Classic Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau

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  1. leftwingpatriot

    leftwingpatriot GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Let’s hope, the Rev isn’t planning to direct “The Passion Play” for Lent.

  2. Illegal Seagull

    Illegal Seagull said, over 2 years ago

    Hipster Nativity circa 1973. Nobody showed up for it.

  3. DavidHuieGreen

    DavidHuieGreen said, over 2 years ago

    working with amateurs

  4. Bartholomew Orso

    Bartholomew Orso said, over 2 years ago

    Hipster version of the Nativity? What are they putting on-Jesus Christ Superstar?

  5. Astolat

    Astolat said, over 2 years ago

    Only popping in occasionally, so just want to pick up a pedantic point from yesterday: no-one claims that Jesus was immaculately conceived. Traditional Christian belief is that he was VIRGINALLY conceived. Catholic tradition is that his mother, Mary, was IMMACULATELY conceived: in other words the normal biological way, but theologically without the transmission of original sin. It is the theological answer to why Jesus didn’t get tainted by sin through Mary.

    Over on the liberal/secular end, the idea that Jesus was entirely fictional is now very out of date. Work on the historical Jesus concentrates on what the gospels inadvertently tell us about the Jesus of history, despite them being written as apologetic propaganda for the Christ of faith. Secular and liberal scholar will take it as read that there was nothing supernatural about Jesus; will discount the nativity stories (as history) completely; will argue about the extent to which the resurrection narratives reflect visions and dreams or are just later theological constructs; but won’t dispute the history of the crucifixion, because it is such a shameful way for a religious leader to end that you wouldn’t have recorded it unless it had actually happened.

  6. Cozmik Cowboy

    Cozmik Cowboy said, over 2 years ago

    She: Do you believe in original sin?
    He: Depends; how original did you want to get?

  7. BudsGlory

    BudsGlory said, over 2 years ago

    Yep 25 December is a busy day in mythical history, especially for virgin births.
    Chrishna, of India, born on December 25, 3228 BC, his mother was a virgin, mother’s name was Maia. Kamsa, the ruler at the time of his birth sought to kill him (Chrishna) because he had heard a Prophecy that Chrishna would overthrow him. Chrishna escaped death by being smuggled out of the area to safety (Holy King Herod Batman)
    Mithra, of Persia, born on December 25, before 1500 BC, his birth was witnessed by Shepherds that brought gifts to honor him.
    Buddha, of India, born on December 25, 563 BC, his mother’s name was Maya (similar to Mary) she was a virgin. He was immaculately conceived, and at birth, he announced that he was a savior to the world. His birth was announced by a star. At his birth, he was visited by Wise Men who declared that they had seen Signs of his birth

    Lot’s more as well but you get the idea. I will give Christians great credit for basing their myths on well proven and popular existing myths. The story was 3,000 years old and just about perfected by the time they stole it for their own uses.

  8. montessoriteacher

    montessoriteacher said, over 2 years ago

    He sure is grumpy for a clergy type guy.

  9. griffon88

    griffon88 said, over 2 years ago

    @Astolat

    One, maybe it’s out of date on the theistic side, but it isn’t outside of Christianity. Two, I don’t think John reads it as shameful; his Jesus is a Superman without a Clark Kent.

  10. Mourdac

    Mourdac said, over 2 years ago

    I loved this strip when it ran originally, great to see it again.

  11. goweeder

    goweeder said, over 2 years ago

    @Astolat

    It’s so nice to read a dissertation from someone who was there.

  12. Gee Man

    Gee Man GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    @Astolat

    lol’d at goweeder…
    Immaculate conception in the Catholic lexicon doesn’t refer to Jesus being conceived without sex, vs protestants believing there was sex but no transmission of original sin. Rather, immaculate conception, the Catholic concept, believes in the perpetual virginity of Mary – that she never did have sex with her husband Joseph (which, besides making you feel real bad for both she and Joseph, does lead to some problems reconciling later scriptural references to Jesus’ brothers).
    This is versus Protestant and other Christian traditions that Mary was a virgin and her pregnancy with Jesus was started by God, sans sex, but does not add the extension that she and Joseph never did have normal marital relations.
    Hope that clears things up :)

  13. jeffiekins

    jeffiekins said, over 2 years ago

    @Cozmik Cowboy

    Awesome.

  14. Kaffekup

    Kaffekup said, over 2 years ago

    Since in Jewish tradition, sex isn’t a sin, and there is no such thing as original sin, it appears to us that all of that was what Astolat refers to as theological constructs.
    Which, as I have said elsewhere, follow one from the other as necessary to maintain the structure. Which is one of many reasons we never accepted it.
    .
    I’m reminded of this because today is the anniversary of the beginning of the First Crusade massacres of German Jews in 1096.

  15. Calvin Majors

    Calvin Majors GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Any word on when Doonesbury will get back to the business of contemporary political satire?

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