along the Southern California coastline coated in crude oil and tar. … die offshore or, in an act of desperation, plant themselves on the beach.
♦
walrus.wr.usgs.gov/research/projects/oilandgasseep.html
Mar 13, 2012 … Tar and oil residues are common on California beaches, especially in … Santa Barbara County Natural Seep Inventory Project (2002-2004) …
East Beach – Santa Barbara County Natural Seep Inventory Project (2002-2004) …
♦
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_seep
Re-worked tar on beach at Rozel Point, Utah. The black … The world’s largest natural oil seepage is Coal Oil Point in the Santa Barbara Channel, California.