Henry Payne by Henry Payne

Henry Payne

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  1. Beau Nobo

    Beau Nobo said, 1 day ago

    The usual.

  2. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, 1 day ago

    Yep, those 35-50 permanent jobs bringing America down.


    How many have lost their jobs as the price of oil drops? How much a barrel does it cost to break even on tar sands??

  3. Crosspatch

    Crosspatch said, 1 day ago

    Another sheeple whine about a small handfull of perminante jobs from a pipeline that will be never used
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    The Saudi’s are forcing down oil prices to make A: Tars Sands Bitumin to costly to extract and B: They fear high oil prices are pushing the development a utilization of Renewable Energy sources.
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    Facts are renewable energy has gone from .7% in 2000 to 15% in 2013, globally we see 23% of our Energy needs from Renewables today.
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    By 2030 Coal will be useless, 2050 Oil in Energy and transportation is down to 15% of todays demand.
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    Keystone will not “Create” significate numbers of Perminante Jobs, oil shipments sent through pipelines are causing massive pollution and destruction the sheeple belief that it is safer is a myth at least when a truck turns over we see the spill immediately, by the time their finding out their pipeline has leaked it has spilled Millions and Tar Sands Bitumin is impossable to clean up once it’s spilled.

  4. Crosspatch

    Crosspatch said, 1 day ago

    Dont forget it’s not the “Middle Class” thats blocking it it’s Rachers and farmers who’s land is being stolen to gift the foreign Corporate interests that want to stick the Ameircan taxpayers with the bill to clean up their future messes.

  5. ConserveGov

    ConserveGov said, 1 day ago

    dtroutma said, 16 minutes ago
    Yep, those 35-50 permanent jobs bringing America down.

    How many have lost their jobs as the price of oil drops? How much a barrel does it cost to break even on tar sands??—————————————————————/-/
    It’s called construction kiddo!
    These are THOUSANDS of high-paying jobs for years!
    Yes, once it’s built, those workers go onto other jobs. Get it?
    Sorry they aren’t gov’ment jobs where u sit around for 20 years doing very little for a comfy paycheck supplied by taxpayers.

  6. mikefive

    mikefive said, 1 day ago

    Using jobs as an argument against the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline yet advocating construction of infrastructure seems incongruous.

  7. avarner

    avarner said, 1 day ago

    It’s all about the prez having his way..

    Nothing more. Nothing less.

  8. ODon

    ODon said, 1 day ago

    @mikefive

    Let’s put lot’s of people to work on rebuilding infrastructure which gives the country a long term benefit devoid of the chance of a major ecological disaster. Roads, electrical grid, etc.
    Does that work better?

  9. I Play One On TV

    I Play One On TV said, 1 day ago

    @mikefive

    The difference is that construction/repair of infrastructure is demonstrably necessary.

    I will turn this backwards and say that those who advocate for this pipeline because of all the jobs it will create and still advocate against infrastructure improvement are far more incongruous.

  10. Ted Lind

    Ted Lind GoComics PRO Member said, 1 day ago

    The problem is Keystone is important only to Canada and the oil companies who what to ship more oil off shore. It is a risk to the environment since pipeline operators don’t seem to be able to detect leaks that are less than 50,000 barrels of oil. It creates little in the way of permanent jobs.

  11. grenjello

    grenjello said, 1 day ago

    If this thing was so safe how come the Canadians did not want it int their own back yard?

  12. Baslim the begger says, "The past is the enemy of the future."

    Baslim the begger says, "The past is the enemy of the future." GoComics PRO Member said, 1 day ago

    Usual stupidity. Most of the pipeline is done already. the XL is simply a larger, and shorter section of pipeline to replace an existing section.

    It took only two years to build the longer section.
    So two years (at most) of employment for a limited number of people (that number is always exaggerated by supporters) and maybe 50 more permanent jobs.

    From the Wikipedia article on the Keystone Pipeline, including map of pipeline:

    The first two phases have the capacity to deliver up to 590,000 barrels per day (94,000 m3/d) of oil into the Mid-West refineries. Phase III has capacity to deliver up to 700,000 barrels per day (110,000 m3/d) to the Texas refineries.10 By comparison, U.S. oil production was about 9,000,000 barrels per day (1,400,000 m3/d) in early November, 2014;11 and in the preceding twelve months through August 2014, the US imported an average of about 7.5 million barrels of oil per day.

    So even if that very heavy crude is shipped, it doesn’t mean energy independence for the US (especially since a lot of it will originate in Canada, and therefore qualifies as an import, thus raising that 7.5 million barrels a day of imports. Shipping it overseas would remove that as an import, but would do little for the US balance of oil import/export.

    I think most people don’t figure in the addition of oil from Montana, which helps make a more fluid material to transport. Most of the material will still be from Canada, though.


    Note, I am not actually opposed to construction of a pipeline, as long as it is done with the certainty of a pipe failure in mind. That means a more expensive, thicker pipeline material and more safety and maintenance (which means more permanent employment). Shipping oil by train or truck is not as safe.

    Nevertheless, one of the largest spills in recent history dumped a large amount of the same material to be shipped in the XL pipeline into an American river. And that was a smaller diameter pipe. I am opposed to the righties making dumb arguments to shove an unsafe pipeline. Do it correctly, or don’t do it.

    Fixing infrastructure in this country would take more than two years and employ a much greater number of people, mike. And serve the interests of everyone.

  13. zippy06

    zippy06 said, 1 day ago

    @dtroutma

    Bet those guys get their real jobs back.
    In the spring, when they raise taxes on gas. To fix all the roads.
    In MI it is said they could start repairing/rebuilding, and by time they are done, or think they are done. The road rebuilding could start all over again.

  14. retpost

    retpost said, 1 day ago

    The government jobs where they sit around foe years and do nothing is called CONGRESS.

  15. s49nav

    s49nav said, 1 day ago

    Liberals bleat incessantly about the need for infrastructure, unless that infrastructure is Keystone.

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