Joe Heller by Joe Heller

Joe Heller

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  1. Uncle Joe

    Uncle Joe GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    Fine, eliminate all deductions and credits. Treat all income the same, whether it’s from a W-2 or capital gains. Create 4 or 5 tax brackets, & you have a one page return for all.

    Then wait for the rebellion.

  2. Adam Sherlock

    Adam Sherlock said, over 3 years ago

    New tax form

    1) What money did you receive last year?
    2) Send it!

  3. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 3 years ago

    The only fair tax is the one where I don’t pay any and everyone else does.

  4. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    4my: We grew up poor. Dad worked summers at a second job while Mom raised us kids. DON’T TELL ME THE POOR ARE LAZY!!! Do you think Lindsay Lohan , Paris Hilton and other RICH CELEBRITIES are hard working simply because they get their names in the news? Get your head out of your backside and actually LOOK at what REGULAR people go through! Or maybe read something other than Reagan era political fiction!

  5. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 3 years ago

    It’s good to see the sentiment expressed so clearly. I bet you think you’re a Christian, too.

  6. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 3 years ago

    Yeah, when Andrew Jackson said “Let’s take care of the Indians” he had social services in mind.

  7. lonecat

    lonecat said, over 3 years ago

    No one I know thinks that the government should “take care of” people — we do believe that certain social services are a good idea, both for individuals and for society — social security, public health, highway construction, fire departments, unemployment insurance, a good (single-payer) health insurance system, and welfare when people really have no alternative. I don’t believe people should be paid not to work. Work is good for the soul. Or, better, good work is good for the soul.

  8. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, over 3 years ago

    It was necessary to delete my original comment because I noticed others had answered the question it proposed very well. I’ll just note the following.
    ^ History of the Income Tax 1
    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html
    ^
    Income Tax and the Civil War
    http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/warfare-and-logistics/logistics/tax.html
    ^From about.com
    http://history1900s.about.com/od/1910s/a/incometax.htm
    ^
    That’s the history. How we enact tax reform will depend on thoughtful bipartisan cooperation and the ability of voters to communicate ideas to open minded legislators.
    Before any one says, “We’re doomed.” realize, it’s not impossible, but it will take voter participation and communication.
    Respectfuly,
    C.

  9. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 3 years ago

    “If I didn’t know you….”

    Glad you caught that. I do satire so seldom that I should probably label it as such when I do.

  10. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 3 years ago

    Although the three customers work with code for a living, it is still not as confounding as the tax code. What can you say about a code that is so convoluted and baffling that the originating agency, the IRS, won’t accept responsibility for any of the advice they give?

  11. Stipple

    Stipple said, over 3 years ago

    I am trying to understand the apparent conflict in your statement “actually got spent”.
    .
    Are you saying the poor people receiving government money did not spend it?
    Did they burn it? give it back, wipe butts with it?
    .
    Just where are you saying the money went?Maybe you are the confused one.

  12. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, over 3 years ago

    “why not one tax bracket…oh wait that would be unfair to the “poor” “read LAZY’”

    Due to circumstances beyond my control (involving a future ex-wife and her attorney from hell), I found myself instantly poor. Happened while I was at work; came home and found the house empty and the bank accounts empty. Although the bills were joint, my ex didn’t pay any of them, as she knew I cared more about my credit as a business owner than she cared about hers. In order to continue to remain in good standing with my creditors, I had to continue to make payments for stuff I no longer had. And I had far less income to make that happen.

    It taught me a lot. Mostly, what it taught me was how many people made judgments about how I got to be where I was. Sometimes you have to be on the other side to know what the other side is really like.

    I truly hope you never have to find out for yourself, but there’s a reason “walk a mile in my shoes” is a common phrase.

  13. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    “The complaint heard most often is the extremely disparate treatment of income from actual labor (taxed higher) than from investments (why tax it at all they say).”

    I’m assuming you’re talking about capital gains as being an unfair tax rate. For reference, the origin of our tax system goes back to the middle ages. Income from your labors was considered your measure of wealth. Selling land or farming equip or personal items to another was considered incidental and not significant to wealth measurement i.e. not taxable at the same rate as labor. .

    Fast forward a few hundred years and the first argument for long term capital gains (held longer than one year) is first and foremost they are subject to double taxation. First you work and earn money, are taxed on that income, invest it and then are taxed again when you liquidate the investment. A reduced rate for long term capital gains (the profit) was considered “fair.”

    Now when you are talking about short term capital gains (held for less than one year) it is a different matter. They are taxed at the ordinary income rate, on average 28%.

    No matter how you slice it, there is always going to be an argument of “fairness” in taxation. Flat taxes are harder on low income earners. Vat taxes are harder on low income earners. Our progressive tax system actually works well for our culture but is incredibly complex and is always being considered “unfair” to one income level or another. As it is now it definitely favors low income people for lower tax rates and many refundable credits not available to middle and upper class taxpayers. I do have a strong background in this, been an accountant for 30 years. I’m just post this for informational purposes, I have no (stated) position

    Last but not least, the “Fair tax” is an interesting concept but has many questions of administration, implementation and whether it is a true improvement on our existing system.
    Thus endeth the long drawn out dialog.

  14. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    “Others have called you for your comment but I will try a different tact. At first blush your comment looks to be condescending, arrogant and based in ignorance.”


    You are bending over backwards to be nice. It sounded to me just like you detailed: condescending, arrogant and based on ignorance. I would add bigoted since it insults all low income earners and the unemployed.

  15. mikefive

    mikefive said, over 3 years ago

    @mickey1339

    Interesting commentary about capital gains tax.

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