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Joe Heller

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  1. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, over 1 year ago

    The prez could have accepted flexibility in the “cuts”, but no, he wants maximum punishment to those who dare to reign in debt.

  2. TheTrustedMechanic

    TheTrustedMechanic GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @Tigger

    So that absolves congress of all guilt? Hmmm, don’t you try to blame the Democrats in control of congress during ding george’s regime and absolve king george of any responsibility? We all know he was irresponsible but your double standards are right in keeping with your republilcan idiotology.

  3. TheTrustedMechanic

    TheTrustedMechanic GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @ConserveGov

    Any intelligent, thinking person would be able to understand that the ONLY reason why congress was trying to pass that bill to give the President the power to direct cuts was to be able to blame him for their short-sighted intransigent refusal to do their jobs. Since you are neither of those things (intelligent or able to think for yourself) I can see why you don’t understand the subterfuge of the republicans in congress. It was not about sparing the pain, it was not about giving flexibility, it was about being able to divert blame. And the President was too smart for them.

  4. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, over 1 year ago

    As I was about to reply to ConserveGov, I suddenly remembered that every bill that has squeaked through the legislation to the President’s desk has had rider and amendments attached to them. Some of them were never debated in committee and no one can be ‘blamed for them" because they were attached with no names. I find it shocking and horrifying that our gov’t can function like this legally.
    Every bill that goes to the President’s desk is a ticking bomb with some new rule or law no one has given proper attention and to which Americans are going to have to obey. Some will be pleased with this ambush legislation, one bill made laws preventing gov’t oversight on guns permanent, another made it harder to prosecute agricultural companies if their genetically modified plants had problems. These and more were attached to the spending bill, a bill that “HAD” to be passed.
    What will be put into the immigration bill? Or other future bills? Even if you get what you want “THIS time”, do you want to lose something because of what another congressman does “NEXT TIME”?
    Also, the legislation has nearly gutted the bill passed last year to prevent them from using their positions to profit off of the stock market.
    Your gov’t at work.
    How many of you have written to your congressmen and senators?
    The sequester is a ham handed way for cowardly legislators to get out of doing their jobs. There are specific cuts that could be made and so many other ways to make our gov’t more efficient without doing the damage to the middle class. They just won’t.
    Respectfully,
    and a little scared,
    C.

  5. TheTrustedMechanic

    TheTrustedMechanic GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @Tigger

    By signing a bill into law the President is in effect voting for the bill. With that premise the vote of one man does not undo the responsibility of the majority of members of Congress who voted for the sequester. Yes a majority of republicans in both houses and a majority of Democrats in the Senate voted for it. The vote tally was
    HoR
    Republicans – 174 yes, 66 no
    Democrats – 95 yes, 95 no
    Senate
    republicans – 28 yes, 19 no
    Democrats – 45 yes, 6 no

    In the past when I blamed the president for something that happened because he signed it into law or because he presided over the event, it is to place blame in addition to the blame in Congress. When a President expresses a want for something and Congress gives him a bill to do just that, then all three are culpable, the President, the Senate members in favor and the House members in favor. But this very simple truth seems to complex for you to understand. I wonder if the reality of the matter eludes you because it didn’t come from the propaganda factory.

    I really get tired of having to school the ignorant members here, and for some reason the ones who ignore the repeated presentations of FACT seem to be certain CONservative members. And they call the liberals dumb.

  6. TheTrustedMechanic

    TheTrustedMechanic GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    How exactly am I a hypocrit (sic)? I stated that if I placed blame on baby bush it was in addition to, not to the exclusion of the blame due to congress. But it is you Conservatives who want to blame congress when the Democrats have control and excuse the president when he a republican but when the tables are turned and the republicans control congress or the president is a Democrat then it’s all the president’s fault and congress is blameless. That is hypocirisy. That is having double standards, and that is what you and your reDUMBlican ilk do. So when I place the blame equally but you have double standards, just who is the hypocrite? Here’s a hint, it’s YOU.

