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That’s one of the maddening things about the whole Health Care debate: some people’s fears of what “government bureaucrats” might do while they are unquestioningly handing over that exact same power to “corporate bureaucrats” with even less accountability.
I can just guess who Mike’s mom’s “authority” might be.
GT is blurring the lines, here — I was at the Washington DC 9-12 rally - and I saw no groups of very mad people like pictured in the 4th panel… That type of group I more associate with the paid-for, bussed-in groups from the ACORN people.
The ironic part about this is that the seniors are being led to protest something THEY ALREADY HAVE. Ah well. What’s politics without irony and hyprocrisy, really? (That wasn’t redundant by the way - I’m not sure politics without those can be called politics anymore.)
What barticle35 said…yeah… M Smokey, do you think that maybe that’s the reason they’re trying with the greenhouse effect to lessen the polar bear pop, to make room for the seniors? :P Oh I love warped ethics coupled with bad politics and special interest topics;)
If we maintain things as is our healthcare costs will double within the next ten years! This is what is scary! Who will be able to afford it then? As for those who want to keep others from receiving healthcare, look out! You are only one job loss away from losing your own healthcare under the current system which has been built by George W. Bush. Obama has been in office for 8 months, not 8 years. Jobs are scarce and it will take some time to change things.
scanlonwrote: ” and I saw no groups of very mad people like pictured in the 4th panel ”
Several of the town halls in Virginia were full of people so full of hate, so pathetically ignorant, and so incomprehensible, I thought I was at a fundy church where everyone was speaking in tongues.
But they all had their anonyously written e-mail (from an authority) even though factcheck.org had trashed the e-mail.
The problem with a political satire strip like Doonesbury is that some people (probably subconsciously) will think of it like it’s an actual news source.
<< As for those who want to keep others from receiving healthcare, look out! >>
You mean “others” like seniors & anyone else who would be considered not financially worth treating under Obamacare?
I heard some wingnut swearing that 80 million boomers will be quite a voting force. I countered with how do they fall demographically? Remember that minorities and lower (poor) class vote dem. AND, how will they stack up as a force against the hispanic block?
Of course, the others I was referring to are those who don’t currently have health care. Many will be joining them soon if we maintain the status quo. What is so difficult about this to understand? What if LBJ had not championed Medicare? Ever think about that? Medicare is taken for granted now. Obama has no intention of Medicare going away. Medicare was brought about by a Democrat. It would never have been championed by a Republican. I think those who are against changing the current system should consider how they will pay twice the price they currently paying. Let’s get a grip on reality. No one is saying that the elderly will not have what they currently have. Priorities need to change. If you think it is so important to maintain the military industrial complex,as referred to by Dwight D. Eisenhower, by the way, you might have a difficult time understanding this, I know. Times are changing. Deal with it. Let’s talk about what is really important instead of the silly side tracks. One day this will all be over and again everyone will take for granted that of course we have healthcare in this country which is affordable to everyone. The conservatives are always behind in their way of thinking. Nothing new here.
Back in the 1980s, my father who was over 65 used to get upset at his friends who congregated on a neighbor’s front porch when they complained about the Democrats.
He told them that none of them would be drawing a Social Security Pension nor have Medicare if it had not been for the Democrats.
None of them had cable TV nor the internet, so their rumor sources came from elsewhere.
Some ignorant people believe that anyone born in the 1940s is a “baby boomer;” but, the Baby Boom began in 1946 since World War II ended in 1945. Baby Boomers are post World War II babies.
The Baby Boomer period began about 9 months after the US Military released the personnel from active duty.
My younger sister is a Baby Boomer, born in ‘46; but, Dad didn’t have to serve in WWII.
Never under estimate to power of large groups of ignorant people. I was talking to a person at work who was dead set against Pres. Obama health care plan because it was socialist and would interfer with Medicaid. He was certain that Medicaid was not socialist and was not government sponsered health care.
So why hasn’t Medicare / Medicaid solved this “healthcare problem” already? Isn’t that what it was designed to do? I’m seriously at a loss to figure out how more of the same from the Federal Government will make things any better. Everyone who works for a living is already being taxed to pay for healthcare whether they receive it or not. Will the addition of 30 million or 46 million (I’ve heard both numbers used by the administration) people who are now uninsured make things cheaper somehow, especially when Medicare / Medicaid will remain in place and a whole new organization will be built on top of it? In its quest to weed out the few who would defraud the system, the rules for the many have become so convoluted that everything both sides talk about as being bad either with Government run or privately run healthcare are all true.
