Henry Payne by Henry Payne

Henry Payne

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  1. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    And it’s driving Republicans NUTS! (as posted elsewhere in comments!) Back to Number ONE in the world again.

  2. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, about 3 years ago

    Ford is actually doing even better, and they didn’t need a taxpayer funded bailout.

  3. CasualBrowser

    CasualBrowser said, about 3 years ago

    Remember that Ford was also a proponent of the GM/Chrysler bailout. What did they get from it? They got parts suppliers who were still operating to sell Ford parts – the same suppliers sell to all three, and many would not have survived had G and C gone under. So Ford’s financial health and very survival had a vested interest in the other two companies being bailed out…much like the financial health of the US.

  4. Tax Man

    Tax Man said, about 3 years ago

    They would not have gone under. They could have filed for bankruptcy (which they did anyway), reorganized and continued operations. The difference is that it would have happened according to law instead of violating the bankruptcy laws. It also would not have cost the taxpayers anything. But we had to put the labor unions first and foremost because the were the great supporters of lawless Obama.

  5. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 said, about 3 years ago


    no Trout you are wrong …. about republicans. They are happy to see any US manufacturing company do well.

    It’s just a shame that it took a flooded out Japan, 49 billion tax dollars (13 billion of which came from Bush) and a 79% increase in fleet sales to the government.

    Look it up.

    That is not to say that Ford – currently number 2 – doesn’t do fleet sales to the government however, it needed NO FUNDS from the government to continue in business.

    So no, we are all happy that GM is still in business and doing well.

  6. Stipple

    Stipple said, about 3 years ago

    I had a similar car when the children were still young.
    Oh man, going to work was fun, coming home was fun.
    High speed runs to the Yukon river on the haul road were heaven in a can.
    Attitude adjustment double plus good.

  7. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, about 3 years ago


    Good comment, CasualBrowser.
    If memory serves, GM and Chrysler looked desperately for loans prior to the very reluctant gov’t bailing them out, and the bail out occurred as much to rescue the parts suppliers as it was to protect the car companies and their pensioners. Had the bankruptcy occurred, tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands would have lost their retirement benefits and that many more Americans would have immediately been on gov’t handouts.
    Thank you for reminding us that Ford had an interest in the survival of their competition.

  8. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, about 3 years ago

    Also, remember that Ford almost moved itself into bankruptcy by concentrating only on big pickup trucks and Suburban Assault Vehicles. When they realized that passenger cars were still desired by the American public, they took out the loans necessary to re-tool. At that time, the economy had not yet tanked to the point that the banks used their bailout money to ensure that no one could get a loan, which happened to GM and Chrysler, as well as to millions of small-business owners who ponied up tax dollars to save the banks, only to get the back of the banks’ hand when asking for loans.

  9. Respectful Troll

    Respectful Troll said, about 3 years ago

    Thank you for the link Harley.
    It was a good article, but in checking some of the statements made, found it to be incomplete. The gov’t is projected to have lost 14 billion in the bailout but it is projected that the losses to Americans and american business would surpass the original 50 billion given by over twice.
    When Lee Iaccoca rescued Chrysler after they got a gov’t bailout, I don’t recall any of the vitriol that these bailouts garnered. Fourteen billion is less than what the US paid in disaster aid in 2012 for fires, hurricanes, floods, etc. American’s paid less than 100 each in order to save to car companies and countless small businesses as well as protecting the pensioners.
    That’s less than the cost of one month of telephone/cable/internet service and it kept all of those people in the tax paying group with good jobs.
    It’s more than worth it to me.

  10. mikefive

    mikefive said, about 3 years ago


    The only technology that I know of on the horizon that might make electric vehicles truly practical are nano tube batteries. Until that time, all we really have are underpowered hybrids or limited range electrics and they are both over-priced. Tesla is the only electric with any range, but you’re right, Harley. Teslas are pricey at $59,000 to $94,000 for the sedan.

  11. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    Ahab: I assume you’re aware that Ford got huge bucks from the government for “alternative vehicle development”, just like Tesla, but Tesla has paid the money back.

    The owner of Tesla is starting a cross-country tour in their new sedan, and he’s established the “fueling stations” across the country to help boost the market.

    AND, speaking of “boost”, folks ARE aware that same owner of Tesla also owns the company that is now PRIVATELY under contract to deliver supplies to the International Space Station, and like Rutan/Branson, is getting ready to enter the space tourism business!

    Combining marketing, and engineering, genius, is what built American business, NOT tax breaks, elimination of union labor, or overseas banking of profits to stash the cash, and cost the country!

  12. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    ^^It’s been well over a year, maybe two, since our local dealer (who sold out) had one in, but the last time I looked at a Cadillac Escalade, it was right at $63,000!! Ah, for the days when a BMW 2002 was only about three grand! My buddy always liked BMW’s now has a 5 series station wagon, but he got it off E-Bay used, and got a good deal.

    OR, remember the DKW’s, first front wheel drive in the U.S., three cylinder two-stroke engines! Of course, while folks may not know what a “Deek” was, they may know it’s grandkids, they’re now called Audis! (Which, Audi now has a very fast hybrid racing prototype, as does Toyota.)

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