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  1. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

    I didn’t realize Carolinians were so ill-mannered.

  2. motivemagus

    motivemagus said, 2 months ago

    I grew up in North and South Carolina, and generally Southerners are well-mannered (so are New Englanders, where I was born and where I live now), but South Carolinian politicians have a long tradition of being “fire-eaters,” and indeed were the most obnoxious leading up to the Civil War; the most famous example of this was Preston Brooks beating Charles Sumner in 1856 with his cane so brutally that it took years of therapy for him to return to the Senate.

  3. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 2 months ago

    You know what would be nice?

    If this website didn’t have so many pop ups, pop unders, jump switchers and viruses! Holy crinkies!

    But thanks, Generalissimo Canuck! It’s so much easier to take you seriously now that you have called the populations of two states “ill-mannered” based on the information from one Representative.

    There’s the exercise of a clear thought process and the concise mind of scientist! Yeah!

    Yeah, real serious!

  4. iamthelorax

    iamthelorax said, 2 months ago

    Have any Democrats ever apologized for badmouthing Republicans? Dig deep enough and I’m sure you’ll catch them doing the same thing when they were the opposition.

    That guy *is* a punk, but it’s for apologizing. He should have just explained his outburst and left it at that.

    Even we bland Canadians’ politicians scream and shout during speeches.

  5. deadheadzan

    deadheadzanGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    It was said of South Carolina that it was too small for a nation and too large for an insane asylum. After all South Carolina was first to seceed from the Union and first to fire on the Union at Ft. Sumner. It is only expected that an African American president should be disrespected in this way from their lily white representative. I’m sure this will be applauded by some racists in the GOP. Abraham Lincoln would turn over in his grave to see who controls the GOP today.

  6. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    Try reading Kathleen Parker’s piece from the other day in the Washington Post, Now there’s one concervative a person can respect.

  7. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

    My personal experiences in the American southeast was ALWAYS of well-mannered, polite, and generous people, and I treasure many memories and friendships of my years there. My statement above concerning Wilson’s outburst was to contrast his boorish behaviour with the values of that fine culture.
    So lighten up, RV, until you know what I’m talking about.

  8. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 2 months ago

    No sir I will not lighten up on you.

    You make generalizations out of the flimsiest of data sets. Such as the one above (not to mention that South Carolina is in the south east, so what that has to do with the south west is anybodys’ guess what you’re “talking about”)

    I understood what you were referring to. And I understood you to comment that an unspecified number of “Carolinians” (as in more than just the one) are “so ill-mannered”

    Further we’ll need to take your comments in the context of the persona you have built for yourself here (one as a generalizing, elitist, condescending, anti America, provincial prig from Canada!) and as such it is only fair to interpret your dismissal as of not one but of all Carolinians.

    Of course you’ll never admit that you are wrong and you will either respond that you’ll now feel even freer to ignore me or you will try to weasel your way out by engaging in a blizzard of semantics based rhetoric.

    Hardly the level of thought that one would expect from a college professor. Somewhere there is BS to be called.

  9. Kingoswald

    KingoswaldGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    It was said of South Carolina that it was too small for a nation and too large for an insane asylum.

    Love it!

  10. Justice22

    Justice22 said, 2 months ago

    It seems Representative Wilson took a page from the Brits. I wonder if he likes their healthcare too?

  11. dwill

    dwill said, 2 months ago

    Such disrespect during a chief executive’s speech before a joint session of congress calls for censure. The G.O.P. has sunk to a new all time low.

  12. dwill

    dwill said, 2 months ago

    reasonsventriloquist: my viris scan has reported this an unsafe websight……..last visit here, looking for editorial cartoons elsewhere.

  13. meowdam

    meowdam said, 2 months ago

    Joe , Joe, Joe , what were you thinking , well at least now people all over the world know who you are.
    Talk about back firing, were you drunk? or just full of arrogance and stuffed to the brim with your own disinformation and rhetoric . Can I say “another nail in the GOP coffin “, you guys have become the political laughing stock of the world.
    Enjoy your vacation. You’ll make a great lobbiest in a year or two.
    Political suicide in front of both houses and the world! WOW
    EPIC.
    You sir are now defined forever you’ll never shake this . I’ll bet emails like mine outnumber your supporters 10 to 1.
    I’m off to have breakfast with my Thai friends and I’m sure you’ll be our topic this morning , they’ll ask me about “what Kind “of people come from S.C. and I’ll say most are nice and have manners and care about their neighbors. Most.
    Thank you for this thank you so much ,
    looking forward to your next campaign ,
    p.s. if you are a staffer reading this I’d dust off my resume if I were y’all. HAHA

  14. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    justice22, that occurred to me too … GOPers pick and choose when their principles apply or don’t apply depending upon the issue … oh shoot, I forgot, they don’t have any principles

    dwill, I think they still have a ways to sink … they haven’t won back their majority yet …

    Kingoswald, perhaps So. Carolina *is* an insane asylum

    AND

    here’s the transcript of Wilson’s statement to media today:

    Last night, I heard from the leadership that they wanted me to contact the White House and state that, uh, my statements were inappropriate and i did.

    wow … he said he had to be told to apologize and then justified his behavior by saying it was spontaneous … gee, I’m sure convinced he’s sincere…

  15. meowdam

    meowdam said, 2 months ago

    I tried to send this to ” YOU LIE , JOE ” but his congressional website is flooded ….. imagine .

