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Since I cannot cast the first stone, let me cast the first comment.
Hypocritical Pharisees! Your power and wealth will not see you into Jesus’s heaven.
Makes me glad I’m an atheist as I would be ashamed to have to acknowledge them as christian “brothers”…
“Qdata”, I suspect that yours and a typical Klansman’s theology probably agree on more topics than disagree. However, I also suspect you would probably not wish to claim Klansmen as “brothers”.
Pharisees is a very good analogy. Getting so obsessed with following the letter of the written word that the ideas behind it are completely obscured, and even negated. And the “written word” was an oral history for many years prior to it being “written”. Anyone ever play “telephone”???? And hand copyists, as happened for centuries, are not much better!
THAT IS NOT BILL CLINTON! The guy at the door is a member of the GOP; therefore, he is a Republican.
There was no Bibles for “Christians” when “God breathed” was written in a New Testament Epistle.
“God breathed” can be better translated as “God inspired,” meaning the authors of the works finally put into a Bible wrote by “inspiration of the Holy Spirit.” God Breathed, or God inspired, does not mean “God dictated.”
Sure looks like Slick Willy to me. He was always one to blow in the wind anyway - if he thinks the GOP is making a comeback, watch him drop his awful wife on the concrete and “Rush” over to the other side of the aisle. And I seem to remember him raising Christianity more often than his pseudo Conservative successor.
okeedoekee wrote: “For people who belive and have faith, the wriiten word is of the Holy spirit. God breathed. No mistakes. ”
Then why has man chosen to take the god breathed word and change it more times that the New York telephone directory? How is it a being with aseity can’t make sure a pristine copy gets into the hands of each generation born?
Scholars believe that there are between 2-1/2 and 5 million differences between the 5600 Greek NT writings we have in our possession. Only 80% are editorial mistakes of the copyists.
Of course, that doesn’t include the 30 Gospels of Jesus that didn’t make the vote to get included into the NT canon.
This strip is of course referring to the C street address of the ultra - conservative religious organization that is the place where many politicians, mostly Republicans rent rooms. Here they have prayer cells. The group has kept a low profile until recently when 3 of it’s members became involved in sex scandals - South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, Nevada Sen. john Ensign and former Mississippi Rep. Chip Pickering.
orgelspieler Re: “GJ_J - I suppose you’ve heard of hot-button issues, neh?”
Yes indeed - yesterday’s Doonesbury was full of Extra Red Hot-Button Issues! Glad to see more Rational Discussions (so far) today!
I trust the word of God.
I do not always trust the word of human editors.
okeedoekee - The Holy Spirit helps to weed out the parts that have been changed too much.
Qdata: as an atheist, I have the freedom to pick those whom I would honor. Folks like Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi… but not the guy who said “kill them all, God will know his own”, who claimed to be a Christian, doing God’s work of course, killing 20,000 to get to a small number of “heretics”.
LIke a good Catholic, “Absolve me of my sins and help me commit more.” Do these gop “christians” actually read and understand what that book is trying to teach them? Doubtful. If they want to run around on their wives, thats cool. Just don’t point fingers and tell people how to live their lives.
I geuss the “let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone” parable is lost on these “christian” jack offs.
Great strip! It looks like everybody’s pissed off about it for one reason or another. (All religious denominations, all political parties, and even Nazis.) Keep up the good work!
It says ‘GOP Lawmaker’ so I’m betting a fictitious congressman, probably a composite of Ensign, Pickering and probably a few others, maybe even with a bit of Clinton thrown in.
Sorry, JTPozenel, but as a pagan, I find the monotheistic vs atheistic hooraw to be quite entertaining at my remove. Not offended by this strip at all. I think the hypocrisy of the people who wrap themselves in the mantle of an allegedly perfect god to shield themselves from their own imperfections is a perfect target for mockery. Forgetting their god shows flaws in their own texts is priceless.
Let me make sure I understand here - the Bible is absolutely true, except it CAN’T be, because the Torah is true, except it CAN”T be, because the Koran is the true word, except it CAN’T be, because the Bible is the actual truth, except…..
You can BELIEVE anything you want, but believing the sun rises in the west and sets in the east does not make it so.
i got a feeling i’m going to be reading without commenting for the next little while. as a canadian, i don’t know near enough about the issue being satirized here, but will hope to be educated. i’m glad to see today’s comment thread remains civilized and cool headed, and hope it remains so for the next while. thanks all.
