Glenn McCoy by Glenn McCoy

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  1. nomad2112

    nomad2112 said, 4 months ago

    He was too busy kissing the rings of dictators to feed the rabbit.

  2. Buzzy-One

    Buzzy-One said, 4 months ago

    Another dense one who can not seem to understand.

  3. HOWGOZIT

    HOWGOZIT said, 4 months ago

    We’ll try to help you out Buzzy, but admitting it is a great start.

  4. ezdeb

    ezdebGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Did Mr. McCoy (or nomad) snort at any cartoons showing Bush pulling dead American soldiers out of a helmet, stinking and skeletal? How much of our deficit can be attributed to the Iraq war and republicans’ demands of funding without questioning the billions, in the name of patriotism? It’s so easy for you to make fun of the current president after a few months; each month just a big republican “NO!” no comparable cartoons showing Iraqi “stimulus” spending over the last few years…Nomad, HQ, ANandy, please respond.

  5. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    I wonder if that is one of the rabbits he created? I mean he sure did not save it.

  6. ezdeb

    ezdebGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    HQ, your snark (again) duly noted. Please respond as to WHY you think the stimulus is not a good idea. Quote Boehner, Limbaugh, MCConnell, Palin, anyone you want. Just debate the policy and jump up a bit from the phony snark. Isn’ it weird that the only ppl you ever hear talk about President Obama as “The Great”, “The One Who Must Be Obeyed”, etc are republicans? No dems that I’ve ever seen quoted (HQ-any rebutting links?), or that I have spoken to in person, ever uses that starry-eyed verbiage. Only hate-filled repubs like MCCoy. Still waiting for any substantive response!

  7. dtroutma

    dtroutma said, 4 months ago

    Karl Rove ate the rabbit.

  8. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    How about I use Obama words. If we pass this now unemployment will not go over 8%. It is now at 9.5
    How about I talk about all the job killing programs programs he wants? He spelled it out in his book he wants the government to be the be all and end all. Screw the private sector. How about you ezdeb give me 1 example where he has support private sector? Lets start with the promise he made to tax the top 5% who by the way supply and create the most jobs in the USA!

  9. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Show me where this stimulus has not created only more government jobs, excuse me Obama said “good government jobs that will trickle down to help the rest” the only thing it tried to save were Union jobs. and it failed at that!

  10. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Hey look the rabbit is a shovel ready green job. Just dig a hole and dump it in the compost pile with the rest of the money that has and will be spent. Our tax money!

  11. GNWachs

    GNWachsGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    ezdeb. Assuming you are seriously asking for an answer, consider this: according to the non-partisan GAO in fiscal 2008 the total Bush deficit was $400B. In January 2009 when Bush transferred to Obama the 2009 deficit was $1.1T. In May 2009 after 4 months in office the new GAO budget deficit figure was $1.86T. (50% increase) Obama got the votes for this massive spending spree by promising what was written above, not more than 8% unemployment.

    Did Obama lie? If Bush did something like that the Dems would say he lied. I truly do not think Obama lied, he was just mistaken. He is human and allowed to be mistaken. I similarly do not believe Bush lied about WMD, he was just similarly mistaken.

    BTW, the deficit numbers $1.86T do NOT include health, education, environment or immigration. Just where is all this money coming from?

  12. ezdeb

    ezdebGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Wow, HQ, not much substance. I note that 1) you do not provide any useful info in answer and 2) your responses are jeering challanges to me and more snickering at terms like “shovel ready”. You can’t punctuate either! HQ sez “How about I talk about all the job killing programs programs he wants?” Well? How about you talk about that? Job killing programs. Yeah, that’s what our president wants. Duh. In regards to your (rather incoherent) demand that “How about you ezdeb give me 1 example where he has support private sector? Did you mean popular support, HQ, as opposed to private sector businesses? If so, I direct you to a pretty comprehensive assessment by the WSJ. Link is: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123612000246123253.html

    HQ sez “Show me where this stimulus has not created only more government jobs, excuse me Obama said “good government jobs that will trickle down to help the rest” the only thing it tried to save were Union jobs. and it failed at that!”