  16. HOWGOZIT

    HOWGOZIT said, 2 months ago

    Who did Wilson think he was–Biden??

  17. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 2 months ago

    MEOWDAM: You do realize they do this, and much worse, on a weekly basis in England, right?

    And did any of you call for censure of Harry Reid when he called the President a liar on the Senate floor? (he never apologized). How about when they booed Bush? Commentators said it was unheard of (though I doubt it)

  18. meowdam

    meowdam said, 2 months ago

    MEOWDAM: You do realize they do this, and much worse, on a weekly basis in England, right?

    And this is relevant how ? Elitist peripheral royalty sniping at one and other. Hardly the same thing and an enormous non sequiter.

    And did any of you call for censure of Harry Reid when he called the President a liar on the Senate floor? (he never apologized). How about when they booed Bush? Commentators said it was unheard of (though I doubt it)

    Do you think the apology is the point?
    Bush booed - hahahahahaha .

    Uncanny your ability to miss the point, uncanny .

  19. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 2 months ago

    MEOWDAM: How am I missing the point? Reid called Bush a liar on the floor of the Senate and never apologized. A joint session of Congress is the same thing, but Congress invites a guest (it doesn’t have to be the President, BTW) to address them. It’s the exact same thing, only Obama was there, and Bush wasn’t. You just give Reid a pass because you agree with him.

    And you’re right– England isn’t relevant. But you’re the one who said Repubs were now the laughing stock of the world. Since their Parlement calls the PM names to his face once every week, I don’t think they care if one Senator called the President a name. So no, it’s not a non-sequiter.

  20. meowdam

    meowdam said, 2 months ago

    Again you see your side quite clearly

  21. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    church, while I won’t say the US congress is the laughing stock of the world, The rest of the world has enough of their own cranks, in the EU eyebrows are turned up.

  22. BOB HASTY

    BOB HASTYGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    A black President in the same room with whites from South Carolina???
    Just watch and listen! You can tell which one’s like to wear white sheets while waving the stars and bars.

    It is not a question of acting ill-mannered.
    It’s all about denying that they lost the civil war and demanding that the”black boy” goes away!

  23. HOWGOZIT

    HOWGOZIT said, 2 months ago

    meowdam is blind to truth. And as to HASTY–no help for him.

  24. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 2 months ago

    Little editing there huh DrCanuck? I guess that’s the way all Canadians are.

  25. ezdeb

    ezdeb said, 2 months ago

    Hey, here’s an idea!

    How about we don’t assume the moronic Sen. Wilson speaks for all republicans? He does, however, have support galore from the repub leadership.

    How about we don’t assume ANYONE represents EVERYONE? Obama doesn’t represent black people. Nancy Pelosi doesn’t represent democrats. Strom Thurmond doesn’t represent white people. Wilson doesn’t represent southerners. Rush Limbaugh doesn’t represent conservative people.

    It may feed some primitive lust to make comments like those I’m seeing above, but please try to put down the mudpies and back away.

    The first one to say in reply that “well, WE (those I claim to represent) are the good guys and THEY (those you detest) are bad, whole cloth, gets the Senator Wilson baby whiner award.

    And I don’t think for one minute that his outburst was not completely pre-planned. Note how none of those sitting around him look the least bit surprised. They knew he would yell out. It wasn’t an instant’s frustration at the president’s “lie”, but a calculated pander to the townhall crowd. IMHO

  26. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 2 months ago

    RV: Yes, I made an error and corrected it. You find fault with that, too?

  27. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 2 months ago

    It would have been nice (not to mention honest) if you had the decency to note the correction given that you were called on it.

    Did you cheat on your thesis too?

  28. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 2 months ago

    Ezdeb,

    Yes I’m a conspiratorialist at times and I think that Joe was a good soldier who took one for the team and now all the attention is on him and none of it is on Obama.

    Of course the Obama team wants to “put it behind us and move on” as if that’s remotely possible!

    Smack the guy hard and let the country know that you STAND somewhere for SOMETHING! You said you were going to call them out on their lies and then you are given the perfect opportunity to do so and what do you do? Nothing!

    Americans like winners! They fell for BO because he was a winner against all odds against Hillary. Since then he has not been a winner. He lost against Joe the friggin’ Plumber! Fortunately his lead was such that it didn’t completely derail him, but still it was one in the L column.

    He’s been racking up Fs (forfeits) in the L column since.

    He’s not even the guy making up what the contests are, someone else is calling his toon. It’s like the gunfighter yelling “Dance” at the hapless piano player.

  29. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 2 months ago

    I’m just sitting here listening to my popup blocker go Tick Tick Tick Tick.

    If I’m smart I’ll be outta here too. These guys have to do a better job at running this place.

