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  1. Michael wme

    Michael wme said, 4 months ago

    Al Jazeera is NOT an oil-based company. It’s a natural gas-based company. BIG difference. As the liberal NYT columnists point out, oil is based on carbon and causes global warming, while natural gas is carbon-free and puts no CO2 into the atmosphere. Which also shows how intelligent and well-informed the NYT insists that its columnists must be.

  2. olfart

    olfart said, 4 months ago

    And the other media are NOT being paid by Big Energy. Yeah, right!

  3. mikefive

    mikefive said, 4 months ago

    @Michael wme

    I think your NYT columnist didn’t do well in the chemistry class he should have taken while studying journalism since burning natural is CH4[g] + 2 O2[g] → CO2[g] + 2 H2O[l] + 891 kJ. Or, burning natural gas in air yields carbon dioxide and water. My source for that formula (a gas company) managed to omit that there are sometimes trace amounts of sulfur in the natural gas that results in miniscule amounts of sulfur dioxide. There are also trace amounts of mercury and nitrogen oxides emitted. Nonetheless, natural gas produces about 45% less CO2 per Btu than coal.
    If I have completely geeked you out and caused your eyes to glaze over, my apologies.

  4. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, 4 months ago

    @mikefive

    Geeks of the world, UNITE!
    Without geeks, we wouldn’t be having this conversation on the internet.
    Great response.
    While I was glad Mr. Gore produced his documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, I never liked him as a politician. I also give him no credit for the “Information Superhighway”. How did he even make that claim?
    Voting against W. Bush in 2000, I had to pick him, but was really tempted to put a write in vote as protest.
    I wonder what he’ll do with his profits.
    Keep up the good work, Mike!
    Sincerely,
    C.

  5. mikefive

    mikefive said, 4 months ago

    @Respectful Troll

    “Voting against W. Bush in 2000,….”

    I yearn mightily to vote FOR candidates instead of voting AGAINST them. The lesser of two evils thing.

  6. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, 4 months ago

    Gore is absolutely not the right person to be carrying that torch.

  7. lonecat

    lonecat said, 4 months ago

    @ScottPM

    and that fact that you believed that Michaelwme believed it…..

  8. Jase99

    Jase99 said, 4 months ago

    " I also give him no credit for the “Information Superhighway”. How did he even make that claim?"

    If you’re talking about the news headlines that he claimed to have invented the internet, it was all bull s**t. No one person invented the system of networks that morphed into the internet and it’s stupid for anyone to make that claim. One initial newspaper misquoted a speech Gore gave and all the other papers picked up on that article without bothering to read the transcripts of the speech. He never made that claim. The claim he did make was that he helped it along by working to get it congressional funding.

  9. mikefive

    mikefive said, 4 months ago

    @Jase99

    Jeez, Jase99, I remember that speech and what you just posted was the spin that Al put on it to correct his comment.

  10. jack75287

    jack75287 said, 4 months ago

    The sell out to fossil fuel is second to some of the people Al Jazeera pay homage to. Last night Bill O’Riely told how Al Jazeera threw a party for a guy who went into Israel and killed a little girl. If fox news is to bias for you then here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samir_Kuntar

  11. wmconelly

    wmconelly said, 4 months ago

    Hmmmm. Let’s see what he does with the money before we oil the man the man and set him afire. I note that — billions in hand — even The Survival of the Micro Fittest Gates has developed a positive side.

  12. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 4 months ago

    @mikefive

    Geeks rule.


    (Nerds, also.)

  13. ansonia

    ansonia said, 4 months ago

    @Jase99

    Gore’s words were: “During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the internet.”
    .
    You can argue that that doesn’t mean he “invented” it, but he sure is self-serving in wanting to take credit for “creating” it.
    Many of the components in “creating the internet” occurred before Gore was elected to Congress in 1977. He may have “helped it along by working to get congressional funding” but a lot of other people in Congress did equally.

  14. MortyForTyrant

    MortyForTyrant said, 4 months ago

    @Michael wme

    I googled for “new york times natural gas carbon” and got no hits on Faux, Drudge, Free Republic and the like. Could you provide a link to the article? I would think that the whole RWNJ blogosphere would be on fire about this. Oh, and if you mean that gas emits less carbon-oxides per unit of energy produced: that is correct and a totally different discussion…

  15. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 4 months ago

    @Respectful Troll

    You’re starting to really cheese my crackers again!
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    You give Al Gore no credit for the Information Superhighway, how could he make the claim that he didn’t make but that the right wing swiftyboaters said so many times that he did that it became “common knowledge” that he did even though he didn"t?
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    Gee!
    .
    The Internet was a military project. Funding for that project (which BTW was one of those “Oh Come on now, you’ve got to be kidding me! We’re not going to waste money on an idea like that are we? There’s a Star Wars project to fund!” type of idea).
    .
    Al was on the committee that approved funding for the project. He was one of a few that saw it as worthwhile.
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    But you don’t give him credit.
    .
    Likewise, I’m sure.
    .
    Mikefive just bit on one of Michael wme’s Steven Colbert wannabe postings. Everybody knows that natural gas is carbon based. And that includes the folks at the NYT.
    .
    You bit too. Michael wme manages to derail another conversation with his “wit” (half, nit or dim type, I’m not sure)
    .
    As to the stupidity of the cartoon.
    .
    When one is an environmentalist it doesn’t mean that one is “Anti Oil” in that there is no turning off the electrical generators. Should we work to find a better way to use the oil? Yes. Should we look for ways to more efficiently use the electricity generated? Yes. Should we stop generating? NO!
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    So the cartoon is the “stupid horn” of a dichotomy (which as you know is a false choice).
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    Further, Al Jazeera is a business (it is the result of EXACTLY what American Wealth managers have been telling the Arab world to do, find venture beyond oil to maintain your standard of living, because oil is finite) It makes it money by selling content and renting airtime to advertisers.
    .
    This kerfuffle about them buying a failing cable channel “from” Al Gore is just more character assasination from the right wing.

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