Are you young and healthy and have better things to do with your money than spend it on health insurance? Too bad. You’re gonna hafta pay. And they call it an “option”.
psc, you already pay for health insurance if you’re young healthy and have better things to do with your money. Look at the deductions for Medicare on your pay stub.
G.B. Trudeau’s Doonesbury is currently in its thirty-ninth year, tracking its eighth presidential administration. Trudeau maintains his studio in New York and his Web presence at www.doonesbury.com.
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Margueritem
said,
2 months ago
Don’t rile us seniors!
barticle35
said,
2 months ago
We already have death panels. They’re called HMO’s.
StrangeTikiGod said, 2 months ago
But how are we gonna get our Soylent Green, then?
Alabama_Al said, 2 months ago
That’s one of the maddening things about the whole Health Care debate: some people’s fears of what “government bureaucrats” might do while they are unquestioningly handing over that exact same power to “corporate bureaucrats” with even less accountability.
I can just guess who Mike’s mom’s “authority” might be.
3hourtour said, 2 months ago
..see what happens when they make pot legal…
Nemesys said, 2 months ago
Garry’s back! And just in time to make fun of seniors.
When Sarah Palin’s Facebook blog has more credibility with seniors than does the “big 3” network news, there’s a fundamental problem somewhere.
NoBrandName said, 2 months ago
No dipping the toes here, we dive right in…
Jo Jo said, 2 months ago
Go get ‘em, Garry.
Lewreader
said,
2 months ago
Beware, seniors vote in large numbers
BobMcK said, 2 months ago
Finally GT is going after the ObamaCare–even if he does it by supporting it. He is such a lackey.
tommyscanlon
said,
2 months ago
GT is blurring the lines, here — I was at the Washington DC 9-12 rally - and I saw no groups of very mad people like pictured in the 4th panel… That type of group I more associate with the paid-for, bussed-in groups from the ACORN people.
M Smokey said, 2 months ago
Time to put mom out on the ice floe!
Nick V said, 2 months ago
The ironic part about this is that the seniors are being led to protest something THEY ALREADY HAVE. Ah well. What’s politics without irony and hyprocrisy, really? (That wasn’t redundant by the way - I’m not sure politics without those can be called politics anymore.)
SPDworks said, 2 months ago
What barticle35 said…yeah… M Smokey, do you think that maybe that’s the reason they’re trying with the greenhouse effect to lessen the polar bear pop, to make room for the seniors? :P Oh I love warped ethics coupled with bad politics and special interest topics;)
montessoriteacher said, 2 months ago
If we maintain things as is our healthcare costs will double within the next ten years! This is what is scary! Who will be able to afford it then? As for those who want to keep others from receiving healthcare, look out! You are only one job loss away from losing your own healthcare under the current system which has been built by George W. Bush. Obama has been in office for 8 months, not 8 years. Jobs are scarce and it will take some time to change things.
montessoriteacher said, 2 months ago
Oops, I guess now it has been almost 9 months since we elected our new prez.
montessoriteacher said, 2 months ago
9 months. Yes, the Obama presidency is still very young.
misterwhite said, 2 months ago
scanlonwrote: ” and I saw no groups of very mad people like pictured in the 4th panel ”
Several of the town halls in Virginia were full of people so full of hate, so pathetically ignorant, and so incomprehensible, I thought I was at a fundy church where everyone was speaking in tongues.
But they all had their anonyously written e-mail (from an authority) even though factcheck.org had trashed the e-mail.
misterwhite said, 2 months ago
I love the following line from Bill Maher:
“Let’s replace town halls with study halls”.
If people actually understood the issues, they would be far less angry and a sane dialog could commence.
plus4 said, 2 months ago
The problem with a political satire strip like Doonesbury is that some people (probably subconsciously) will think of it like it’s an actual news source.
<< As for those who want to keep others from receiving healthcare, look out! >>
You mean “others” like seniors & anyone else who would be considered not financially worth treating under Obamacare?
Orgelspieler said, 2 months ago
Seniors vote in large numbers, which would be less scary for the rest of us, if they actually knew what they were voting for.