    Ahem. First of all, why do you hate American union members? Shall I invite the New Haven firefighters to pummel you? Second, let’s go to this link: http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1246955468164200.xml&coll=2

    Perhaps HQ can tell us why employees of the Ohio Dept of Transportation should NOT be employed, union members or not. Should the people who use highways go without repairs? Are these saved AND created jobs going somehow to citizens who don’t deserve them? Wow. Oh, and HQ? Please back up your quote from President Obama. This one - Obama said “good government jobs that will trickle down to help the rest” I’m somehow betting you can’t. You, know, it’s really dishonest to use quote marks, especially to slander someone, when you are lying. Liar. Make me apologize. I dare you, liar.

  13. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    hey ezdeb this is the funny pages. If you can not be informative and entertaining after the 1st pp of your dissertation people glaze over. geez I thought the left was the masters of the sound bite. Wait he does show how double talk and the run around work to form a smoke screen. Lets try to sound smart. This way we can to block out how inept the done nothing guy we put into office is really doing.
    Oh I think it was march 23rd or 24th sometime around then.

  14. harleyquinn
  15. ezdeb

    ezdebGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Sorry, HQ. I didn’t realize you couldn’t read without glazing over. Geez, I thought the right were masters of, um, intellect. OK, now, try to be consistent. You only want to say insulting things, keep it light, and want no pushback. Gotcha! At least I got a link to a right-wing snark blog from HQ. Shorter Obama: Stimulus money going to municipalities/states to spend on projects (fire depts, etc) makes more sense than giving that $ to private for-profit companies. Wow, that’s EXACTLY the same as Reagan “trickle-down” not. Sorry, HQ, was that too much of a dissertation for your brain?

  16. GNWachs

    GNWachsGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    ezdeb: I assume you are preparing a reply to my earlier answer to your question.

    You also ask about unions and do we hate unions? Again, assuming you are seriously asking here are some inconvenient facts.

    When GM was taken over stock holders were wiped out, bond holders were wiped out, accounts receivable people were wiped out. Example: an ad agency ordered and paid for $225M in TV/magazine etc advertising. They were owed that money. Their receivable were wiped out. The only people who got their money were the unions. It is a strange coincidence that the one group that donated to Obama was protected and everyone else lost everything.

  17. ezdeb

    ezdebGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Sorry for the delay, GNW; my internet was sooo slow I gave up till later. Now it’s later. It’s my understanding that the GAO’s estimate and the escalating deficit numbers include GWBush’s tax cuts being kept on. They ARE being kept on, by the way, despite the claim that President Obama wants to raise taxes. The GAO estimate also took a huge jump when part two of the (Bush) TARP program went into effect after 1/1/09. These numbers were revised, I believe, in June 2009. So, yes. The deficit does increase. And yes, I agree that the Obama administration made an error in the 8% guess. This does not mean they are not trying to put the fire out. Do you see the difference between being angry at the policies that set the fire, and being (shallowly) angry because the fire dept hasn’t yet put it out after it smoldered for years and burst into a pyre thru neglect?

    Your point about GM is questionable. You state that everyone was wiped out except the unions, which you say “got their money”. The US gov’t currently owns 30% of the “new” GM, the Canadian gov’t and interests own 29%, the unions own 17.5% and promissory notes, and the stockholders own 23%. In exchange for the 17.5%, the UAW takes on the responsibility of managing all retirement and health benefits for retired GM workers from now on forever. Your assertion that there’s a strange coincidence does not follow.

    Again, can ONE of you tell me why “the unions”, who are made up of American workers, are enemies? Is it necessary to have monolithic enemies in order for you to hate? “The government” is out to get us, “the unions”, “the libs”, etc. It makes me sad that you don’t get that we are all individuals. My mom belongs to a nurses’ union, my brother in law is a contract (union) teacher in a rural boarding school for isolated ranchers’ kids. My dad and my sister are veterans and receive excellent medical care thru the VA, a “socialist, single payer healthcare provider”. Are we your enemies? Sorry to make you doze and drool, HQ…

  18. ezdeb

    ezdebGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Oh, GNW, I forgot. What do you think would have happened to the $225m that ad agency spent if GM went down without restructuring? Oh yeah, they would lose it then, too. So would the stockholders, the pensioners, the suppliers, etc. What would be gained? I’ll await your replies. HQ, still waiting for some substance from you, sir.

  19. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    masters of, um, intellect. sounds like Obama off promter.

    Shorter Obama: Stimulus money going to municipalities/states to spend on projects (fire depts, etc) makes more sense than giving that $ to private for-profit companies. Wow, that’s EXACTLY the same as Reagan “trickle-down” not. Sorry, HQ, was that too much of a dissertation for your brain?

