Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau

Doonesbury

Comments (57) (Please sign in to comment)

  1. leftwingpatriot

    leftwingpatriot said, over 2 years ago

    Forget the rankings, go for the money!

  2. Linguist

    Linguist said, over 2 years ago

    Waldon U – We’re here for You
    ( and, we guess,
    that government largess )

  3. DylanThomas3.14159

    DylanThomas3.14159 said, over 2 years ago

    Gordon Gekko character in movie “Wall Street”:
    π
    “Greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures, the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge, has marked the upward surge of mankind and greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the U.S.A.”

    WALDEN DOESN’T NEED TO EDUCATE. WALDEN NEEDS TO MAKE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

  4. dtroutma

    dtroutma GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    Remember folks, “government” can’t create jobs, except at Liberty University!!

  5. DylanThomas3.14159

    DylanThomas3.14159 said, over 2 years ago

    @TheAwesomeBoiseStateBroncoFan

    “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”
    —1 Timothy 6:10 KJV

  6. capndunzzl

    capndunzzl said, over 2 years ago

    …we’re only in it for the money….the real jobs are out sourced to other countries anyway.

  7. SusanSunshine

    SusanSunshine GoComics PRO Member said, over 2 years ago

    I always thought Walden WAS a for-profit school,
    and that’s why they took Zipper and his ilk when they couldn’t get into “real” schools.

  8. Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist said, over 2 years ago

    Talking to yourself, lwp?:D

  9. Doughfoot

    Doughfoot said, over 2 years ago

    I got my MS through an online program. Never saw the campus before graduation day. But at least there was a campus, and a graduation day. Got to walk across the stage in the gym and receive my diploma from the president of the college. White beard and all. (Me not him.) And earning that degree was no cinch.
    Online education fills a niche, and online university programs can be a good thing. There was no program within commuting distance (none in the state, actually) and there was no other way for me to get that degree without quitting my job, and leaving my house and spouse behind.
    But some of these places don’t even deserve to be called diploma mills. They pitch their programs as great ways to get a degree and get a better job. The credential earned is of questionable value, and very few students earn even that. The school raises unrealistic expectations, suggests the task of finishing the program is much easier than it actually is, and encourages the student to take out loans (veterans are a prime target) to finance it. Half the time, or more, the student discovers that he just can’t do it. These are people often without the skills needed, who are holding down jobs or trying to support a family or have other difficulties. So he finally quits the program without a degree, and worse off than before. Now he has an uncompleted education (which doesn’t generally impress an employer) and a big fat student debt to repay. The “university’s” owners make a nice profit, and the instructors get paid (though not as well as if that worked in a real school), and the taxpayers and the students are left holding the bag. All perfectly legal, but it smells like scam to me.
    Perhaps the problem is the loans. But I don’t exactly know the solution. Making loans to veterans and others to help them get a better education seems like a good idea, nobody likes the idea of “big brother” telling which schools you can or can’t enroll in, or, worse, telling you that you can’t have the loan because you are not capable of making proper use of the opportunity. And government investments of all kinds are always made at a higher risk. Sure things never need government loans because private loans can always be had for sure things. But common sense would suggest that loans made with public money ought still to be make with a degree common prudence.
    Fortunately there has been some movement in the right direction. Institutions like the University of Phoenix are no long hiring recruiters and salesmen to go out there and sign up students, paying them commissions on each enrollment, acting like the realtors who talked naive people into houses and mortgages that they could not reasonably expect to pay off.
    And in all fairness, it should be noted that not everyone who enrolls in one of these programs intends to earn a degree. Sometimes they just want to take a few courses. So a portion of the 2/3 of students who drop out should not actually be held against the institution.

    Nevertheless, as usual, GBT is pointing out a real problem here, if (cartoon-wise) there is some hyperbole at work.

  10. Beleck3

    Beleck3 said, over 2 years ago

    well, i see the comic strip is back to its’ usual themes. i was curious as to what we would see.

    Failure factories get $32 billion, wow. educating the public is why i like Doonesbury. wonder what’s next?

  11. rpmdbs

    rpmdbs said, over 2 years ago

    $32 billion? The entire public school system is a conglomerate failure factory that sucks up far more than this amount.

  12. Gokie5

    Gokie5 said, over 2 years ago

    @SUSAN NEWMAN

    “How come nobody has mentioned “affirmative action” yet?”
    bhinkle kind of alluded to it, above. Over 90% of the students at FAMU (Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University) are black, according to sources mentioned by Google.

  13. Travis Bickel

    Travis Bickel said, over 2 years ago

    Just another example of how the government can really
    screw-up the free market system like they did
    with the housing/mortgage bubble. SNAFU

  14. sys1wcb

    sys1wcb said, over 2 years ago

    This is all from a guy whose parents could afford to send him to Yale.
    And has anyone connected the free flow of federal aid to the rising tuition costs?

  15. Spamgaard

    Spamgaard said, over 2 years ago

    @SusanSunshine

    “Not-for-profit” is such a misnomer. The university I currently work for is a not-for-profit, just ask any of the staff below the level of director. None of them are profiting! The upper echelons keep adding $100k+ directors and VPs below them to justify their own existence and to increase their own compensation, while the university claims poverty when it comes time to offer raises that don’t meet inflation as they simultaneously increase co-pays on benefits and increase fees.

    A few of the things that increase the odds of your getting into college:

    • You are a development case
    • You are an athlete
    • You are a legacy
    • You are a private pay applicant
    • You are very smart and not a nutter

  16. Load 15 more comments. | Load the rest (42).