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The fact that Joe Wilson has been friendly with some groups that espouse segregation and that he wanted Strom Thurmond’s black daughter to remain a secret has nothing to do with his shouting “You lie, boy!” at the president.
Jimmy Carter is also famous for going to the middle east and egging on the Palestians to keep fighting the Zionist Jews.
Obama is Jimmy Carter 2 anyway, so the irony of the Peanut Farmer defending him is delicious. Or would be, if it weren’t in reality such a bloody car wreck…
Jimmy Carter is the most popular living former presidents. He is speaking with first-hand knowledge of the subject of racism. All of you righties must become aware that words have consequences!!
As long as you continue to legitimize racist attacks on our president, your are assuring the Glenn Beck et. al. will get their wish: Another MARTYRED AMERICAN PRESIDENT!!
Racists can do what the FOX NOISE entertainer are too chicken to do!!
^ I think Bob means “assassinated.” Martyrs die for the Faith. I don’t think a man who has signed bills guaranteeing the death of millions of unborn men world-wide would exactly qualify as a martyr of the Christian faith he claims to profess.
And, believe me, no one wants African-Americans saddled with an assassinated “role model” as Catholics were saddled with JFK. (May he rest in peace.)
I have seen many liberals joyfully hoping Palin would continue to speak out as that would only help the liberal cause. The more Carter pontificates the more legitimate the opposition to ObamaCare becomes. Keep on crying racism Jimmy and see the reaction of the 90-95% of opposing patriotic Americans who want what is in the country’s best interest regardless of race, creed or color. People don’t like to be mindlessly called racist.
BTW, see the mind set of those who see racism everywhere. Wilson says “you lie” and Hasty and Dowd hear “you lie, boy”. I am not a psychiatrist but since they invented that word in their own minds it seems that is how they personally think of our President.
In 1958, only 35 percent of whites said they would vote for a black president. By 2006, a mere three percent of all voters said they would not vote for a black president.
The fact that the Democrats are trying to play the race card shows just how desperate they’re getting.
Let’s get real for a moment here. I’m a liberal, and I honestly think that the racism charge against Wilson is flat wrong. The man was simply charged up from meeting with constituents in town halls and elsewhere who were themselves angry. He heard the President saying things that he believed were misleading, and his emotions got the best of him. (I vehemently disagree with his characterization of the President’s claims, but that doesn’t affect this argument.)
On the other hand, the way some here dismiss racism as though it were a thing of the past is remarkably naive. And it’s not just the old folks pining for “the good old days” of Jim Crow.
Back during the primaries, I remember sitting in my brother’s kitchen chatting about the election. My wife and mother and I were talking about the possibility of having our first black president. My sister-in-law, whom I knew to be a conservative Republican, made an audible sigh. I knew that she didn’t like Barack Obama, so I asked what she might think about a fellow conservative like Alan Keyes (who is black) becoming president. She replied, “I just don’t think that a black person should be president.”
My wife and mother and I were stunned. We couldn’t believe it. We actually had a bona fide racist in the family. And she was just 32 years old!
My sister-in-law is not an anomaly. And she’s an otherwise pleasant and kind person. It is just as silly to claim that none of the President’s critics are racist as it is to say that all of them are.
wbr said: on 8/26/08 or 08/28/08 in an iterview with lerner carter called bho “black boy
Good try but no. Just sling mud and hope it sticks.
In context, he is referring to Obama as a ”….black boy who grew up with just a loving mother…”
»click here for complete transcript «
”JIMMY CARTER: Around the world. Around the world. And I think it already has sent a wave of approbation and admiration in many countries around the world, just knowing that this black boy who grew up with just a loving mother and grandparents – and that was about all he had to start with – does now have a chance to become the nominee of the Democratic Party for president.”
However, judging from all the shrill articles & blogs & cr4p out there that I had to trawl through to get that transcript, I suspect the correct nuance of Carter’s words will not be heard.