Hmmm. wasn’t it that Jesus guy who said “Blessed are the Meek for they shall inherit the Earth”? Now who was that other guy who would grant you power and riches in exchange for your loyalty? I think the Church Lady would know of whom I speak…
@ushindi, I just want to add one comment (since everything else has already been said by somebody here):
just because one thing is true doesn’t mean that the opposite thing must be false. That only applies to a certain kind of mathematics. There are other kinds.
Rina: Because the sun DOES rise in the East, yes, it DOES mean the opposite is false, and you appear to be blaming the messenger here. I don’t teach that any particular religion is the ONE way to get to heaven, RELIGIONS do. I just referred to this well-known point.
G.B. Trudeau’s Doonesbury is currently in its thirty-ninth year, tracking its eighth presidential administration. Trudeau maintains his studio in New York and his Web presence at www.doonesbury.com.
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baslim_the_begger
said,
3 months ago
Since I cannot cast the first stone, let me cast the first comment.
Hypocritical Pharisees! Your power and wealth will not see you into Jesus’s heaven.
Makes me glad I’m an atheist as I would be ashamed to have to acknowledge them as christian “brothers”…
Qdata said, 3 months ago
I see, Baslim, so you would rather as an atheist acknowledge Stalin and Hitler as brothers?
nagut said, 3 months ago
Hitler was a catholic. Check your facts, qdata.
3hourtour said, 3 months ago
..”The Lord uses the good ones/the bad ones use The Lord”,Michael Stanley
Alabama_Al said, 3 months ago
“Qdata”, I suspect that yours and a typical Klansman’s theology probably agree on more topics than disagree. However, I also suspect you would probably not wish to claim Klansmen as “brothers”.
nagut said, 3 months ago
“The Lord uses the good ones/the bad ones use The Lord”
How convenient. So whatever happens, it’s not the Lord’s fault?
okeedoekee said, 3 months ago
Who can give councel to the Lord?
And what does God have to do with “The Family” anyway?
NADA
Lewreader
said,
3 months ago
Now son, trust the great leaders of our country. After all, who elected them?
Avolunteer said, 3 months ago
Pharisees is a very good analogy. Getting so obsessed with following the letter of the written word that the ideas behind it are completely obscured, and even negated. And the “written word” was an oral history for many years prior to it being “written”. Anyone ever play “telephone”???? And hand copyists, as happened for centuries, are not much better!
CogentModality said, 3 months ago
How convenient. So whatever happens, it’s not the Lord’s fault?
Ever heard of “free will’?
okeedoekee said, 3 months ago
Play “telephone???”
For people who belive and have faith, the wriiten word is of the Holy spirit. God breathed. No mistakes.
GJ_Jehosaphat
said,
3 months ago
Sacré bleu! Open up some windows! It’s getting rather stuffy in here with all this Biblical Blatherings!
I LOL at the last panel regarding getting a room for his Girlfriend
Orgelspieler said, 3 months ago
GJ_J - I suppose you’ve heard of hot-button issues, neh?
Joe Allen Doty said, 3 months ago
THAT IS NOT BILL CLINTON! The guy at the door is a member of the GOP; therefore, he is a Republican.
There was no Bibles for “Christians” when “God breathed” was written in a New Testament Epistle.
“God breathed” can be better translated as “God inspired,” meaning the authors of the works finally put into a Bible wrote by “inspiration of the Holy Spirit.” God Breathed, or God inspired, does not mean “God dictated.”
Guilden_NL said, 3 months ago
Sure looks like Slick Willy to me. He was always one to blow in the wind anyway - if he thinks the GOP is making a comeback, watch him drop his awful wife on the concrete and “Rush” over to the other side of the aisle. And I seem to remember him raising Christianity more often than his pseudo Conservative successor.
misterwhite said, 3 months ago
okeedoekee wrote: “For people who belive and have faith, the wriiten word is of the Holy spirit. God breathed. No mistakes. ”
Then why has man chosen to take the god breathed word and change it more times that the New York telephone directory? How is it a being with aseity can’t make sure a pristine copy gets into the hands of each generation born?
Scholars believe that there are between 2-1/2 and 5 million differences between the 5600 Greek NT writings we have in our possession. Only 80% are editorial mistakes of the copyists.
Of course, that doesn’t include the 30 Gospels of Jesus that didn’t make the vote to get included into the NT canon.
cleokaya
said,
3 months ago
This strip is of course referring to the C street address of the ultra - conservative religious organization that is the place where many politicians, mostly Republicans rent rooms. Here they have prayer cells. The group has kept a low profile until recently when 3 of it’s members became involved in sex scandals - South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, Nevada Sen. john Ensign and former Mississippi Rep. Chip Pickering.
cleokaya
said,
3 months ago
Pickering has been accused of using the house as a place to have sex with his mistress.
