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Glenn McCoy

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  1. Fuzzy Thinker (I)

    Fuzzy Thinker (I) GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    I was expecting the ‘hoof in mouth’ side of Biden. Perhaps the Cattlemen’s Association is sensitive about that ever since the popularity of billboards for ‘eat more chicken’.

  2. disgustedtaxpayer

    disgustedtaxpayer said, almost 2 years ago

    McCoy….Best VP toon of all…LOL
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    I’m printing this to tape to the side of my TV tonight.

  3. Dredpiraterobt$

    Dredpiraterobt$ said, almost 2 years ago

    Ryan is goig to “do the Math”?
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    I highly doubt it. Because if he wouldn’t do it for a friendly audience like Chris Wallace on Fox news, he sure as heck doesn’t want Biden and America to pick it apart on a debate.
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    Not to mention: IT CAN’T WORK!
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    You can’t cut everybodies tax rate by 20%, and pay for it by “Closing loopholes and capping deductions” without SOMEBODY needs to be paying a whole lot more in taxes! Unless it’s NOT “Revenue Neutral”.
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    Either way, I want to know if you’re going to raise my taxes before you do it! I want you to be honest enough to say, “Yeah, dred, you’re going to pay a lot more in taxes, even though your tax rate went down!”
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    I’d like just one of those that come here to explain HOW it could possibly work!

  4. Machado

    Machado GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    Obama, dressed in similar fashion is off screen making the pies..LOL

  5. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @Dredpiraterobt$

    You have some very good questions. Since I don’t know the tax code that well – since my deductions are just the standard ones and my loopholes are all attached to my boots – I too would like clarification.

    But I ask you this, how do you reduce a deficit of over a trillion dollars a year, start paying down the 16 trillion dollar debt by raising taxes on the rich – an action that the CBO says will raise 70 to 80 billion a year?

    It seems to me both parties need to explain their plan a tad bit more.

    One thing you know. Then plan that Obama has worked for the last 3.5 years has NOT cut the deficit in half as promised and HAS added over 5 trillion dollars to the debt.

  6. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    The ’toon is funny because Ryan actually has nada, not a thing, of substance to put on that blackboard. His sole response to media for months has been, “details will come out in the debates, and AFTER we get in office.” and this is from the dudes who criticize Pelosi on statements regarding the CONGRESSIONALLY PASSED health care bill???

  7. Dredpiraterobt$

    Dredpiraterobt$ said, almost 2 years ago

    @Bruce4671

    “Then plan that Obama has worked for the last 3.5 years has NOT cut the deficit in half as promised and HAS added over 5 trillion dollars to the debt.”
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    That is just flat out WRONG Bruce4671.
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    Obama has actually cut the deficit from when he took office. In absolute numbers the deficit is lower today than it was.
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    In inflation adjusted numbers, or should we say in deflated dollar value numbers, the deficit is even lower.
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    As a percentage of the GDP the deficit is lower.
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    All of that contributes to reducing the debt long term.
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    Let’s look at it this way. We can borrow money now for the next 30 years at less than 3% (Which should show you what the real money thinks of the USA’s future)
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    Which makes more sense? Raising taxes or borrowing more money?
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    Which would you rather see us do?
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    If we want prosperity in the future this nation needs to do what every successful nation throughout history has done. We need to invest in our future. Where will we get the money to do that, Bruce4671? Prosperity is what will bring about the rise in revenues that will result in the deficit dropping to a lowere and lower percentage of our GDP.
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    Tax cuts do not bring about prosperity. Tax cuts encourage hoarding because if you get to keep all the money anyway, there is no need to take on the additional risk to get the net resultant gain! Andrew Carnegie said, “I don’t know the seven wonders of the world, but I know the eighth; Compound Interest!” and he said “All I need to do is beat inflation by 3 percentage points!” It is those truisms that prove the point about Low taxes and Hoarding of cash.
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    Raising taxes is not just about raising revenue, although it is a sign of good faith that those who contol so much of the nation’s wealth see America as something worth paying for (Freedom isn’t free, is it?)
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    But raising taxes makes direct investment more profittable as compared with paper investment. Raising taxes takes away that buffer between low return and beating inflation by 3 percentage points.
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    Here you go Barack Obama tax plans
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    And here you go Mitt Romney’s Tax plan
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    BTW, learn to make a link wouldja?
    It looks like this (watch it not work)
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    the words you want to describe the link<“/a”> Minus the " " before and after the /a. But don’t forget the " " around the url

  8. Dredpiraterobt$

    Dredpiraterobt$ said, almost 2 years ago

    Knew it wouldn’t work… one of these < and the an A space href=“the url”> plus the above after the >

  9. Bruce4671

    Bruce4671 GoComics PRO Member said, almost 2 years ago

    @Dredpiraterobt$

    Thanks for the link info. I’ll try but your explanation is more than my senior citizen mind is comfortable with. …and you were right I couln’t do it. I’ll go to my HTML tutorial and try to find it later.

