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  1. Ketira shena Pretarasedrin

    Ketira shena Pretarasedrin said, 4 months ago

    Yes, the flu can be miserable. I’m still getting over my bout of pneumonia from November….

  2. Ms. Ima

    Ms. Ima said, 4 months ago

    No flu for me, I got the shot.

  3. Kylop

    Kylop said, 4 months ago

    @Ms. Ima

    You paid cash for that shot?

  4. Dycel

    Dycel said, 4 months ago

    @Ms. Ima

    5.52 or 7.62?

  5. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 4 months ago

    @Kylop

    It’s free in Canada.

  6. Stipple

    Stipple said, 4 months ago

    Screw that metric mantra, .223 for Americans.
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    Flu shots save lives. Young and old both need them, you guys in the middle should be able to tough it out.

  7. Fourcrows

    Fourcrows said, 4 months ago

    I’ve never “suffered” with a flu for more than one day, and don’t believe in flu shots for those over five and under 70, unless there are extent health problems. In general, increasing vitamin C intake during the winter seems to work and keep excercising to keep your cardio and pulmonary health up. Save the shots for those who need them, like Stipple said.
    Of course, my wife tells me my mother’s cooking was so bad, I probably developed an immunity to just about everything by the time I grew up.

  8. SkepticCal

    SkepticCal said, 4 months ago

    @DrCanuck

    Free? What did you do knock over a pharmacy?

  9. lonecat

    lonecat said, 4 months ago

    @SkepticCal

    In Ontario, the government sets up clinics around and about. You walk in and get your shot and leave. I got mine from my family doctor. Most prescriptions are not free — for instance, I just got the shingles vaccine, and it costs, but my insurance at work pays for it. The flu shot, however, is free.

  10. SkepticCal

    SkepticCal said, 4 months ago

    @lonecat

    Free? But, I repeat myself.
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    Please clarify whether the flu shot in question was free or whether other people paid for your flu shot?
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    “According to the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI), in 1975, total Canadian health care costs consumed 7% of the Gross Domestic Product (GDP). Canada’s total health care expenditures as a percentage of GDP grew to an estimated 11.7% in 2010 (or $5,614 CDN per person)”.
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    “$5,614 per person”
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    That’s what ya’all mean when you say ‘free’?

  11. lonecat

    lonecat said, 4 months ago

    By your logic, nothing is ever free, so the word should be banished from the dictionary. If a company says, “Buy our product and get a free something or other!!!”, you would have to say, “That’s not free, somebody had to pay for it.”

  12. SkepticCal

    SkepticCal said, 4 months ago

    @lonecat

    An unwarranted generalization.
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    Sticking to the subject of your free flu shot, you did not build that [flu shot].

  13. lonecat

    lonecat said, 4 months ago

    @

    I have no idea what your most recent post means. But sticking to the flu shot, all taxpayers in Ontario contribute to the costs of health care. Since I am one of those taxpayers, I am not freeloading, any more than you are freeloading when you drive on a highway built with money from taxes. In the English language, however, the word “free” is used to mean what I mean when I say the flu shot is free. If I go into a bakery and the baker gives me a cookie for “free”, that means I don’t give him a dollar for the cookie. In some sense somebody pays for the cookie, since in order to maintain his profit he has to take the cost of that “free” cookie into account when he is pricing the rest of what he sells, but I don’t pay for when he gives it to me, and so I say it is “free”. That’s the language. It’s perverse to deny that use of the word to the flu shot in Ontario.

  14. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 4 months ago

    @SkepticCal

    Here’s the thing: flu shots and general health care is what our taxes pay for.


    What do YOUR taxes pay for?

  15. SkepticCal

    SkepticCal said, 4 months ago

    @lonecat

    Best wishes in your search for ‘free’ cookies.
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    “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”
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    Perhaps, the time has come to abandon ‘free’ to the ageless unknown.

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