Joe Heller by Joe Heller

Joe Heller

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  1. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    This actually is a “thought provoking” cartoon. Or my coffee just hasn’t kicked in yet… Since our economy is heavily reliant on consumer spending could this be a signal of pent up demand showing up after such a long period of austerity? Of course it could just be a great effort on the part of the retail sector promoting Black Friday and the media doing their usual pump job. Hopefully this is indicative of the holiday spending because otherwise it means it is just early spending versus later and the holiday won’t be an economic lift. Sometimes being an accountant and financial analyst is a pain, I never seem to be able to just shrug and say “Oh good weekend. I’ll bet the retailers are happy…”

  2. MortyForTyrant

    MortyForTyrant said, almost 2 years ago

    @mickey1339

    Alternative: everybody had their demand contained until the big offerings for Black Friday came around because they simply didn’t have the money to buy the stuff they needed (not wanted!) for the regular price. I’m not a financial analyst but that seems to be a viable option to me…

  3. ahab

    ahab GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    Recovery, ah!

  4. lonecat

    lonecat said, almost 2 years ago

    Is there a way to run an economy without relying on lots and lots of consumption of things we don’t need that damage the environment?

  5. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @lonecat

    I think that’s a really good question. The answer, as Mhic said is ‘probably not’.
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    So then, the next question is — where will the jobs come from? And where should they come from?
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    Those adhering to the myth that the wealthy are job creators need not respond.

  6. The Wolf In Your Midst

    The Wolf In Your Midst said, almost 2 years ago

    The whole Grey Thursday, Off-White Wednesday, Eggshell Tuesday, etc. thing and the ridiculous cuts in price I’ve seen to get people in the door on Thanksgiving smells to me of desperation. I wonder if it’ll all be enough?

  7. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, almost 2 years ago

    @mickey1339

    Some good comments in this string. Mickey, you reminded me of a talk show story on bankruptcies and one man who saw his business was going to go under so he used his cash to pay off all taxes and then ran all of his cards and credit to the max and took a three month vacation before coming back and declaring bankruptcy. Within seven years, he had his own business again.
    I wonder if the next generation of bankrupts will result from the confidence we see in our neighbors spending.
    I hope their confidence is well founded.
    Respectfully,
    & Happy Holidayze,
    C.

  8. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, almost 2 years ago

    What does it say of a society that spends one official day to reflect on what we have to be thankful for, and then later that same day, rush out to spend money we don’t have to get stuff no one needs?

    When the rush is over, and people have spent as much as they’re willing to spend, which will be soon, the retailers will provide more bargains without our having to be willing to put up with unhappy, stressed sidewalk dwellers. Sometimes I wish all of us could see that; sometimes I’m glad I seem to be the only one.

  9. Rad-ish

    Rad-ish GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @I Play One On TV

    Noam Chomsky, on the whys of Black Fridays:

    “The goal for the corporations is to maximize profit and market share. And they also have a goal for their target, namely the population. They have to be turned into completely mindless consumers of goods that they do not want. You have to develop what are called ‘Created Wants’. So you have to create wants. You have to impose on people what’s called a Philosophy of Futility. You have to focus them on the insignificant things of life, like fashionable consumption. I’m just basically quoting business literature. And it makes perfect sense. The ideal is to have individuals who are totally disassociated from one another. Whose conception of themselves, the sense of value is just, ‘how many created wants can I satisfy?’ We have huge industries, public relations industry, monstrous industry, advertising and so on, which are designed from infancy to mold people into this desired pattern.”
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    http://farleftside.com/2012/11-26-12-wasted-wishes.html

  10. edinbaltimore

    edinbaltimore GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    Wall Street Journal article over the weekend: Black Friday bargains aren’t. Most items were on sale, at lower prices, at other times of the year. It’s the HYPE, boy! (apologies to Foghorn Leghorn!)

  11. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    Green plastic spending, more debt, more profit for banks.

  12. ronald rini

    ronald rini said, almost 2 years ago

    sorry how does buying imports help us. Now if most of the purchases were made in the USA I could see this as a good thing. Here is what I see we have some people working and we collect some taxes but most of that money that is being spent is being spent on imports. Not anything that will help us in the long run

  13. Rottiluv

    Rottiluv GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @lonecat

    Of course? Why else do you think they’ll give anyone a credit card these days?

  14. braindead08

    braindead08 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @ansonia

    As espoused by Eric Cantor and most Republicans, job creators = the wealthy. That’s the clear message, although they never get specific.
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    When raising taxes on the wealthy is the subject, Cantor always responds that this is no time to be taxing the job creators as if they were one and the same.
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    Republicans on these boards have responded in the same way, as if protecting tax breaks for the wealthy will somehow increase growth of both jobs and the economy.
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    I agree with your post, that growth of a business has created jobs AND created wealth. But, most of the Fox “news” viewers here believe that wealth causes jobs and not the other way around.
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    And, they cannot identify any specific job creators.

  15. ahab

    ahab GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @DrCanuck

    I love dogs, don’t get me wrong. We spend billions of dollars on our pets in America. Hunting dogs have G.P.S. finders. I went kick boat fishing for trout in a rather small lake. The other fisherman on the water had an electric motor on his kick-boat, as well as a fish-finder, which he’d point inland to locate only the big fish. I revived a couple of trout he left gasping on weed beds, because he was too lazy, and in too big a hurry to take the time to let them recover in his net. I finally excused myself, and paddled up to him to let him gently know he was croaking all of his released trout. If he was spending thousands of dollars to fish, he should spend 5 minutes to keep the big ones alive, on a catch and release lake. He took a lot more time from then on. When we first started talking, he said it was his favorite lake, and he was puzzled by all the dead fish he’d seen:-)

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