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Gary Varvel

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  1. Jase99

    Jase99 GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    Al-obamas? You don’t actually believe the birther movement, do you?

  2. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 3 years ago

    I would like to think it is Obama, refusing to switch the track so the train can’t get through. Yelling wait until after the midterms wait till after the midterms.

  3. lonecat

    lonecat said, about 3 years ago

    If this plan isn’t working (not that anyone knows, yet) then get to work and pass one that does work. Here’s my plan — you can have it for free. The Federal Government passes a short list of principles — everyone is covered, the various plans are portable from state to state, and such — and then it’s up to each state to work out its own system within those basic principles. One state might want Romneycare, another might want to try single payer, another might come up with another system, perhaps a mix of public and private. Over time we would find out which systems work best, and those would gradually be adopted more widely.

  4. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 3 years ago

    Ok; I am going to flag you for that one, there is no reason for that, although Congress does write the laws have you not been listing to the news, Obama is doing everything he can through executive orders and the bureaucracy.

  5. warjoski

    warjoski GoComics PRO Member said, about 3 years ago

    I don’t know about him, but yes it did bother me. Now please explain how that is any kind of valid defense for Obama doing it? Thanks.

  6. jack75287

    jack75287 said, about 3 years ago

    Let’s wait till after eight years shall we. Also let’s look at what some of those executive orders were about. Executive Order 13481 Provide an order of succession in the Justice Department. 13428 Closed the government on Friday Dec 26 2008. Also the most of any one year is 2001 the year the war started you know 9/11.

    While President Obama had executive order 13490 over ethics, it is ironic with all the current scandals. 13492 the disposition of detainees at Guantanamo.

    I know these are not enough to make any informed decision, but I would not be talking.

  7. Wraithkin

    Wraithkin said, about 3 years ago

    Can we please get past the petty name-calling and discuss the real issue of this ‘toon? Yeesh.

    Look at the toon. He delayed the implementation of this “train wreck” (aka the PPACA), specifically the employer mandate portion, is for purely political reasons. They don’t want this monstrosity’s adverse effects coming into play until after the mid-term elections. It has nothing to do with the ability of the businesses to adapt, it’s purely a political maneuver.

    But here’s one point that is problematic. Obama is breaking a law he himself signed into law. The language of the PPACA states these things will take effect, “The months following December 31st, 2013.” That means he is bypassing Congress and making his own rules. Why is no-one calling him on this, except conservatives? How are we supposed to have the individual mandate based on what employees are given by their employers if the employer mandate is delayed? He has created what is, in programming terms, a recursive loop.

    That’s my biggest issue. So liberals on the boards, riddle me this: Why aren’t you calling him out on breaking his own law? Why aren’t you calling him out for delaying the employer mandate, that is supposed to help the uninsured? Why is he being given a pass? C’mon guys, THINK!

  8. Hawthorne

    Hawthorne said, about 3 years ago

    “0bamacare was designed to collapse of it’s own bureaucratic weight. It was designed to fail so Democrats can enact their real dream of single-payer. That sounds so much better than “socialized medicine.”

    RomeyCare is what we have, what NO ONE wanted, except the GOP.

    Single payer care works – unless, of course you believe that the goverment is going to engage in ‘death panels’ – in fact, I’d rather trust the goverment than the insurance companies, who answer to no one but their stockholders. The government is supposed to answer to us.

    Remember that? You were in school much more recently than I was – maybe they aren’t bothering to tell kids that any more.

    I think you are exactly right about the outcome of implementing RomneyCare nationwide in 2014. But ask yourself this: if that happens, why is it Obama’s fault? If that is the way the employers behave, it is surely not anyone’s fault but the CEOs and the BODs.

    The fact that the previous five or six or more administrations have let corporate industry believe they are above the law doesn’t make that right. It doesn’t make it ‘good for the country’.

    Market driven capitalism is good for the country.

    Government subsidized monopolies are not market driven capitalism. RomneyCare is a gift by government to the insurance industries. It will be good for NO ONE except the insurers.

  9. Hawthorne

    Hawthorne said, about 3 years ago

    “The premise of the ACA is great, and noble – but it does NOTHING to reduce the cost of care for the citizenry.”

    Of course it doesn’t. Most of us knew that – we just have no voice in this government at all, any more than we have over the last few decades.

    The ACA is nothing but a gift to the insurance industry, no more, no less. You are right; it is a travesty.

    I don’t hear anyone touting its virtues, though – except the teabaggers who rammed it down our throats.

  10. Hawthorne

    Hawthorne said, about 3 years ago

    GWB wrote more executive orders than Obama has, does that bother you? Did it then?”

    What bothers me is all these executive orders that Obama has supposedly signed.