    I mean I know it’s based on Uclick, and Uclick (IIRC) invented the cookie, but they ought to control this place. I’ve heard there are porn sites cleaner than this!

  30. ezdeb

    ezdeb said, 2 months ago

    Reasons, who, as a liberal, would I “smack hard” so people will know that I “stand somewhere for something”?

    Trite phrases are for lazy people. And the debate IS going on about illegal immigrants getting any federal funds. Senator Conrad discusses it again today. Your assertion that poor Sen “good ol’ Joe” Wilson is getting trashed while the president gets off scott free is just wrong. Even after specific language is tightened even more to NOT allow illegal immigrants access to federal subsidy, Wilson and his “smackdown” artists continue to say “Lies!Lies!”.

  31. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    meow, I tried to send Rep. Joe Wilson a message yesterday too, found his official web site down the entire day. It’s still down today, too. Found another site:

    http://www.joetheheckler.com/?gclid=CP-Kh8ms6pwCFShGagodcGNDkg

    i didn’t sign, not a big fan of these type of sites, but if others are … there it is!

  32. ReasonsVentriloquist

    ReasonsVentriloquist said, 2 months ago

    Jesus Christ, Ezdeb where’d you go to school, where DrCanuck is a professor?

    First off its not you who should smack hard it is the guy who said he was going to “call you out on those lies.” The guy who said that was Barack Obama, during his speech. And then the very same night he has the opportunity to “Call out” Joe Wilson and instead he says “We all make mistakes.”

    There’s a word for that, “Pussy!”

    I didn’t assert that “Sen’“good ol’ Joe’ Wilson is getting trashed while the president gets off scott free…” not in any way shape or form.

    I said the exact opposite of that. I said that Joe is taking one for the team (meaning he’s taking the beating so the team can advance) by drawing the media spotlight towards him and away from the content of Obama’s speech (as far as the water cooler discussion topic goes).

    Sloppy reading habits and reading with an ideology in one’s eye are for people who choose to remain ignorant.

    You did exactly what the right wingers do!

  33. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    church,

    1) yes, I’ve watched clips of England’s sessions and certainly don’t want the USA to emulate them

    2) If Harry Red made his comment on the senate floor during debate on legislation, it is most certainly NOT equal to shouting “You lie” during a presidential address to a joint session of congress. Surely you can discern the significance of the difference.

    Here is what Reid is quoted as saying: ”President Bush is a liar. He betrayed Nevada and he betrayed the country.”

    I’ve tried to find exactly where Harry Reid was when he said that … Do you a source for saying it occurred during floor debate on the Senate floor? (just asking cuz I couldn’t find it)

  34. ezdeb

    ezdeb said, 2 months ago

    “…and I think that Joe was a good soldier who took one for the team and now all the attention is on him and none of it is on Obama.”

    This wasn’t you? I misinterpreted this? OK, everyone, was it me? Or was Reasons a poor poster?

    Whaddevah.

  35. churchillwasright

    churchillwasright said, 2 months ago

    BCS: I’m going to have to apologize for being incorrect on that one. I can’t find it either. The best I could find was that Reid called Bush a liar either at some speech (where they fail to say where) or in an editorial he wrote, and then wouldn’t apologize for it on “Meet the Press”.

    But I stand by the story that Democrats loudly booed Bush during a State of the Union address, something that the commentators of the day all said was “unprecedented”. I still find that hard to believe, considering this is a body that, in the past, used to hit each other with canes, and (I think) had one Congressman shooting another. Of course you also have to bear in mind that they didn’t even have State of the Union addresses (in front of a Joint Session of Congress) between Thomas Jefferson and Wildrow Wilson, so that’s a whole lot of time not to get into a fracas).

    Do I think Charlie Wilson was disrespectful? Yes. Ill advised and counterproductive? Yes. Historic? Probably not. The worst thing in the world? No. He apologized to the Prez, he accepted it, let’s move on to the next food fight.

    Are you ever going to tell me whether you read my reply to you on Gorrell 9/4? You asked me to read yours, I replied, and now I’m following you around asking if you read it. I’m starting to feel (mildly) insulted.

  36. deadheadzan

    deadheadzanGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    I still assert that so much of this disrespect shown to Obama is racism pure and simple. It is almost beyond comprehension that those like Glen Beck can call for violence toward the President and get away with it. Would this be the case if a WASP was President. Kennedy was assasinated and he was a Roman Catholic. Would he have been assasinated if he had been a WASP?

  37. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, 2 months ago

    church, OK, I found what you found, including Meet the Press. Your acknowledgment is both accepted and appreciated.

    Also glad you found Wilson’s outburst disrespectful. On another post, I said i didn’t know if it was unprecedented in our nation’s history, only in modern history. Might have happened in previous century, another time

    I have occasionally felt insulted when someone i’ve enjoyed going back and forth with doesn’t respond, then I have to remind myself hey, this isn’t my ‘real’ life and it’s easy to lose track of where prior posts are.

    reGorrell 9/10, yes I will respond but I’m going to take the time to do it right, because there was much you missed in your recap. I will follow you around to let you know when I do. ;-D