First, Carter didn’t say what McCoy invented. He didn’t say “Obama’s critics are all racists.” Whether you agree with Carter’s remarks or not, his remarks were more nuanced. And yes, he did say he thought racism was a part of Wilson’s outburst, which may not be such a stretch based on Wilson’s prior activities and his habit of apologizing later (read his wiki page)
Carter: *”There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.” *
I think Carter was accurate. See tpenna’s post above and I’ve posted about a male friend who said the country wasn’t ready for a black president, and as election progressed, I realized he was speaking of himself.
Carter: ”The president is not only the head of government, he is the head of state,” he said. “And no matter who he is or how much we disagree with his policies, the president should be treated with respect.”
I think Democrats and Liberals should say all opposition to Obama is racist. Say it over and over again. That will win the battle on behalf of the left and guarantee re-election next November. Nah, nah, nah you’re a racist. And most important ignore all criticisms as they are also racist.
“‘wbr said: on 8/26/08 or 08/28/08 in an iterview with lerner carter called bho “black boy’
Good try but no. Just sling mud and hope it sticks.
In context, he is referring to Obama as a ‘….black boy who grew up with just a loving mother…’”
What do you mean, “Good try but no?” You go on right afterward to post the quote in which Carter called him, “this black boy.” So, yes. You can claim that’s not what he meant (put yourself in the shoes of so many conservatives who have to defend twisted words), but you can’t rightly say the claim was wrong. And by using “this” instead of “the” or “that,” he implied - intentionally or not - that the term “black boy” refers to the Obama of the present.
Sure, Carter didn’t say “all,” but he did say it was an overwhelming portion. Whether or not you know someone who has racist leanings doesn’t really mean much on the whole (Redeemd aknowledged 3%).
I didn’t really like Keyes because he has a tendency to come off as a little nutty, but I met JC Watts several years ago and was hopeful that he would have higher aspirations. I was angling for a Condi/Hillary showdown. I, like what I believe to be the overwhelming portion of Republicans, am ready to vote for a black president, as long as it’s a conservative black president.
Of course there are Obama opponents out there who just don’t like a black president, but they’re nowhere near a majority. There are also a lot of liberal Obama supporters who feel personally responsible for electing a black president, because a black candidate would never make it on his own. I have heard this sentiment many times. I know plenty of liberals who have the “Diff’rent Strokes” mentality that black people will only succeed with the help of white people.
If Republicans think Wilson is a hero, and do so having informed themselves of his background, then the GOP party is even more out of the mainstream of American values than I thought.
In 2000, Wilson voted against removing the Confederate battle flag from being displayed over the state house, a cause which Wilson was once best known for championing. The Senate voted 36-7 to remove the flag.
In 2003, Wilson voted for the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act, including its Section 1011 authorizing $250,000 annually of taxpayer money to reimburse hospitals for treatment of illegal immigrants. In 2009, Wilson changed to his current position opposing public funds for healthcare of illegal immigrants.
On a 2002 live broadcast of the C-SPAN talk show Washington Journal, guests Wilson and Democratic congressman Bob Filner were discussing Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. When Filner noted that the US provided Iraq “chemical and biological weapons” in the 1980s, Wilson incorrectly stated that this idea was “made up” and commented to Filner, “This hatred of America by some people is just outrageous. And you need to get over that.” Wilson apologized for his remarks in statements to the press.
In 2003, Essie Mae Washington-Williams revealed that she was the daughter of Wilson’s former employer, the late Senator Strom Thurmond, and Thurmond’s black maid. Wilson was among those who publicly doubted her assertion that Thurmond had a child out of wedlock. Wilson said even if her story was true, she should not have revealed it because “it’s a smear” on Thurmond’s image and was a way to “diminish” Thurmond’s legacy. After Thurmond’s family acknowledged the truth of Washington-Williams’ revelation, Wilson apologized but said that he still thought that she should not have revealed that Thurmond was her father.
You can have that kind of hero, he’s no hero to me!
danTheForth asks:
What do you mean, “Good try but no?”
I mean, good try at attempting to denigrate Carter but you’re wrong.
I didn’t say Carter meant to say anything else.
Carter called Obama a boy when he was a boy, a child. I provided the context, provided the full transcript. It is there.