    So bottom line is what I said. Government jobs good private not good. plus he said trickle down from those good jobs? Never did I say Reagan. I am waiting for your apology. Or are you going to quible about a “paraphrase” of all things.
    My point we should not have spent the money at all! He should have just gotten out of the way. Now we are in that 30% chance of total failure Joe told us about. And every one else said if we did NOTHING we would have had a 50/50 chance of coming out of “the worst rescission since the great depression”
    Now Obama is Oops our bad we did not have all the facts or the wrong facts to make that prediction….Who can blame him mean it not like it was his money.

    Funny you brought up Ohio where Obama flew in to make sure everyone knows that 25 more police were on the job because of him. Flash forward, Those jobs never came to be. Sorry. But jobs like that are best left up to the States!
    Bottom line stimulus fail!

  20. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Oh and the job killer, I file that one under the phony religion “climate change” he wants to shove down our throat. He will tax us all with his cap and trade the plunder which will kill jobs. Then he will make these magical green jobs appear.

  21. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    I only went to your 1st link there E. You said I went to a right wing place. Wich is about the only place I could find Obama speaking the words ” because it’s going to trickle down and help the people in that community”
    You send me to a site that is all about poll numbers? Looks about right to me. I send you to where you can find the info you send me to a sight that talks about what everyone should be thinking becuase that is what the polls tell us.
    geez.

  22. GNWachs

    GNWachsGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    ezdeb: Re unions. Unions are wonderful for their members. They get paid way out of proportion to supply and demand because they and they only can unite to bargain together. By law management cannot do that.

    BUT, only 8% of non government workers are unionized. That means 92% of all non government American workers are subsidizing the unions. That is elite and not fair. And of course the unions in many cases are closed because if they weren’t they could not maintain their artificial salaries.

    Also unions care nothing about everyone else. Here in NYC they closed the schools, the hospitals, the newspapers, the police (blue flu) for their own selfish benefit. Why should I care for them they certainly do not care about anyone else.

    Why do liberals hate the wealthy beneficiaries of capitalism and love the equally small numbers of wealthy labor beneficiaries? You are harming 92% to benefit 8%.

  23. ezdeb

    ezdebGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    OK, neither of you are answering any questions. HQ, you simply reply that polls are bad. Not a tool to measure anything, just bad. Your “sight”, however, is cool, numbers-wise. GNW, you just reply that “unions” care nothing about everyone else. The unions close all other service agencies, like hospitals, right? How? No info, just unfounded assertions. Unions harm 92% to benefit 8%? But your belief is that the 8% is on the botttom. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Please read some US history, specifically about the stimulus passed by FDR during the great depression. Do you think he did the wrong thing? Read anything regarding the “success” of our capitalist system in the 20’s and 30’s. This and the economic upheaval of the industrial revolution in the US brought about the need for unions to protect workers from the many abuses of for-profit companies that made a few rich. Remember the Triangle Shirtwaist Company fire? No? Didn’t think so. Your only argument is that unions are evil and give advantages to poor people. Evil, no context, no history, no discussion. HQ, PLEASE lern how two spel!!

    HQ’s last comment: “Oh and the job killer, I file that one under the phony religion “climate change” he wants to shove down our throat.” That tells me all I need to know. Thanks. Oh, and I DO apologize for calling you a liar. You are a not-smart person who leaves spittle flecks on your keyboard in your haste to reply in such a brilliant fashion. Your uninformed snark will take the place of any actual discussion, and that’s the way you like it! Thanks for unintentionally, without actual debate, letting me know how useless this conversation is.

    GNW, did I say I hate wealthy beneficiaries of capitalism? You STATED that unions are evil. You say that only 8% of non-government employees are union. Here is a BLS link that breaks it down. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm

