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  1. scottfreitas

    scottfreitasGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Saturn: Now Joining Hudson, Packard, Desoto, Studebaker, etc in being “A Different Kind of Car Company”

  2. lainworks

    lainworksGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    If they’d make the electric car again, they’d sell a gazillion and be GM’s main profit center. I like mine, too.

  3. NoFearPup

    NoFearPupGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    I think people might give up driving before they’d switch to electric…

  4. BOB HASTY

    BOB HASTYGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Hey! Scott!! That list of yours has some classic cars. Studebaker, at least, was destroyed by a jealous US car industry. GM could not handle the cultural paradigm shift created in Saturn. It’s too bad GM started destroying that culture so thoroughly that Penske couldn’t recover the magic!

  5. Bluejayz

    Bluejayz said, about 1 month ago

    I’m driving a ‘99 Saturn with 202,000, and I still get 35 mpg. Obviously GM and Detroit had the technology to compete in today’s market, but they bet on behemouth gas-guzzlers instead. They should have gotten rid of the Chevy land yachts and kept Saturn. They’d be $$$ ahead now.

  6. Richard

    Richard said, about 1 month ago

    at the time GM launched Saturn, it was pointed out they could have purchased Toyota for what they spent for the launch. I think if you count initial capitalization, they never made money. Sad, some of the Saturn cars were cool and reliable (others, I concede, not so much ….)

  7. harleyquinn

    harleyquinnGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Saturn was doing Ok till the Unions got a hold of it.

  8. wolfhoundblues1

    wolfhoundblues1 said, about 1 month ago

    Remember the EV-1

  9. travelgirl

    travelgirl said, about 1 month ago

    my ‘95 SL gets 30mpg in city, almost 40 on the highways… i keep wondering if i should get a newer car, then notice that almost none of them get my mileage, and it still drives really well at 170k…

  10. believecommonsense

    believecommonsenseGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    yes, remember the EV-1 absolutely! the electric car that surpassed expectations so it had to be crushed, literally.

  11. toasteroven

    toasteroven said, about 1 month ago

    I’m a Chevy man, myself.

  12. Ken Warren

    Ken Warren said, about 1 month ago

    harleyquinn - Management killed Saturn, when it was lauched it was suppose to be completely seperate from GM, build it own cars, have it own program and policy, and be completely different in how it treated buyers. There was to be no price hangleing, annual events for owners, and no sharing models with Chevy.

    Even before it could be launched the top brass scrapped most of these ideas. For years the management at Chevy, Buick, and even Ponitic waged war on Saturn until it was just anouther GM product. Some Saturns are really Ponitics, some are GM Germany, and some from Australia. Unions had nothing to do with it.

  13. cjr53

    cjr53 said, about 1 month ago

    In 2000, I looked at Toyota, Nissan, Saturn and Honda.

    Honda and Saturn made the top of the list. There was only $5 difference between them. I sat in the Saturn, had to drive for an hour for that pleasure. The center console really made the Saturn feel cramped. The Honda dealer was only 5 minutes from my home. Spacious and similarly priced, I of course bought the Honda. Still love it. Best car I’ve ever owned.

    The last time I looked at KBB, the Honda was worth about $4,500 more than the Saturn I chose to pass on.

  14. omQ R

    omQ RGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    Ken said: “Some Saturns are really Ponitics, some are GM Germany, and some from Australia.

    Oh, I had a look at what you guys call the Saturn and noticed you have the Astra. That’s what I drive! Except around here it’s called the Vauxhall Astra (and I have the LPG model) while on mainland Europe it’s the Opel Astra. Both are (were) GM Europe.
    I heard GM Europe is being sold to a Canadian car parts manufacturer, Magna, backed by a Russian bank.

    To be honest, I should have gone for the Volvo.
    Meh.

  15. Ken Warren

    Ken Warren said, about 1 month ago

    One other sad note: Since Saturn is part of GM all of the top management people, who made the decision that put Saturn into this position, are being absorbed into GM, while those who make and sell the cars are out of a job.

  16. nomad2112

    nomad2112 said, about 1 month ago

    Saturn, you were a long time coming and, you’ll be a long time gone. :(

  17. stebon

    stebon said, about 1 month ago

    Saturn was thrown under the bus when Penske was told by the Obamanation adminsitration and its union thugs that he could neither renegotiate labor contracts nor abrogate them to put Saturn on the same footing as Toyota, Honda, or any foreign make produced in the US. Since this would keep Penske’s Saturns from profitability through price competition; he realized any effort to produce cars without the unions and government interference would be futile.

    Isn’t european socialism wonderful?

  18. Ken Warren

    Ken Warren said, about 1 month ago

    stebon – those weren’t union thugs, they were non-union thugs so they were cheaper, and you didn’t have to provide health care or pay a living wage.

  19. nomad2112

    nomad2112 said, about 1 month ago

    It’s all irrelevant since they haven’t made Saturns since what 2002, 2004? What was currently in the showrooms was just re-badged imports.

  20. sailb

    sailbGenius_badge said, about 1 month ago

    if your ox is a Saturn, this
    jab at the baddies is welcome