Jeff Stahler by Jeff Stahler

Jeff Stahler

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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    Those who don’t know, underestimate the power of a 12 gauge shotgun, long barrel, with 00 buckshot. I finally agree with Scott on something.

  2. Robert Landers

    Robert Landers said, almost 4 years ago


    Unfortunately however, such scatter is just as liable to wipe out the children in the class room, as it is the particular attacker.

    Perhaps I am being naive, but I would hope that our schools do NOT have to have an armed guard in every class room

  3. mickey1339

    mickey1339 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    Cold blooded as it may sound, it’s less likely to “wipe out the children” from a shotgun blast unless the children are clustered around the gunman. That is unlikely, they would probably run from him and give the shotgun person a fairly clear field of fire. Obviously anything is possible but a shotgun can be a great defensive weapon. You can put out a fast, deadly field of fire when you know what you’re doing. Training is key.

  4. Movingsound

    Movingsound GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    Ahhh the new math. If X is twenty feet away with a small caliber weapon and Y is thirty feet away with an automatic. X hits the target 80% of the time but has had too much coffee. Y is a 95% …………….

  5. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, almost 4 years ago

    Always hated math problems that didn’t have all of the variables included. Mr. Stahler could have made this a much more interesting cartoon with more information.
    The answer to the question won’t be solved until we figure out the value of “Y” (why).

  6. Ken M

    Ken M GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    Better yet, the question should be asked: “If an attacker has 3 magazines with 10 rounds each, how many unarmed, panicking people in the room can he take out?” It’s not the capacity of the magazines… it’s the lack of opposition in the room. The DC shooter several years ago took one shot at a time and instances are popping up all over the country of attackers being stopped or thwarted by responsible citizens who are armed… not the hip-holster swinging cowboys that the media is scaring people into believing will be walking down the streets.

  7. Chillbilly

    Chillbilly said, almost 4 years ago

    If one million political cartoons about gun violence are disseminated to fifty rigidly and unwaveringly opinionate people who read them, how many minds will be changed?

  8. lonecat

    lonecat said, almost 4 years ago

    Ain’t it the sign of a great society when we argue about how many guards with how much weaponry we want in elementary schools? Now that’s civilization for you!!!

  9. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, almost 4 years ago

    @Robert Landers

    And might I add to mickey’s comment, that a “shotgun” can also be loaded with non lethal beanbags that will put the man down long enough to gain control of the situation. However I would prefer that it be loaded with a slug so the solution is permanent.

    And putting an armed man in every classroom is not the way to do it. The very idea that there is just one armed guard on the grounds is deterrent enough to take that school off the list of “easy” targets for the majority of psychos that would attack innocent children.

    Design the schools so that the only way on and off the grounds will take one past security – be it camera, motion detector or guard or all three – will further reduce the vulnerability of the school.

    Cowards do not attack hard targets.

  10. jefferis

    jefferis GoComics PRO Member said, almost 4 years ago

    The correct answer is 1.

  11. ARodney

    ARodney said, almost 4 years ago

    A free country shouldn’t need its schools to be “hard targets.” It should make it impossible to own the tools to kill mass numbers of citizens.

  12. Justice22

    Justice22 said, almost 4 years ago

    As Mr. Trout points out, a 12 guage shotgun with 00 buckshot makes a great defensive weapon. The shell is loaded with 38 caliber shot which can kill at a range of over 100 yards. A colonel in Korea covered the retreat of his men with a pair of personal shotguns which his aide kept loading.
    The colonel was rewarded by the Medal of Honor. I don’t recall the Chinese body count but it was over 200.

  13. Rockngolfer

    Rockngolfer said, almost 4 years ago


    I used to have a 12 guage loaded with slugs as part of my “Hurricane Preparedness Kit”
    I also had a .22 longrifle.
    I think the shotgun had 248 times the impact of the .22.

  14. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, almost 4 years ago


    But Arod, if you continue to advertize that schools are “gun free zones” and make them desirable targets with easy access then the criminal that wants to make that statement will choose THAT target rather than one that has said and has evidence of one or more armed security or police (remember we already have school “resource” officers) in attendance.

    NO, you are correct a free country shouldn’t “need” to make a school a hard target. However, what you are suggesting is that when you make a law taking away the right to bear arms so that no one can legally have one then every person will voluntarily turn in all guns.

    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. – Thomas Jefferson

    What makes Jefferson’s statement wrong? Why do you think that criminals will obey yet another law?

  15. STLDan

    STLDan said, almost 4 years ago


    But what if the British come back? What if our government attacks us? I mean come on a bunch of citizens with AR-15s can easily defeat tanks and 50 cal machine guns so you cant be serious about taking away our right to assult weapons!. You are so unAmerican ARod, geez….

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