I cannot see how anyone can read it otherwise unless there is malicious intent on part of the reader.
You know, a couple of posters on this page would have fit in perfectly back home where I came from, about 20 years back.
Obamascares uses an icon that is racist.
David uses the expression “calling a spade a spade” and if called on it, will most certainly reply disingenuously that it means he’s being plain & honest.
President Carter has never said that Obama’s critics are “all” racists. Look at the the signs, listen to the accusations and hate speech that is used by many of the anti-Obama crowd. Racism is not dead just because we have a black president.
I like Jimmy Carter for being on the right side of the Zionist Palestinian genocide issue. But calling BHO opponents “racist” sickens me. Obama is a Bush clone on policy but with more charisma and articulation. He is as bad as Bush if not worse. And I didn’t think that was possible until now.
Glenn McCoy has been long recognized by his peers as a superior cartoonist. Besides his editorial cartoons, he also creates the daily comic strips The Duplex and The Flying McCoys.
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omQ R
said,
2 months ago
Dissing an Elder, tch, tch. That Old fool aged 85 still seems to get some peacing done.
tjdestry
said,
2 months ago
The fact that Joe Wilson has been friendly with some groups that espouse segregation and that he wanted Strom Thurmond’s black daughter to remain a secret has nothing to do with his shouting “You lie, boy!” at the president.
danTheForth said, 2 months ago
Have you been reading Maureen Dowd’s “unspoken word” comments? He didn’t say, “boy.”
scottfreitas
said,
2 months ago
Jimmy Carter is also famous for going to the middle east and egging on the Palestians to keep fighting the Zionist Jews.
Obama is Jimmy Carter 2 anyway, so the irony of the Peanut Farmer defending him is delicious. Or would be, if it weren’t in reality such a bloody car wreck…
BOB HASTY
said,
2 months ago
Jimmy Carter is the most popular living former presidents. He is speaking with first-hand knowledge of the subject of racism. All of you righties must become aware that words have consequences!!
As long as you continue to legitimize racist attacks on our president, your are assuring the Glenn Beck et. al. will get their wish: Another MARTYRED AMERICAN PRESIDENT!!
Racists can do what the FOX NOISE entertainer are too chicken to do!!
charlie555 said, 2 months ago
^ I think Bob means “assassinated.” Martyrs die for the Faith. I don’t think a man who has signed bills guaranteeing the death of millions of unborn men world-wide would exactly qualify as a martyr of the Christian faith he claims to profess.
And, believe me, no one wants African-Americans saddled with an assassinated “role model” as Catholics were saddled with JFK. (May he rest in peace.)
GNWachs
said,
2 months ago
I have seen many liberals joyfully hoping Palin would continue to speak out as that would only help the liberal cause. The more Carter pontificates the more legitimate the opposition to ObamaCare becomes. Keep on crying racism Jimmy and see the reaction of the 90-95% of opposing patriotic Americans who want what is in the country’s best interest regardless of race, creed or color. People don’t like to be mindlessly called racist.
BTW, see the mind set of those who see racism everywhere. Wilson says “you lie” and Hasty and Dowd hear “you lie, boy”. I am not a psychiatrist but since they invented that word in their own minds it seems that is how they personally think of our President.
HOWGOZIT said, 2 months ago
HASTY–hahahahahahahahahahahah to Carter popularity as a former President. You sound no better than Beck with your racist attack on Obama claim.
.
harleyquinn
said,
2 months ago
You know how to spot a bigot? He is the one talking about it and seeing it in others. The rest of us are trying to live in 2009 not 1969.
wbr said, 2 months ago
on 8/26/08 or 08/28/08 in an iterview with lerner carter called bho “black boy”
Redeemd said, 2 months ago
Thanks for the laughs, McCoy!
In 1958, only 35 percent of whites said they would vote for a black president. By 2006, a mere three percent of all voters said they would not vote for a black president.
The fact that the Democrats are trying to play the race card shows just how desperate they’re getting.
tpenna
said,
2 months ago
Let’s get real for a moment here. I’m a liberal, and I honestly think that the racism charge against Wilson is flat wrong. The man was simply charged up from meeting with constituents in town halls and elsewhere who were themselves angry. He heard the President saying things that he believed were misleading, and his emotions got the best of him. (I vehemently disagree with his characterization of the President’s claims, but that doesn’t affect this argument.)
