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That’s a bit simplistic and probably inaccurate. Unions in many ways have priced themselves out of the market, especially for production business’s. Clinton opened the WTO to China and ramrodded NAFTA and American labor has obviously suffered declines due to out sourcing ever since. Unfortunately we live in a global economy and America no longer has the infrastructure to manufacture as we used to. Add to that America’s desire for cheaper products. You think they are willing to pay substantially higher prices for consumer goods made inside the U.S. ? Unlikely. The unions growing the fastest are the public sector, the private sector base is shrinking. Public sector unions are facing a difficult future with so many municipalities that cannot afford the benefit and retirement funding…
Unless you first consider Neoconman’s remarks to be anything but pure sarcasm, then you should probably not take him seriously.
Besides, that is a remarkable answer from you if you take him seriously, as you sound as if such times were not actually the heaven that some ultra conservatives think it was, which it certainly was not.
Heck, you could even add child labor, and a life expectancy of about half of today’s and you might have such times in your grasp!!
Okay folks, lets get real. The rules and regulations in force for labor are so onerous and detailed that the extreme case presented above is ridiculous. The LAWS on the books that regulate minimum wage, workman’s comp, safety conditions both environmental and mechanical are well established and have no relationship to a union influence. I worked in corporate accounting for years and believe me, the agencies that control those issues are powerful and maintain one of the highest minimum standards for health and safety of any country in the world. The unions have effectively priced themselves out of a market in the world economy we exist in today. Recently at the Port of Los Angeles, union CLERKS struck over their wage package of $165,000 a year, and guarantees that their jobs could never be eliminated or converted to a non union position. The new package would put them at $195,000 per year, all wages and benefits included. Do you wonder why shipping companies promote and pay for expansion of right to work states with ocean ports on the east coast? They are constantly expanding and upgrading the capacity of the Panama Canal for just that purpose. It’s pure competition in a world trade environment
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NeoconMan said, 6 months ago
Great. Now bring back the 60 hour week, no paid holidays, and get rid of minimum wage and American Business will thrive again.
mickey1339
said, 6 months ago
That’s a bit simplistic and probably inaccurate. Unions in many ways have priced themselves out of the market, especially for production business’s. Clinton opened the WTO to China and ramrodded NAFTA and American labor has obviously suffered declines due to out sourcing ever since. Unfortunately we live in a global economy and America no longer has the infrastructure to manufacture as we used to. Add to that America’s desire for cheaper products. You think they are willing to pay substantially higher prices for consumer goods made inside the U.S. ? Unlikely. The unions growing the fastest are the public sector, the private sector base is shrinking. Public sector unions are facing a difficult future with so many municipalities that cannot afford the benefit and retirement funding…
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/union2.pdf
Robert Landers said, 6 months ago
@HOWGOZIT
Unless you first consider Neoconman’s remarks to be anything but pure sarcasm, then you should probably not take him seriously.
Besides, that is a remarkable answer from you if you take him seriously, as you sound as if such times were not actually the heaven that some ultra conservatives think it was, which it certainly was not.
Heck, you could even add child labor, and a life expectancy of about half of today’s and you might have such times in your grasp!!
indieme
said, 6 months ago
Right to work for low wages, no insurance, no pension, no safety. Right!
mickey1339
said, 6 months ago
Okay folks, lets get real. The rules and regulations in force for labor are so onerous and detailed that the extreme case presented above is ridiculous. The LAWS on the books that regulate minimum wage, workman’s comp, safety conditions both environmental and mechanical are well established and have no relationship to a union influence. I worked in corporate accounting for years and believe me, the agencies that control those issues are powerful and maintain one of the highest minimum standards for health and safety of any country in the world.
The unions have effectively priced themselves out of a market in the world economy we exist in today. Recently at the Port of Los Angeles, union CLERKS struck over their wage package of $165,000 a year, and guarantees that their jobs could never be eliminated or converted to a non union position. The new package would put them at $195,000 per year, all wages and benefits included. Do you wonder why shipping companies promote and pay for expansion of right to work states with ocean ports on the east coast? They are constantly expanding and upgrading the capacity of the Panama Canal for just that purpose. It’s pure competition in a world trade environment
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/04/business/la-fi-ports-strike-20121205
Radish
said, 6 months ago
cjr53 said, 6 months ago
Will wages and conditions become so bad again that even illegal aliens won’t take the jobs.?
cjr53 said, 6 months ago
One of the things I’ve noted about republicans is they tend to think and speak as if everyone can be a multimillion dollar CEO.
ConserveGov said, 6 months ago
@cjr53
The thing I’ve noticed about Dems is they tend to think everybody is a victim and that people cannot work hard to improve their situation.
Rockngolfer said, 6 months ago
Print up your 1099 forms or just take cash under the table.
Nine dollars an hour is going to look good.
Radish
said, 6 months ago
@HOWGOZIT
Conditions are not great for workers today but you are against unions?
ahab
said, 6 months ago
@Radish
Wow, a real disconnect between generations.
Ms. Ima said, 6 months ago
@NeoconMan
That’s called ‘salary’. If you don’t like it get a union job.
Ms. Ima said, 6 months ago
@Radish
You have convinced me to vote Republican.
Eryx
said, 6 months ago
But this time, the rats won’t win.