    Now go here and then tell me that the record shows Obama cutting the deficit in half.

    http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html

    OK no one is saying they will borrow more money EXCEPT Obama. I read his tax plan and his comments about Romney’s plan and his comments are just not true.

    So we are not going to agree on that. But I have no animosity about it, we just don’t agree.

    Raising taxes on the “wealthy” will raise taxes on every business owner that reports 250K of income. Those business people are middle class.

    Obama gave us a tax break by reducing the “payroll” tax, the tax that funds Social Security and extending the bush tax cuts. Both things bad moves.

    Raising taxes on the wealthy is only going to net 70-80 billion a year according to the CBO. So how is that going to reduce the deficit? It doesn’t even cover a quarter of the SERVICE on the debt.

    And both guys will still run a deficit.

    Sorry I trust a man who has a proven business record IN the field of Job creation/saving with an 80% success rate that even Clinton said was a sterling record OVER a man with no business experience that has not produced results that indicate he knows how to increase recovery. It’s been the same for four years. And if truth were told his numbers are cooked (yes just like they are always done by both sides) and do not reflect the real life situation.

    Take a look at this:

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this-chart-illustrating-the-difference-between-job-growth-welfare-participation-over-the-last-four-years-is-terrible/

    I agree that those with the wealth should be doing more. But I disagree that it should be in the form of taxes. The ones with the wealth should be the ones investing in the countries future not the government

  10. Dredpiraterobt$

    Dredpiraterobt$ said, almost 2 years ago

    @Bruce4671

    “…Since I don’t know the tax code that well – "
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    “Raising taxes on the “wealthy” will raise taxes on every business owner that reports 250K of income. Those business people are middle class. "

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    You’re right, you don’t know the tax code that well.
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    First of all, understand that there is no better tax shelter than a small business! An “entrepeneur” can “lose” ALL KINDS of money into a small business. I had a guy the other day telling me how I could self insure my business in a way that would take about a quarter million dollars per year out of my businesses income pretax!
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    Then he told me about another plan that could reduce my reported income by a similar ammount.
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    The beauty of these two plans is that I could then “borrow” against those plans and give myself the income tax free because it was a loan and not technically income!
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    All very legal. All very smart!
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    As to Obama cutting the deficit by 50%. No He has not done that. But that doesn’t mean that he has been increasing the deficit, and in fact he has reduced it. In these times, when so many people are still unemployed and the world economy is crumbling around the USA, he has cut back the deficit. It’s pretty impressive, in any case. It certainly belies the notion that he is a big spender.
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    I asked you which makes more sense, to you, borrowing more or raising taxes. I ask you specifically, which one do you, Bruce4671, think we ought to do?
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    “Obama gave us a tax break by reducing the “payroll” tax, the tax that funds Social Security and extending the bush tax cuts. Both things bad moves.”
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    The payroll tax break is a, “Bad move,” as evidenced by what? By the fact that it underfunds the SSI “Trust”? Well what rate is the SSI “Trust” earning at? And what rate has the ecnomy grown at (not what is it’s growth rate, what is the net change in the growth rate? Considering we had negative numbers before the cut.) We’re talking like 2.5% vs 6%.
    That doesn’t qualify it as a “Bad Move”.
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    As far as the Bush Tax cuts go,;
    1. As if he had a choice! The Republicans love to forget that there was no way Obama was going to be able to let them just expire.
    2. Because the tax package was DESIGNED to be a time bomb for the next president (who they knew was either going to be a Democrat or a fall guy Republican by the name of John McCain) Letting it expire meant an end to things like 529plans for education and a return to the $600,000 personal exemption for estates and a ton of other things that nobody wanted to do.
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    The Bush Tax plan was the end game for Starve The Beast (I can hear the crickets now). You open that package and say "Which do we want to save? The Higher exemption for estate taxes or college savings plans 529 (which, BTW are the greatest estate tax exemption scheme for moderate estates that has ever been devised! Education is the last thing you’d wisely use one of those things for!)
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    It is full of dilemmas. It is supposed to be full of dilemmas and dichotomies.
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    Obama had no choice but to kick that can down the road.It was a lose lose proposition crafted by your friends the NeoCon Think Tanks. (When you think NeoCon Think Tanks, think NeoCon think TANKS!)