On the other hand, the way some here dismiss racism as though it were a thing of the past is remarkably naive. And it’s not just the old folks pining for “the good old days” of Jim Crow.
Back during the primaries, I remember sitting in my brother’s kitchen chatting about the election. My wife and mother and I were talking about the possibility of having our first black president. My sister-in-law, whom I knew to be a conservative Republican, made an audible sigh. I knew that she didn’t like Barack Obama, so I asked what she might think about a fellow conservative like Alan Keyes (who is black) becoming president. She replied, “I just don’t think that a black person should be president.”
My wife and mother and I were stunned. We couldn’t believe it. We actually had a bona fide racist in the family. And she was just 32 years old!
My sister-in-law is not an anomaly. And she’s an otherwise pleasant and kind person. It is just as silly to claim that none of the President’s critics are racist as it is to say that all of them are.
omQ R
said,
2 months ago
wbr said: on 8/26/08 or 08/28/08 in an iterview with lerner carter called bho “black boy
Good try but no. Just sling mud and hope it sticks.
In context, he is referring to Obama as a ”….black boy who grew up with just a loving mother…”
»click here for complete transcript «
”JIMMY CARTER: Around the world. Around the world. And I think it already has sent a wave of approbation and admiration in many countries around the world, just knowing that this black boy who grew up with just a loving mother and grandparents – and that was about all he had to start with – does now have a chance to become the nominee of the Democratic Party for president.”
However, judging from all the shrill articles & blogs & cr4p out there that I had to trawl through to get that transcript, I suspect the correct nuance of Carter’s words will not be heard.
believecommonsense
said,
2 months ago
First, Carter didn’t say what McCoy invented. He didn’t say “Obama’s critics are all racists.” Whether you agree with Carter’s remarks or not, his remarks were more nuanced. And yes, he did say he thought racism was a part of Wilson’s outburst, which may not be such a stretch based on Wilson’s prior activities and his habit of apologizing later (read his wiki page)
Carter: *”There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.” *
I think Carter was accurate. See tpenna’s post above and I’ve posted about a male friend who said the country wasn’t ready for a black president, and as election progressed, I realized he was speaking of himself.
Carter: ”The president is not only the head of government, he is the head of state,” he said. “And no matter who he is or how much we disagree with his policies, the president should be treated with respect.”
GNWachs
said,
2 months ago
I think Democrats and Liberals should say all opposition to Obama is racist. Say it over and over again. That will win the battle on behalf of the left and guarantee re-election next November. Nah, nah, nah you’re a racist. And most important ignore all criticisms as they are also racist.
danTheForth said, 2 months ago
omQ RGenius_badge said,
“‘wbr said: on 8/26/08 or 08/28/08 in an iterview with lerner carter called bho “black boy’
Good try but no. Just sling mud and hope it sticks.
In context, he is referring to Obama as a ‘….black boy who grew up with just a loving mother…’”
What do you mean, “Good try but no?” You go on right afterward to post the quote in which Carter called him, “this black boy.” So, yes. You can claim that’s not what he meant (put yourself in the shoes of so many conservatives who have to defend twisted words), but you can’t rightly say the claim was wrong. And by using “this” instead of “the” or “that,” he implied - intentionally or not - that the term “black boy” refers to the Obama of the present.
Sure, Carter didn’t say “all,” but he did say it was an overwhelming portion. Whether or not you know someone who has racist leanings doesn’t really mean much on the whole (Redeemd aknowledged 3%).
I didn’t really like Keyes because he has a tendency to come off as a little nutty, but I met JC Watts several years ago and was hopeful that he would have higher aspirations. I was angling for a Condi/Hillary showdown. I, like what I believe to be the overwhelming portion of Republicans, am ready to vote for a black president, as long as it’s a conservative black president.
