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   lalas said, 15 days ago

   Seems to me the R party has been shoveling the dirt onto itself.

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   charlie555 said, 15 days ago

   ^True, liberalism thrives only in a void.

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   lalas said, 15 days ago

   Hmmm… so there has been no backlash to the GOPs hard slide to the FAR right?

   Who’s in what void there kitty kat?

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   charlie555 said, 15 days ago

   ^I meant the GOP fell into their own void.

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   dtroutma said, 15 days ago

   Could add stones for Grenada, Afghanistan, Iraq (2), Panama, Nicaragua, Lebanon.

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   sredman said, 15 days ago

   Let face it, we are a 2 party system. Independents aren’t really independent because they have to vote for either a Democrat or a Republican. Unless they just want to throw their vote away voting for a 3rd party candidate.

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   lalas said, 15 days ago

   sredman – Minneapolis just had our first Rank Choice election. Went pretty smoothly. I voted for a couple independents knowing that if they fell away my vote would go to the lesser of the remaining evils.

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   Dypak said, 15 days ago

   The only way for a proper 3rd party to grow is at the state level. Like the example lalas gave. Our national politcs are too screwed up for any real change. Neither the Republic party nor the Democrat party care about America or our government. They only want what is best for their party. Republicans have gone back in time and studied Leninist philosophy, “The worse things are, the better they are”. Meaning the worse we can make things for the Democrats the better things will end up being for the Republicans. And what happens to the country in the mean time is simply not important.

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   Ken Warren said, 15 days ago

   Dypak I have never heard this put better.

   In the 60/70’s protesters would shout: “Give Us Back Our County!” Now we need to stop asking and take back our County.

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    churchillwasright said, 14 days ago

    KEN: That sounds pretty radical. I know you’re against things like the peaceful tea party protests awakening that evil ultra right wing base and all… and how democracy isn’t working because the spineless left isn’t shoving their policies through in spite of what constituents think.

    You’re not advocating violence, are you?

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    Ken Warren said, 14 days ago

    Church: One thing I think you and I might agree upon is the problem is not Democracy has failed us, but that we have failed Democracy.

    We all need to get more involved – which is difficult since neither party wants to bring in people who want to change things.

    We all need to be better voters – if you are going to vote for someone because of something you saw in a political add, then please don’t vote – do the work and then make up your mind.

    John Mccain is a great man, one of the best candiates the Republicans have put forth – I came close to voting for him, but (like a lot of people) the last 8 years showed me a Republican Party I didn’t like, and I didn’t think he could change that.

    America can’t be changed by violence. Violence only leads to violence. If the Republicans come back into power the world won’t end, but America won’t be as good as it could be.

    Most Americans live and vote in the middle, the people currently leading the Republican Party consider Rush a moderate.

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    churchillwasright said, 14 days ago

    KEN: Well, let’s just say that if I was hooked up to one of those people meters that Frank Luntz always shows on Fox (I hope I’m not being too esoteric), the graph of your comment would look like this:

    First 3 paragraphs: very high on agreement
    Fourth paragraph: starts slowly going down
    Starts jumping back up when you talk about violence
    Drops off a cliff after that. (insert flat-lining beeeeep sound here)

    (The leaders of the Republican party think Rush is a moderate? What bizarro world do you live on?)

    Oh well.

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    dtroutma said, 14 days ago

    A long-time friend (45 years) is extremely conservative, has been sending me anti-Obama stuff since the primaries.

    He REFUSES to listen to “news”, or “read” ,because facts might go against what he “believes”.

    He sent me a “birther” thing yesterday, asking for fact check. I sent him back a response, and included some things that came out of Cheney/Bush fact check as well.

    He blew his cool, “how dare I refer to failures of Bush or Cheney”!

    Our country must become informed and support true democratic action, in keeping with our Republic.

    I agree that anyone thinking Rush is “moderate” is indeed in a world of both the bizarro,- and extremely thin-skinned.

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    Ken Warren said, 13 days ago

    Church – As usual thanks for your comments.

    A couple of times a week I try (sometimes it isn’t easy) to watch both MSNBC and Fox to compare and contrast. There is no doubt both are slanted, but at least you get both side (even if both sides are from the extreme) of the stories.

    My opinion, which is bias, is that Fox is further to the right then MSNBC is to the left.

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    HOWGOZIT said, 13 days ago

    Wow, another troutism!

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    cabrobst said, 13 days ago

    Hit it! Beat it with that shovel now!

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    Obamascares said, 13 days ago

    People vote their emotions. It’s unfortunate that voters don’t look at the candidate and his actions. Instead they vote for a name, a party, a culture, a religion, a belief.

    I work the polls and I am appalled by how some people vote.On occasion I help the elderly vote because some times they can’t see well so I read them the ballot. I had one lady who told me she only voted for Italians and she proceeded to vote for anyone who had an Italian name.

    When we came to 2 candidates( DEM & GOP) that had Irish names, she was stumped. So with tongue in cheek I suggested to her that maybe one of them has an Italian mother. She asked me if I knew which one. I told her I didn’t know either of them that well. So she skipped over them.

    That is what I call VOTING STUPID.

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    Ken Warren said, 13 days ago

    Yes it’s bad system, but the fact is that it is a better system then any other system.

    As my Grandfather use to say: “If I was in charge only smart people would get to vote, and, of course, I would be the one who gets to decide who the smart people are!”

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    parkersinthehouse said, 13 days ago

    o-scares - please re-read your bizarre generalization again and reconsider

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    a.c.d said, 11 days ago

    What I find to be a travesty is that federal ex cons dont get to vote. This is a human right violation if I ever saw one. If you repaid your debt to society then you should be allowed to vote. And if you think that ex cons may not vote correctly, then I doubt we have anything left to fear since as -scares- pointed out, voters are stupid. Even though I may loath stupid people, we shouldnt deny them their right to vote, even for past mistakes. The only thing I see here is a systematic denial of votes to the minority and excluding people who need inclusion more than anyone. What is the purpose of rehabilitation if we dont even believe in its outcomes by allowing those EX-cons (note that fact that they are ex, and not current) to vote.