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Jim Morin

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  1. wmconelly

    wmconelly said, about 3 years ago

    They’re getting Rush & Glen Fox Healthcare: all the bile & vinegar a person can hold.

  2. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, about 3 years ago

    Yep. Anyone know the actual provisions? Here are a few:
    1. ObamaCare prohibits insurance companies from dropping your coverage if you get sick or make an honest mistake on your application.
    2. It eliminates pre-existing conditions and gender discrimination.
    3. Lets young adults stay on their parent’s plans until 26.
    4. Creates State based Health Insurance Exchange Marketplaces where Americans can shop for Federally regulated and subsided insurance.
    5. Protects against unjustified rate hikes and give you more rights to appeal insurance company decisions and much, much more.

    Points 1, 2, and 5 protect citizens from rapacious insurance companies and their near-monopoly status (most states have no more than one or two major plans available).
    Point 4 introduces competition — you’d think Republicans would like that — SINCE THEY CAME UP WITH IT.
    Point 3 helps cover one of the least-covered groups and also provides some financial support for the program, as young people have fewer medical needs, which is precisely why some of the jerks in the GOP are trying to persuade them to put their health at risk to suit THEIR political needs.
    Anyone mind telling me why any of these extremely mild reforms are objectionable? There’s no “socialized medicine” (as in the UK), it works entirely through the existing insurance industry and medical industries (which is actually the biggest criticism), and it protects individual Americans.

  3. dannysixpack

    dannysixpack said, about 3 years ago

    ^but Obama likes it!

  4. furnituremaker

    furnituremaker said, about 3 years ago

    If what Motive says is correct, then it just might be an
    improvement on the present health care system, who knows?

  5. ARodney

    ARodney said, about 3 years ago

    Okay, I Googled the polls on Obamacare. Turns out that 30% of Americans don’t know what the ACA is, so the cartoon is correct. 44% of Americans oppose defunding Obamacare, only 35% support defunding Obamacare. The polls don’t support your position, big guy. And once people have tried their Green Eggs and Ham, there will be no stealing away life from people who don’t want to die.

  6. eugene57

    eugene57 said, about 3 years ago

    “Ask them if they like the new free healthcare.”
    You keep posting that, but where is it free.
    (There is the case where Sara Palin admitted her family would cross into Canada for free doctor care as they did not pay Canadian taxes. That would be an exception, not a rule.)

  7. Enoki

    Enoki said, about 3 years ago

    Come back and ask them in a couple of weeks when their bank accounts have been emptied to pay for it….

  8. Enoki

    Enoki said, about 3 years ago


    And a few more: Yours first motive:

    1 and 2. This raises the cost of all policies to cover those with expensive pre-existing conditions. It also raises the cost of a policy for groups that are healthy and unlikely to use alot of insurance. It also unfairly raises men’s policies as women generally use more health care than men.

    3. An irrelevancy that was done to buy votes.

    4. With, as of today, uncertain costs and availability. This does not create competition either but rather in the long run will create a monopoly of sorts. All the plans will end up costing virtually the same and all will be at the high end of the cost range simply because all of the insurers can see what others are charging, and by having near similar pricing in a forced buy market (one HAS to buy a policy) they simply get the maximum profit per person.

    5. Define any of that. I can see more “unjustified” rate hikes with Obamacare simply because the government is largely in control of the program and doesn’t have to explain their actions.

    It will also:

    Create a market for people to scam the system blatantly. There will be those who cannot or are unwilling to pay for a policy and who will skirt the IRS penalities.
    Others will temporarily buy a policy around tax time only to drop it after skirting the penality and then go the year without insurance to save money.
    Since pre-existing conditions have to be covered you can buy a policy in the emergancy room for coverage in the event you actually do need it and it will cover you.

    Employers are now encouraged to turn their workforce into part timers to save costs on health insurance. They are further encouraged to drop family plans and only cover the worker where workers are full time. That has already been seen to be happening.

    That is why these “…extremely mild reforms…” are anything but that. They create a horribly inefficent system that is riddled with holes and problems that people can and will take advantage of.

    Obamacare is objectionable because all it does is add complexity and costs to an otherwise bad system for paying for health insurance and worse, it does nothing to change who or how that insurance is paid for.
    The problem required changing the system not adding bureaucracy and forcing everyone into it. Obamacare is a fool’s solution to the problem of cost of health care.

  9. Enoki

    Enoki said, about 3 years ago

    Yep, David, through all that blather you put up answer this:

    If everyone who owns / drives a car is required to have auto insurance why do people who do have it have to buy uninsured motorist coverage?

    Obama is an economic and business illiterate. He is the last person I’d go to or believe on anything in those fields. Just because he stated something at some speech doesn’t make it true.
    He told the American public they could keep their current coverage if they liked it. That was a lie. He said Americans could keep their current doctor, health provider, etc., and that was a lie.
    Basically, he lied his @$$ off to get Obamacare passed just as Pelosi and Reid did in Congress. The whole program is a mess and a lie.

  10. Enoki

    Enoki said, about 3 years ago

    Oh, one more thing David, you put in an awful lot of logical fallacies in your rebuttal. You loaded it with fallacies of composition in that you inferred and then made “fact” all sorts of things I never said, implied, or otherwise put in my original post.
    You build off those numerous false dilemmas and complex question fallacies that are then used to incorrectly attack my original statements.

    And, through all that you still fail in proving that Obamacare will work.

  11. mbraun

    mbraun said, about 3 years ago

    This cartoon was true right after the law was passed-and the people to the right were Congressmen!

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