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jack75287 said, 4 months ago
This is so right on the money. Back in the day I heard my generation saw over 25000 murders and violent deaths on TV and the movies by the time we were 18. Now with video games and a lot more to watch on TV, I have heard it is like 300,000.
ReasonsVentriloquist said, 4 months ago
@jack75287
“This is so right on the money.”
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No. It’s not.
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The typical “Action Hero” movie star is an outspoken right wing nut job. Arnold isn’t telling anybody to call their Congressperson about controlling guns. Bruce Willis isn’t either. Neither is Slyvester Stallone.
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MAYBE, Jason Bourne star Matt Damon MIGHT say something. But that is the exception that proves the rule.
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The cartoon Might make more sense if it was the producer of the movie “Bucket of Blood” or the Director of the movie telling you to call your congressperson about restricting guns. But that’s not what was said.
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And that’s why it is not “…so right on the money.”
DGF999 said, 4 months ago
@ReasonsVentriloquist
Neither the cartoon, nor jack said anything about left or right wing politics here. It’s true that Hollywood is in a constant struggle to outdo the last violent movie with an even more violent movie. The movie stars (Liberal and conservative) promote these movies, but their hypocracy shows when they support gun control measures. Violent movies feed the nut-jobs that massacre people…
STLDan said, 4 months ago
If you are allowing your children to watch these types of movies maybe you better blame yourself and not Hollywood.
Radish
said, 4 months ago
You know there are right wingers in Hollywood too,
Charelton Heston.Red Dawn and Atlas Shrugged were not made by someone on the left.
Robert Landers said, 4 months ago
@DGF999
Hey, if you do not realize that these are movies with stunt people shooting blanks, or even more silly, if you do not realize that the video games are killing only screen pixels on your TV or computer monitor, then you are just plain living in a non real fantasy world even greater than the movies themselves.
There is a truly VAST difference between viewing such violence and actually taking a gun out (or any other weapon such as a knife, or even a baseball bat) and either killing someone else, or maiming them for life.
And if you do not believe that, then perhaps you should ask the literally thousands of people in our prisons that have done that sort of violence, especially in a fit of anger, and are now living out their lives in total misery!!
jack75287 said, 4 months ago
@Robert Landers
Valid points but let’s face it both the guy in Colorado and in Newtown and the kids who caused the Columbine incident all played these video games.
Yes “non real fantasy world” becomes very real to some people and those are the ones who need to be watched.
ReasonsVentriloquist said, 4 months ago
@DGF999
I used to be Dred.
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So… what… I’m supposed to read everything in a vacuum and there is no frame of reference whatsoever?
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Henry Payne may be so stupid as to conflate the action hero star as the stereotypical left wing “Artiste” but that doesn’t mean that I have to be just as stupid.
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Clint Eastwood starred in how many shoot em ups? And where was he this summer? Oh yeah, that’s right, he was at the Republican National Convention arguing with a chair.
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Tell me which actor “Joe Hollywood” represents. Eddy Murphy?
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“Violent movies feed the nut-jobs that massacre people…”
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Careful there, you’re starting to sound like one of those knee jerk Liberals that misdefined the left in the mid to late ’70s.
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And if you are right, that people that go to those movies are potential killers, then we had better start collecting the guns with both hands right now! Because a whole lot of people go to see those movies!
dtroutma
said, 4 months ago
John Wayne was originally intended by the studio to be “the singing cowboy” (Gene Autry took that over), and in his first movies he was hilarious, but still “blew away” all the bad guys. In the early Tarzan movies, Tarzan fought the “Europeans” who came to Africa with the concept of killing anything that moved, animals, or natives, or Tarzan. Violence in the movies is certainly NOT a new phenominan.
Martial arts movies are also pretty funny, because the fights last “forever”, when in actuality, most techniques I was taught outside the “sport edition”, would be lethal blows, taught for combat, not movies.
But it remains, the best martial arts expert in the world, can’t kill a man from 30 yards away. That’s not at all difficult with a rifle. The fact movies also show the “bad guys” always miss with automatic rifles, while the “good guy” picks them off, even with a muzzle loader, in games, and movies, does promote more violence, because it doesn’t reflect the reality.
cubefarmer said, 4 months ago
@Radish
And they’re not being hypocrites running around with their armed escort demanding we the people be banned from defending ourselves.
ReasonsVentriloquist said, 4 months ago
@dtroutma
“But it remains, the best martial arts expert in the world, can’t kill a man from 30 yards away.”
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Picture… A man with a bullwhip and a fist fighting off martial artists singularly and in groups.
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Suddenly, the crowd separates and a MA appears with a scimitar. He flourishes and brandishes it with great skill. Certainly the bullwhip and the fist can’t overcome this flashing edge of razor sharp death.
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The man pulls out his pistol and shoots the swordsman dead before he can make a step forward.
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End Scene!
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The guy who used to be Dredpiraterobt$ (AKA RV) is still waiting for one someone to tell us which of the Macho men action heroes is being represented by “Joe Hollywood” above.
Robert Landers said, 4 months ago
@jack75287
I have no problem with such watching. But just as the pro gun types say “Guns do not kill people, people do!” then it would equally valid to state “Violent movies and video games do not kill people, people do!”
When I was a youngster (as I am 70 that was quite a long time ago) we used to play cowboys and Indians, or even soldiers, and the intent of our play was certainly violent in nature. But even though I do support the peoples right to own reasonable guns, I do not at present even own one!
dtroutma
said, 4 months ago
RV: that scene from “Indiana Jones” was one of my very favorite, ever! And, the story behind it is better. Harrison Ford was feeling terrible, dysenttary I believe, and when the scene came up, he wasn’t supposed to use the pistol, but thought “Hey, Indy’s got a gun and bullet, the other guy has a sword, what makes sense?” The kept the ad lib in the movie.
When my bayonet instructor said that if they bayonet got stuck, just shoot the guy off. I replied, “If I had a bullet left, why would I be close enough for a bayonet?”
Reality occasionally sneaks into movies.
rightisright said, 4 months ago
@ReasonsVentriloquist
Tell me which actor “Joe Hollywood” represents. Eddy Murphy?
Brad Pitt comes to mind, he’s in plenty of violent movies and is a solid kool-aid swilling libtard. His squeeze Angelina ran around in shorts with two giant guns.
ReasonsVentriloquist said, 4 months ago
@rightisright
Great, now can you show me where Brad Pitt is telling anyone to call their congressman about gun control?
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Another guy who comes to Mind is Sean Penn, now starring in a Hollywood mob movie.
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However calling the exception the rule is a typical stall tactic of those interested in NOT finding a solution to the problem.
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I ask you in all sincerity rightisright, why do you continue to aid and abet murderers? There is a solution that allows you to keep your firepower while making that firepower unaccessable to those that would abuse it. We have the technology.
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And since I haven’t told you directly, so there won’t be confusion, I am the same guy that used to post as Dredpiraterobt$. Now you know.