Of course there are Obama opponents out there who just don’t like a black president, but they’re nowhere near a majority. There are also a lot of liberal Obama supporters who feel personally responsible for electing a black president, because a black candidate would never make it on his own. I have heard this sentiment many times. I know plenty of liberals who have the “Diff’rent Strokes” mentality that black people will only succeed with the help of white people.
believecommonsense
said,
2 months ago
If Republicans think Wilson is a hero, and do so having informed themselves of his background, then the GOP party is even more out of the mainstream of American values than I thought.
In 2000, Wilson voted against removing the Confederate battle flag from being displayed over the state house, a cause which Wilson was once best known for championing. The Senate voted 36-7 to remove the flag.
In 2003, Wilson voted for the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act, including its Section 1011 authorizing $250,000 annually of taxpayer money to reimburse hospitals for treatment of illegal immigrants. In 2009, Wilson changed to his current position opposing public funds for healthcare of illegal immigrants.
On a 2002 live broadcast of the C-SPAN talk show Washington Journal, guests Wilson and Democratic congressman Bob Filner were discussing Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. When Filner noted that the US provided Iraq “chemical and biological weapons” in the 1980s, Wilson incorrectly stated that this idea was “made up” and commented to Filner, “This hatred of America by some people is just outrageous. And you need to get over that.” Wilson apologized for his remarks in statements to the press.
In 2003, Essie Mae Washington-Williams revealed that she was the daughter of Wilson’s former employer, the late Senator Strom Thurmond, and Thurmond’s black maid. Wilson was among those who publicly doubted her assertion that Thurmond had a child out of wedlock. Wilson said even if her story was true, she should not have revealed it because “it’s a smear” on Thurmond’s image and was a way to “diminish” Thurmond’s legacy. After Thurmond’s family acknowledged the truth of Washington-Williams’ revelation, Wilson apologized but said that he still thought that she should not have revealed that Thurmond was her father.
You can have that kind of hero, he’s no hero to me!
David
said,
2 months ago
Nice ‘toon Glen! It’s nice to see once again a spade being called a spade.
omQ R
said,
2 months ago
danTheForth asks:
What do you mean, “Good try but no?”
I mean, good try at attempting to denigrate Carter but you’re wrong.
I didn’t say Carter meant to say anything else.
Carter called Obama a boy when he was a boy, a child. I provided the context, provided the full transcript. It is there.
I cannot see how anyone can read it otherwise unless there is malicious intent on part of the reader.
Obamascares said, 2 months ago
Out of all the comments here, David made me laugh. That was a good one Dave.
HOWGOZIT said, 2 months ago
BCS has not met a Democrat she would not defend no matter.
believecommonsense
said,
2 months ago
Unlike you, Howie, I am not an ideologue. And some of my posts in the past are evidence of that.
It’s telling what makes you laugh then, youscareme
omQ R
said,
2 months ago
You know, a couple of posters on this page would have fit in perfectly back home where I came from, about 20 years back.
Obamascares uses an icon that is racist.
David uses the expression “calling a spade a spade” and if called on it, will most certainly reply disingenuously that it means he’s being plain & honest.
Sure.
So, Carter was wrong? Don’t think so.
parkersinthehouse said, 2 months ago
shame on you mc coy. you really sank pretty low calling the elder statesman a fool
you misquoted him. he knows racism when he sees it - has understood it and crusaded against it
racism is not that hard to discern, and all the clever and blathering attempted obfuscation will not cover it
fennec said, 2 months ago
Check Mirsky’s column in the October Scientific American. You’ll see where many people are coming from….unfortunately.
pearl_honolulu
said,
2 months ago
President Carter has never said that Obama’s critics are “all” racists. Look at the the signs, listen to the accusations and hate speech that is used by many of the anti-Obama crowd. Racism is not dead just because we have a black president.
believecommonsense
said,
2 months ago
fennec is that available online, or only by purchasing the magazine?
5639 said, 2 months ago
I like Jimmy Carter for being on the right side of the Zionist Palestinian genocide issue. But calling BHO opponents “racist” sickens me. Obama is a Bush clone on policy but with more charisma and articulation. He is as bad as Bush if not worse. And I didn’t think that was possible until now.