Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau


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  1. pouncingtiger

    pouncingtiger said, over 3 years ago

    Sick restaurant workers could create mass sickness in customers.

  2. FlyinHeavy

    FlyinHeavy said, over 3 years ago

    Riiiight. At every job I’ve ever worked, most people come to work sick and use sick days for last minute vacation days. OK, how many hands for those willing to pay more money at their favorite restaurant to support the new costs being proposed? Anybody? I’ve worked in the industry and the owners worked their backsides off for profit margins in the low single digits. And no, they don’t do it for the good of their soul, they do it to make money. Want to be a rich owner, go open your own shop and work the 18 hour days to make it a success. But wait, this is just Trudeau being Trudeau.

  3. MiepR

    MiepR said, over 3 years ago

    Why not engage in reasonable discussion instead of posting ridiculous straw man questions?

  4. Linguist

    Linguist said, over 3 years ago

    Good god Gertrude ! the trolls are climbing out from under their rocks early today.
    Didn’t think we’d have to “flag” wave this early.
    Obviously, there are idiots who don’t realize that restaurant workers are not paid minimum wage but far less.
    I will also bet that not only have these “people” never worked as a server or a bartender but they are cheapskates and lousy tippers !

  5. jeffc42

    jeffc42 GoComics PRO Member said, over 3 years ago

    Funny how the minimum wage in Australia is $16.00 an hour and their economy hasn’t tanked.

  6. nazzofoggenmach

    nazzofoggenmach said, over 3 years ago

    our own mr pink… kisses

  7. wcorvi

    wcorvi said, over 3 years ago

    We can easily find out what would happen if minimum wage were $20/hr – that is what Australia has. And the answer is, food, both in restaurants and grocery stores, is quite expensive – about double what it is in the States. But the flip side is, what you see on the menu is what you pay. And another, kids there WANT jobs! That is their goal in life. Here stateside, YOU tell ME what kids’ goals are.

  8. wcorvi

    wcorvi said, over 3 years ago


    @Jeffc42 – you may be right at $16 – I was told $20, but that might be rounded up. BTW, the Aussie $ is valued at slightly MORE than ours now, not the traditional half to 3/4.

  9. cdward

    cdward said, over 3 years ago

    It’s important to remember that this particular strike is against a fast food chain – for which the profit margins are much higher than the independent restaurant. As to sick days and vacation – well, yes, people really do use sick days when they are sick. And many restaurant workers get no vacation at all, so I would be okay with them taking that time. And yes, I’ve worked in retail food service.

  10. Newshound41

    Newshound41 said, over 3 years ago

    I worked as an assistant store manager for a drugstore chain. I was expected to work 6 days a week, 60 hours a week, no overtime, no holidays off. I received the same salary no matter how many hours a week I worked. I wasn’t busting my hump “to make narrow profit” margins. I did it to pay the rent. Through my sciatica out unloading a truck. Still did not miss a day because there was no one to take my place.
    Lets talk about the restaurant business. How many restaurant servers get sick days or vacation days? Few, if they have a boss with a sense of humanity. Most restaurant workers get paid for the hours they work plus tips. The plan proposed in NYC calls for unpaid sick days for restaurant workers. The main concern there is job security, not lost income. Of course you do not want ill workers handling food, but some will show up for the fear of losing their job. The unpaid sick days guarantees those workers a job if they need to take time off, even if they don’t get paid for those days.
    Next question, how many restaurant workers are provided with medical coverage? The fact that many restaurant franchise owners are resorting to cutting worker hours to avoid providing health insurance tells you how few restaurant workers get medical coverage. You are more likely to get medical coverage if the restaurant you work is owned by the corporate parent rather than a franchisee.

  11. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago

    Eliminate minimum wage, eliminate social welfare programs, eliminate unions, and presto!, you have full employment! People have to eat, and they will take whatever job they can find if they have no alternative but starvation.
    And all the affluent folks will be able to afford live-in maids, cooks, gardeners, butlers, etc. again. And complain about how hard it is to get good servants. Life expectancies will drop, crime will rise, radical left-wing politics will take hold, as will fundamentalist religion (though not all Christian, now). Retirement will only be for the rich, and the poorhouse for most elderly people without family to take care of.
    Marriage and birthrates will rise, because having a spouse and children will be regarded as social insurance, having little to do with love or companionship. Divorce will be a luxury that few can afford, no matter how bad the marriage.
    And the immigration debate will end, and the borders will be open: because there will many fewer who want to come to America, and there will be no need (in the eyes of those now in complete control) to keep anyone out if those who come in cost the taxpayer little, and help keep wages down.
    The power of employer’s over their employees will become even greater, and to be fired without “references” would be tantamount to utter ruin.

    In short, society would come to resemble what you find in “third-world” countries, or urban America in 1890 (for American is nearly all urban now). For the the upper quarter of Americans, life might actually become better.

    This what conservatism is all about: making the future more resemble the past, rather than deal with a future that will resemble nothing ever seen before. Though the latter is ever and always what you actually get.

  12. blackash

    blackash said, over 3 years ago

    Some posters want a future that looks like Argentina or Cuba.

  13. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago

    Guard SGT has a good point. Why not raise the minimum wage to some huge figure? Levels of minimum wage are always, to some extent, arbitrary. When they are raised too high they drive inflation and bring the value of the wages back down accordingly. Nevertheless, they can compel employers to actually share productivity gains with their employees to greater extent, and they do provide protection against absolute exploitation. Or make workers live on charity (i.e. “tips”).

    Raising the minimum wage to what it was 20 years ago, adjusted for inflation, and raising it from time to time to keep pace with inflation, is hardy ruinous.

  14. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 3 years ago

    When it come to food service, we already have a servile “tipping” culture, that raises the cost of restaurant food sometimes 20%. That is the “low pay for food servers” tax we all pay, unless we’re lowlifes who stiff the waitress if she’s not pretty. Do you really want to see that culture spread? Would you like to see a sign in every store, every office, that says “Don’t forget to tip the sales clerks (or whatever), they depend on your tips for their livelihood”? Even if it meant a few percent off the price of every item in the store, or every service in the office? (If you don’t tip the receptionist, next time you might not even get in.) If you would not want to see this culture everywhere, why do you think it appropriate anywhere? As tips are not mandatory (then they would be included in the price), as you do not make a contract with your servers, agreeing in advance on what you will pay for service, tips are, in effect, something like bribes or charity.

  15. DDddd

    DDddd said, over 3 years ago

    minimum wage $50,000, Maximum wage $1,000,000

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