  7. TheTrustedMechanic

    TheTrustedMechanic GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @HOWGOZIT

    “They also voted for the wars you bimbos keep blaming President Bush for.”
    The difference is White House staff suggested the sequester, but Congress drafted the bills, reconciled them and passed them. So the White House, with President Obama as its leader, is responsible for the idea, but Congress is responsible for the actual bill. As for your attempt to absolve georgie boy of blame for his debacles in the Middle East, I have opined before, congress-critters at that time were boxed in. If king george wanted anything any congress-critters opposed were labeled “unpatriotic” and that was a death sentence for their political careers. What was that line from baby bush again? Oh, yeah, “Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.” That was stated by baby bush in an address to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001 and the sentiment was perpetrated upon his opposition for as long as it was effective with the public. And who wanted to be with the terrorists? It was another successful propaganda campaign by the liar-in-chief just like his campaign leading up to the Iraq Invasion. So yes, Democrats voted for the Iraq Invasion. Many voted based on lies and intimidation. That doesn’t excuse them, but it surely mitigates their culpability and increases the level of blame due to the irresponsible king george. Irresponsible to be sure, after all you guys never let him be responsible for anything.

  8. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 1 year ago

    “Not too much of a hypocrit there, wrench jockey”

    Good grief, HOWGOZIT. How many times do different people have to tell you how the sequester happened before you believe it. The data from the dot gov sites TTM has previously referenced are easily verifiable. Multiple, credible news sites have write-ups on the sequence of events leading up to the sequester becoming law. Have you considered that the source of information you are using has an agenda and that agenda doesn’t include reality?

  9. TheTrustedMechanic

    TheTrustedMechanic GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @ansonia

    You are right about three things,
    1) I can and do have many opinions regarding the worst president in the history of this nation. And as opinions they are neither right or wrong in the sense of truth and facts. But they are my opinions, and i base my opinions on truth and facts.
    2) I do make “venomous name-calling attacks.” But you are wrong that they are based on misinformation. I seek out facts and truth and make comments based on same. I also make comments based on my opinions, see point #1.
    3) History will judge, and I will not have any significant input.

    Only if the republicans have their way at rewriting history will history judge him anything but a failure, a liar and evil.

  10. TheTrustedMechanic

    TheTrustedMechanic GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    @ansonia

    “the President was too smart for them.”
    If you had any level of integrity you would be able to understand the difference. The republicans obstruct everything the President wants, even their own bills, and it is not a long leap to conclude it is simply because the President agrees or thinks the idea is a good one.
    To the contrary the President opposed the offer to allow him to decide what was cut and where because, again not a long leap, it was strictly to affix blame, not to correct the problem Congress created in the first place. Any competent mind would be capable of understanding that if the President made the decision as to what program to cut, he rightly would receive 100% of the blame for doing Congress’ job. So why on God’s green earth would he accept the blame for doing Congress’ job? Only an idiot would do that. The republicans obviously hoped he was the idiot they try to make him out to be, but he was too smart for them, or at least smarter than them.

  11. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, over 1 year ago

    It’s too bad SCOTUS said the line item veto was unconstitutional. Then we would see, after a veto, who TRULY wanted WHAT! AND who chickened out when it came to voting for a specific item NOT hidden in another bill.

  12. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, over 1 year ago

    @edinbaltimore

    Thank You Edinbaltimore.
    My feelings exactly.
    Gratefully,
    C.

  13. MortyForTyrant

    MortyForTyrant said, over 1 year ago

    I don’t know what this latest craze is, with the Cinnamon, and I don’t care, but you Americans have always been crazy and will one day kill yourselves. Darwin Award for a whole nation – unprecedented…

  14. BronyInk

    BronyInk said, about 1 year ago

    So the ciniman challenge is what, eat a teaspoon of cinnamon? What do doctors think we did as kids when we couldn’t find any candy?

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