Freezing said, 3 months ago
The hallmark of good political satire is when the author takes on those in power. Not going to happen with this strip.
GJ_Jehosaphat
said,
3 months ago
orgelspieler Re: “GJ_J - I suppose you’ve heard of hot-button issues, neh?”
Yes indeed - yesterday’s Doonesbury was full of Extra Red Hot-Button Issues! Glad to see more Rational Discussions (so far) today!
Doctor Toon
said,
3 months ago
I trust the word of God.
I do not always trust the word of human editors.
okeedoekee - The Holy Spirit helps to weed out the parts that have been changed too much.
baslim_the_begger
said,
3 months ago
Qdata: as an atheist, I have the freedom to pick those whom I would honor. Folks like Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi… but not the guy who said “kill them all, God will know his own”, who claimed to be a Christian, doing God’s work of course, killing 20,000 to get to a small number of “heretics”.
thepeoplesmushroom said, 3 months ago
LIke a good Catholic, “Absolve me of my sins and help me commit more.” Do these gop “christians” actually read and understand what that book is trying to teach them? Doubtful. If they want to run around on their wives, thats cool. Just don’t point fingers and tell people how to live their lives.
I geuss the “let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone” parable is lost on these “christian” jack offs.
jtpozenel said, 3 months ago
Great strip! It looks like everybody’s pissed off about it for one reason or another. (All religious denominations, all political parties, and even Nazis.) Keep up the good work!
EScott2U said, 3 months ago
It says ‘GOP Lawmaker’ so I’m betting a fictitious congressman, probably a composite of Ensign, Pickering and probably a few others, maybe even with a bit of Clinton thrown in.
BlueRaven said, 3 months ago
Sorry, JTPozenel, but as a pagan, I find the monotheistic vs atheistic hooraw to be quite entertaining at my remove. Not offended by this strip at all. I think the hypocrisy of the people who wrap themselves in the mantle of an allegedly perfect god to shield themselves from their own imperfections is a perfect target for mockery. Forgetting their god shows flaws in their own texts is priceless.
Ushindi
said,
3 months ago
Let me make sure I understand here - the Bible is absolutely true, except it CAN’T be, because the Torah is true, except it CAN”T be, because the Koran is the true word, except it CAN’T be, because the Bible is the actual truth, except…..
You can BELIEVE anything you want, but believing the sun rises in the west and sets in the east does not make it so.
Somnambulance said, 3 months ago
WOW! After 35 years Trudeau still pisses everybody off. Amazing work Garry. Keep it up!
silverscream
said,
3 months ago
I’m very happy to see Trudeau is back doing the political satire he is so very good at. Bite um all on the butt Gary!
wndrwrthg
said,
3 months ago
Remember this and keep it holy: Man created god in his own image.
yyyguy
said,
3 months ago
i got a feeling i’m going to be reading without commenting for the next little while. as a canadian, i don’t know near enough about the issue being satirized here, but will hope to be educated. i’m glad to see today’s comment thread remains civilized and cool headed, and hope it remains so for the next while. thanks all.
ezdeb said, 3 months ago
Yes, republicans sin, but they’re “special”. Democrats sin and it’s evil. Republicans sin and they’re misunderstood. Victims! Victims!
ajn465 said, 3 months ago
Hmmm. wasn’t it that Jesus guy who said “Blessed are the Meek for they shall inherit the Earth”? Now who was that other guy who would grant you power and riches in exchange for your loyalty? I think the Church Lady would know of whom I speak…
RinaFarina said, 3 months ago
@ushindi, I just want to add one comment (since everything else has already been said by somebody here):
just because one thing is true doesn’t mean that the opposite thing must be false. That only applies to a certain kind of mathematics. There are other kinds.
4deerinmyyard
said,
3 months ago
Quite true, Rina; and it’s a pity symbolic logic isn’t taught in elementary school.
But then, that would really shorten the comments section….
Wildcard24365 said, 3 months ago
baslim & Qdata:
You can’t choose your family. Go fig. ;-)
Ushindi
said,
3 months ago
Rina: Because the sun DOES rise in the East, yes, it DOES mean the opposite is false, and you appear to be blaming the messenger here. I don’t teach that any particular religion is the ONE way to get to heaven, RELIGIONS do. I just referred to this well-known point.