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   danielsangeo said, 7 months ago

   Texas V. White (1869)

   “When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.”

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   harleyquinn said, 7 months ago

   States rights over big brother Federal. What a concept. I mean must Texas take the poison pill of the money that was collected from them, given back in the form of dept? I don’t think so.

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   Corosive Frog said, 7 months ago

   American version of Quebec, without hockey and without snow.

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   oldlegodad said, 7 months ago

   Texas does not have the “Treaty Right” to secede, but they can split into five states. That would give them TEN senators but no more representatives. Only problem is they all would want to keep the ALAMO.

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   tracht47 said, 7 months ago

   All this talk about secession is a lot of fantasyland nonsense from a bunch of whiny crybabies who can’t stand the fact that they lost an election. Get over it. You’re in the minority and you’re going to stay in the minority until you can come up with a constructive alternative.

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   cdward said, 7 months ago

   CF, I’ve been to Texas and I’ve been to Quebec. I’d trade them (I love hockey and snow). As I’ve said before, though I think the secession talk is a bunch of claptrap, I wouldn’t stand in their way. I have no interest in forcing them to be Americans. Only, I think Perry might have a hard time running for president with a secessionist background.

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   teaguemj said, 7 months ago

   CDward, You say you’d take Quebec, but you don’t say what part of Texas you went to! The panhandle is as cold as Canada in winter, the Hill country, as pretty as England, West Texas, as much a desert as any in AZ, or N.Mexico, complete with cactus, and sunsets. Texas is a whole other country. No need to ever leave!

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   Fairportfan said, 7 months ago

   “If i owned H*ll and Texas, I’d rent out Texas and live in H*ll.” -William Tecumseh Sherman

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   Fairportfan said, 7 months ago

   I must say that Governor Perry’s belief that Texas retained the right toleave the Union at will just shows two things about Texas and its Governors:
   (1) The People of Texas must love idiots - they elect so many of them
   and
   (2) They’d have done better for themselves if they’d elected Kinky Friedman last time ‘round.

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    danielsangeo said, 7 months ago

    “Texas is a whole other country.”

    Actually, it’s a member of the union we call the United States. “The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States.”

    You don’t get to secede without consent of the States or through revolution. Are you advocating for revolution against the United States?

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    deadheadzan said, 7 months ago

    When Perry gives back all Federal aid, social security, medicare, Federal programs like NASA and aid for hurricane and other natural disasters. then I’ll take him seriously- till then- no attention will be payed to this cry-baby.

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    Michigander said, 7 months ago

    If they secede from the union, they will be buttbuddies with the mideastern oil producing countries and let them set up their defense there against the rest of us!

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    cdward said, 7 months ago

    teaguemj, I was probably being a little too flip. I know Texas has beautiful places and wonderful people. (My brother and his family live in Ft. Worth). I’ve traveled around and would say that everywhere I’ve been has beautiful places and beautiful people. However, there are also those who make ridiculous statements like Rick Perry’s. Sometimes the entire place gets pegged with the sins of a few.
    
    But you do have to admit that a lot of Texans share some of the blame for an “Everything’s bigger in Texas” arrogance.

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    fritzoid said, 7 months ago

    If Texas could split up into 5 states, so could California. We have a greater population, after all. Depending on where we drew the boundary lines we’d probably still elect more Democrats than Republicans to office, unless the split were East/West rather than North/South. But then the Great State of East California would be a poor relation, compared to it’s wealthy coastal counterpart.

    But if Texas wants to go, as I’ve said elsewhere I’ll help them pack. We can make Washington DC a State, or Puerto Rico, so we don’t have to change the flag.

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    DALLASDAN said, 7 months ago

    If that punk Perry tries anything, I will be taking up arms for the Union. Glory glory hallelujah!

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    oldlegodad said, 7 months ago

    DallasDan, got tired of lurking? Good to have you back.
    fairportfan totally agree with your # 2 comment. Kinky for President 2012!!

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    Fairportfan said, 7 months ago

    fritzoid says:

    “If Texas could split up into 5 states, so could California.”
     
    No - Texas, while it didn’t reserve the right to secede {no matter what Gov Perry thinks}, did reserve the right to split into up to five smaller states.
     
    California didn’t.

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    cdward said, 7 months ago

    fairportfan, I’m not even sure Texas has that right anymore. That right was negotiated when it entered the union the first time. But after secession, it had to reenter with all the rest – and though I’m not sure and would be happy to have someone check on it – I believe all returning states were given the same conditions. So unless the re-negotiated that right, I’d bet not even that exists.

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    gbrucewilson said, 7 months ago

    Perry is just trying to make a point. He (and many governors) don’t want the feds forcing them to take money, telling them how to spend it and pulling the funds later but leaving the requirement. The feds have no money of their own. It all comes from the few of us who pay taxes.

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    Tigger said, 7 months ago

    I understand Ms. Palin, Governor of Alaska, also wants to Secede for The United States.

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    NoFearPup said, 7 months ago

    Why are Libs so angry? They must need looser under-pants…

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    Tigger said, 7 months ago

    Pup,

    It’s the Conservatives who are Angry. You and Andy are extremely Angry, Guess you and Andy are Liberals.

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    senorbullwinkle said, 7 months ago

    HEY, no brain pup, why dont you pray to your little plaster man, and see what he says !

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    tpenna said, 7 months ago

    Well, to be perfectly fair, Senorbullwinkle continually makes angry and caustic remarks. I don’t think these kind of comments really help us liberals to move the conversation in a good direction.

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    senorbullwinkle said, 7 months ago

    tpenna, Oh, you mean I’m like nofearpup, only I dont sound like a thumb sucking child, “under pants” indeed !

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    Greeneyed Texan said, 7 months ago

    I think reading all these posts that there are a lot of angry people on both sides. I did not vote for this Prez but he is our Prez and we must support him and show respect for the office. The Congress is the biggest problems that needs work to start with term limits and no retirement benefits. Then they really work for the taxpayers.

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    longtimecomicsfan said, 7 months ago

    NoFearPup-

    I’m not sure how you can read StewieZ’s moniker and conclude that it’s the Libs that are angry…

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    danielsangeo said, 7 months ago

    “The Congress is the biggest problems that needs work to start with term limits and no retirement benefits. Then they really work for the taxpayers.”

    Term limits and no retirement benefits won’t work.