Potrzebie said, 2 months ago
I heard some wingnut swearing that 80 million boomers will be quite a voting force. I countered with how do they fall demographically? Remember that minorities and lower (poor) class vote dem. AND, how will they stack up as a force against the hispanic block?
cholldekkgher stenst... said, 2 months ago
Next thing she’s gonna do is start chanting slogans like, “Kill for Peace” or “Nixon’s the One” or stuff like that.
montessoriteacher said, 2 months ago
Of course, the others I was referring to are those who don’t currently have health care. Many will be joining them soon if we maintain the status quo. What is so difficult about this to understand? What if LBJ had not championed Medicare? Ever think about that? Medicare is taken for granted now. Obama has no intention of Medicare going away. Medicare was brought about by a Democrat. It would never have been championed by a Republican. I think those who are against changing the current system should consider how they will pay twice the price they currently paying. Let’s get a grip on reality. No one is saying that the elderly will not have what they currently have. Priorities need to change. If you think it is so important to maintain the military industrial complex,as referred to by Dwight D. Eisenhower, by the way, you might have a difficult time understanding this, I know. Times are changing. Deal with it. Let’s talk about what is really important instead of the silly side tracks. One day this will all be over and again everyone will take for granted that of course we have healthcare in this country which is affordable to everyone. The conservatives are always behind in their way of thinking. Nothing new here.
Joe Allen Doty said, 2 months ago
Back in the 1980s, my father who was over 65 used to get upset at his friends who congregated on a neighbor’s front porch when they complained about the Democrats.
He told them that none of them would be drawing a Social Security Pension nor have Medicare if it had not been for the Democrats.
None of them had cable TV nor the internet, so their rumor sources came from elsewhere.
Some ignorant people believe that anyone born in the 1940s is a “baby boomer;” but, the Baby Boom began in 1946 since World War II ended in 1945. Baby Boomers are post World War II babies.
The Baby Boomer period began about 9 months after the US Military released the personnel from active duty.
My younger sister is a Baby Boomer, born in ‘46; but, Dad didn’t have to serve in WWII.
Maizing said, 2 months ago
Uncle Jay ( http://unclejayexplains.com/2009/09/13/uncle-jay-explains-sept-14-2009/ ) has it right… the supporters of the health care reform bill never talk about the complete package, they just pick out little parts of it that look good and tell you to support the whole thing.
But the opponents are no different, they pick out the parts that look bad and tell you to hate the whole thing.
Susan001 said, 2 months ago
Mike’s mother needs to realize that there is Someone higher than the government who will decide when she goes.
Badto Thebone said, 2 months ago
Never under estimate to power of large groups of ignorant people. I was talking to a person at work who was dead set against Pres. Obama health care plan because it was socialist and would interfer with Medicaid. He was certain that Medicaid was not socialist and was not government sponsered health care.
Ira Nayman said, 2 months ago
I love how the protesters have recycled a slogan from the anti-war movement of the 1960s.
Ron
said,
2 months ago
It’s still around cause it’s still around…
rricchhterr said, 2 months ago
the moral majority has trouble recognizing morals
and we seem to be more interested in blame
then we are change…
this is across-the-board
has nothing to do with demography,
from here…
OldHipster said, 2 months ago
Been there, done that, bought every bleeep t-shirt available.
Made up a few, too!!
Ya heard me?
MisngNOLA
said,
2 months ago
So why hasn’t Medicare / Medicaid solved this “healthcare problem” already? Isn’t that what it was designed to do? I’m seriously at a loss to figure out how more of the same from the Federal Government will make things any better. Everyone who works for a living is already being taxed to pay for healthcare whether they receive it or not. Will the addition of 30 million or 46 million (I’ve heard both numbers used by the administration) people who are now uninsured make things cheaper somehow, especially when Medicare / Medicaid will remain in place and a whole new organization will be built on top of it? In its quest to weed out the few who would defraud the system, the rules for the many have become so convoluted that everything both sides talk about as being bad either with Government run or privately run healthcare are all true.
pschearer
said,
2 months ago
Are you young and healthy and have better things to do with your money than spend it on health insurance? Too bad. You’re gonna hafta pay. And they call it an “option”.
MisngNOLA
said,
2 months ago
psc, you already pay for health insurance if you’re young healthy and have better things to do with your money. Look at the deductions for Medicare on your pay stub.