    Now, this is information from the agency that puts out the statistics. Frankly, the rest of the statistics will probably make BOTH of you smirk, because it shows black people have the highest union membership in the U.S. See, this is information, though. It is the portal thru which we see dialogue. It’s not (HQ!) just insults. Weird, huh? An interesting discussion can be had about, say, Captain Sully. He landed his airliner in the Hudson River not long ago. He is slated to retire soon, and because of union-busting federal policies in the 80’s, he’ll be replaced by a pilot with roughly the same experience and job knowledge as the young pilot and co-pilot who crashed their plane in upstate New York due only to inexperience. Non-union employees can harm others, too, GNW. Much different quality of training when the airline company is focused completely on shaving cost, without a mechanics’, pilots’ or attendants’ unions to call out errors and deficiencies.Capt. Sully himself warned of it. When you call something only evil or perfect, you can’t talk about it. My opinion is that we tend to have a “pendulum” mentality. Things swing so far one way that ppl have to try to protect themselves as the powerful take all they are able to take. This applies to unions as well as federal gov’t power, Congress, hospitals, anyone. Then, when we’ve had enough, the pendulum swings wildly the other direction; we pass laws to outlaw that which we passed laws to enforce just 50 years prior. Whoever is in power needs watching. Unions can be just as abusive as any other unregulated power. I subscribe to the “eternal vigilance” thought of protecting our democracy. I can’t respect your “I hate them cuz they hate them cuz they hate them so I hate them” thought. Care to try again? HQ, I can’t wait to see what you have to say. “Yeah? Well Obama is a doo-doo head and I know it and you don’t cuz yer a librul stoopid doo-doo head!!! Snort” That’s my guess.

  24. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Hey E blah blah blah, These are the funny pages learn how to have some fun. And I am still waiting for my apology! Obama said of this very stimulus plan ” Government good plan, private bad plan and my favorite “because it’s going to trickle down and help the people in that community”
    Or are you just going to blah on about something no one is going to read.

  25. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    he he he I just read the 2nd pp of E and I love it. He types up a storm . Calling people out and putting them down all while saying that is not nice. then says “letting me know how useless this conversation is”
    But it is so useless he has to type up another term paper.
    Sounds like the Stimulus bill to me. A bunch of I am not bush because I can pass all these give aways. You are mean because you will not let it work. I am not apologizing when I was proven wrong.

  26. ezdeb

    ezdebGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    You are too funny, HQ. You ask for your apology again, insult me about blah-ing on, admit you didn’t read what I said; I DID apologize, you stained-tshirt, goofy bleeep, shave-needing, mouth breathing, Sarah lovin’, outdoor guy wannabe, couch potato, big mouthed, 7 day underwear, hairy nostriled (nostrilled?) wildlife hating, liberal bashing, fact challanged, uneducated, ignorant and proud of it republican! But I repeat myself. Bye. Oh, another lucid point of yours I saw on Auth’s cartoon. Ahahahahah! You are good.

  27. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    You apologize like a 3 year old E. But at least you are venting and hopefully feel better you got all that hate out of your system. Why does someone who leans left so full of hate? They just love to project it on others do they not?
    But when are you going to admit I was right and you were wrong. Hey you dared me. I do not go out of my way…I just follow up.
    Oh and I am no more a R then I am a D..assume much?

  28. ezdeb

    ezdebGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    yeah, just as you assume I’m a he.

  29. David

    DavidGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Who needs to quote anybody? Simple common sense would tell you that the stimulus was rotten to the core from the start.

    You cannot spend your way out of debt. A negative plus a negative will always land you with a bigger negative.

    Our politicians have spent decades acting like the laws of finance do not apply to them. The law of finance still applies and behavior like this has consequences attached.

    Obama spends money just like Bush, Clinton, Bush, Regan, Carter, Ford and many before him did. He is as much a part of the problem as the other presidents because he continues to spend money like they did.

  30. oldlegodad

    oldlegodadGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Give up folks. No one has changed anyone else’s mind. We all come here with head up and locked, don’t we Hump?

  31. HUMPHRIES

    HUMPHRIESGenius_badge said, 4 months ago

    Too true, too often oldie. I’ll just have to learn to live with different opinions but there are a few here who use slander as an excuse for opinion.

  32. ahab

    ahabGenius_badge said, 3 months ago

    Five months is not enough time to fix a problem neglected for eight years. The economy was on full meltdown when inherited. Waste time and money and the health of our troops in Iraq. Whine on when before you were silent in the face of true neglect. At least the stimulus money is being spent on U.S. soil and not outside the country.

  33. DrCanuck

    DrCanuck said, 3 months ago

    Yes, only a portion of the stimulus has been assigned at this point. Would you conservatives prefer Obama just throw money out quickly and indiscriminately as Bush did, or slowly vett the recipients to ensure it’s going to honest and effective businesses?