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    “Raising taxes on the wealthy is only going to net 70-80 billion a year according to the CBO. So how is that going to reduce the deficit? "
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    There are SO many answers to this Bruce4671! The first one being… So raising $80Billion no big deal. Cutting PBS! ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE DONE! Double standard much?
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    Beyond this, however are the answers that include the corallaries to “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself!”
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    There are two emotions that drive the markets, Fear and Greed. We can’t stop the fear unless we do SOMETHING about the Greed! The Fact that there is an aristocracy in this nation hell bent on creating a plutocracy so that they will never be legally challenged on their kleptocratic ways puts a pall of fear over the markets (and I don’t only refer to the stock and bond markets I mean all markets, including the “free market of ideas”)
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    ."Sorry I trust a man who has a proven business record… "
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    Except I have seen no evidence that shows me that you know this to be true. I have not seen you challenge the assumption of Romney’s “business success” and I have not seen you refute the observations that Romney has not been a successful “job creator.”
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    Romney has a long record of buying leveraging and bankrupting companies. it’s the way the M&E game was played back in the day. You buy a company, borrow a ridiculous amount of money against it, pay the management that helped you take over the company, and then start cost cutting measures (in the meetings, you tell the salesmen that the changes are “Revenue Neutral” I’ve been in the meetings, those are the exact words they use. Mitt’s patter is EXACTLY the way the branch manager was told to tell the sales force They NEVER are Revenue Neutral" there are always some guys that come out with a small cut while others take a big pipe to the ‘wallet’!) and the branch ‘lays off’ some of the support staff. Then when things aren’t getting any better… more cuts come. Next thing you know the branches are consolidating, then there’s the “restructuring” during which time the clients are hesitant to do business with the company, which drops sales some more.
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    All the While Romney is charging exhorbitant “Consultant fees.”

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    Hey. once in a while, despite their best efforts, the company survives. Witness Dunkin Doughnuts. Witness Staples. Hey Mitt! Great jobs you’re creating there. Minimum wage jobs!

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    I’ve outlined before that Staples is a net job destroyer in that for every employee at Staples there are five employees at local office supply stores that aren’t there anymore. And 50 family businesess are destroyed, all equity erased in favor of one Staples.
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    That’s not Mitt’s fault, it is the nature of business. But don’t tell me that he (Mitt) is a job creator. Unless you have solid proof of it.
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    “Take a look at this: … theblaze.com”
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    “TheBlaze is a conservative news and opinion website and television network owned by American media personality and former CNN Headline News and Fox News host Glenn Beck’s Mercury Radio Arts. "
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    NO!
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    Glenn Beck! If that’s where you get your news, I feel sorry for you, because that is the FEAR portion of FEAR and GREED.
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    That’s a very dark place, Bruce4671. I mean like opium den dark! It’s a crack house for crack pots!
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    I hope you will someday kick the habit of the painful comfort of insane conspiracy theory driven fear mongering pessimism! I understand the addiction. It’s the only way to deal with it is to understand it.
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    First step is to recognize it, for what it is.

  11. Ian Rey

    Ian Rey said, almost 2 years ago

    Funny thing is, when Obama got beat in the first Presidential debate, liberals admitted it. When Lyin’ Ryan got smoked at the VP debate, conservatives refused to admit it.

  12. Dredpiraterobt$

    Dredpiraterobt$ said, almost 2 years ago

    @Ian Rey

    Harry S Truman, Mark Twain and Will Rodgers are all famous for saying “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble, it is what you know for sure just ain’t so.” Which was actually a line from Josh Billings (whom ever the heck he was).
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    But this is the thing about Ryan last night. He was one lost cat! Those eyes were spinning in his head.
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    He had not enough to say and took too much time saying it.
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    I would have felt sorry for him except that he is the intellectual tower of the Republican party! That’s what they say!
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    I’m willing to agree with them. He’s the best they have! Damned with faint praise!
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    To note the difference, One (not me, but almost everyone else) would say that Obama lost. But Ryan was lost! It’s a whole different thing.
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