    Which ones are they? Certainly GWB’s pen had an infinite ink supply …

  11. Hawthorne

    Hawthorne said, about 3 years ago

    ACA is better at covering the uninsured, at lower cost, than the cruel spite being offered instead by many conservatives!”

    I hope you’re right, but it looks to me as if the same underserved group is still going to be … underserved.

    The system has never been a problem for those who are well off or well employed. Those who have had problems are those who are underemployed (the majority of our workers), and women with small children, veterans, the elderly … believe me, I’ve seen the schedules; it will NOT improve anything for any of those people.

    The ACA was a gift to the insurers, who don’t need it. They need to get corporate industry out of health care, period.

    As it is we have BigAg feeding the food refiners, who are poisoning us, thus delivering us handily to BigPharma.

    And the health insurers get ever richer.

    We need single payer health care. We have plenty of models to choose from; all the First World countries and several Third World ountries have functional health care programs.

    The fact is, we don’t want to ‘waste resources’ on the poor and disenfranchised. It’s that simple. Obscene profits are much more important than people.

  12. Hawthorne

    Hawthorne said, about 3 years ago

    “They haven’t figured it out yet! Nurf! nurf Dr C!”

    Not Dr. C, but very well said!

  13. Hawthorne

    Hawthorne said, about 3 years ago

    @Wraithkin

    " Why is he being given a pass? C’mon guys, THINK!"

    He’s not being given a pass. Even if it were 12/31/2013, which it isn’t yet, only a few die hard neocons think the thing is anything other than it appears to be – a free gift to the insurance industry.

    Since that’s not what we wanted, and not even what Obama was talking about, what, exactly, do you suggest we do about it?

    We should be writing our reps and demanding the thing be repealed … but then, how long before we’re able to replace it with something functional?

    The neocons don’t want us to have it, so we’ll have to manage without it. Until we can somehow reestablish a sane government" – and by that I mean a government which understands that its job isn’t to foster multi-billion dollar profits for a few, at the expense of its constituents and the country itself.

    As to ‘liberals on the board’ … this isn’t a ‘liberal’ issue, or a ‘conservative’ issue – it’s a SURVIVAL issue. Not only for us as individuals, but the country itself.

    The health care fiasco is only only of many. It’s not even the most important one.

    Why is no one screaming to have Monsanto brought down? They have cost the country the wheat export, and compromised the corn export! And the pundits and media are silent on the subject?

    Did you realize that the wheat discovered in Eastern Oregon at the end of May was not a strain that was tested in Oregon? It was a strain tested in Ohio! And none of it was ever approved for commercial production, which means that Monsanto itself couldn’t control it’s product.

    GMO was something else Obama said he’d deal with. He was talking about labeling, which ought to be easy – if the product is so great, why not label it? Then people could actively choose it, right? But no, we can’t even get labeling, because the GOP is happy to risk poisoning the population without checking the risks, in the interest of fostering Monsanto’s world monopoly of food production.

    Now, that’s a problem.

  14. Hawthorne

    Hawthorne said, about 3 years ago

    “I criticize the president plenty. But here you are AGAIN, he’s doing what you should like, and you’re all bent out of shape about it.”

    But, RV … you know that criticism doesn’t cut it. Only unrequited hatred is sufficient.

    Besides, criticism requires analytical thinking. We have a decided shortage in this country these daysl :-/

  15. Wraithkin

    Wraithkin said, about 3 years ago

    But that’s what I’m saying. What he did is not legal. Once again, he’s controlling this country by executive fiat. The problem is BOTH groups of congressmen/women are negligent.

    Liberals don’t want to speak up, because they’ll be opposing Obama. Conservatives don’t want to speak up because they don’t want anything to do to support the PPACA. Both are addressing the symptoms, not the problem.

    For me it’s not about the ends, it’s about the means. I haven’t read anything specifically about Christie, but if he’s jerry-rigging the time of the election to give him a political advantage, shame on him as well. But in reality what he is doing is obeying the law. Obama can’t make the same claim.

    So what do I want you to do about it? Call him! Call your congressional leader, like conservatives call theirs. Send emails. Use Facebook. Whatever. Don’t just bleat “I support Obama.” I’m not picking on you, specifically, Vent. But I’m saying there are too many people on both sides who are content to just eat the crap that is fed to them.

    He doesn’t care about the 2016 presidential election; he isn’t going to be around for that; he doesn’t care. But he does care about the 2014 midterms, because that will either let him accomplish his goals, or will have the risk of overturning his stuff before his term is finished. 2014 will make or break his legacy. 2014 will make or break his ideological mission. If he loses both chambers in 2014, his Presidential Legacy will be garbage. That’s all he cares about. That’s why he pushed this back into 2015. Prove otherwise.

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