One of the most important issues is about adoption. If you live in a state where you cannot adopt children unless you are married, even civil unions will do you no good. This is sad what with all of the orphans and otherwise abandoned children who are doomed to be thrown out on the street when they come of age. Hoosexuals don’t abuse kids any more than heterosexuals do, and deserve to have the opportunity to be loving parents for these lost kids.
Back in the 18th century, Samuel Johnson called a second marriage, “The triumph of hope over experience.” For me, my second marriage has been a big success. Sixteen years together, eleven of them married, and going strong. And I’m even on good, even friendly, terms with my first wife. In my state, the GOP got through an amendment to the state constitution banned same-sex marriage, which would be bad enough, but I suspect most voters didn’t think much beyond that. For the amendment also bans civil unions, partnerships, or anything analogous to marriage in any way, the state refusing to recognize any rights or claims based on any relationship other than legal marriage. If the amendment were taken seriously, and enforce consistently, it would eliminate “palimony” and undercut the rights of many heterosexual but unmarried couples. But of course it won’t be enforced except to deny gay couples legal rights.
Whatever the failed relationship – straight or gay – the fight over the division of property is ubiquitous and sometime iniquitous . Many property disputes are exacerbated by divorce attorneys. Even family pets can be a source of bitter argument .I once acquired an incredibly wonderful St. Bernard dog as a result of a custody dispute between the two divorcing owners.As a severely wounded veteran of the divorce and separation wars, myself , ( several tours of domestic combat ), my advice to guys is to just give them the house and a car ahead of time, and save the grief and aggravation later !
So, the state of VT allows anyone, straight or gay, to enter the state and marry, but in order to divorce you must be a resident. I am going to assume that not all of the gay couples who went to marry in VT are currently together. Since those marriages are not legal in other states, they can’t divorce. What if they decide to remarry elsewhere? And what happens when those marriages are legal nationally?
The GOP is just as much into wealth redistribution. They just want the rich to have more and the middle and working class to have even less. Also, every tax and tariff is always about redistribution. No one likes to pay taxes but we would all lose if we didn’t have decent roads, emergency services, etc. As Oliver Wendell Holmes said, taxes are the price of civilization. I would like to see the GOP start their own state without taxes, especially federal taxes. How long do you really think that would last?
Never seen a presidential candidate whose sole focus is money and paying as little tax personslly as R-money. I’m sure when he loses, he’ll take every cent of that charitable deduction he cancelledto get a refund. Maybe he should have stayed out of politics to become a billionaire…
As I say to all my gay friends — be careful what you ask for — divorce is a bummer. And the custody battles are the worst — joint custody is not what it is cooked up to be. (No, I’m not a bitter ex with kids, but I’ve seen plenty of it as a therapist).
I don’t even believe in that divorce law: Why if you get a divorce should the spouse get half of YOUR things that they didn’t even pay for or earn. I don’t even believe in Alimony: Why if you don’t even have any kids should you have to pay money I EARN AND YOU DON’T to you if you divorce.
BE THIS GUY over 11 years ago
Let it go, Mark. Let it go.
Buzza Wuzza over 11 years ago
really funny
pouncingtiger over 11 years ago
Sorry, Mark. No prenuptial.
mrbribery over 11 years ago
Oh Mark, that will happen in the future, but it will do you no good.
MiepR over 11 years ago
One of the most important issues is about adoption. If you live in a state where you cannot adopt children unless you are married, even civil unions will do you no good. This is sad what with all of the orphans and otherwise abandoned children who are doomed to be thrown out on the street when they come of age. Hoosexuals don’t abuse kids any more than heterosexuals do, and deserve to have the opportunity to be loving parents for these lost kids.
rne over 11 years ago
The carpets have probably aged a lot too!
roctor over 11 years ago
Marriage is not the definition of a stable relationship.
The Nihilist over 11 years ago
and the lawyer’s shall reap the profits from an entirely new segment of people in the practice of family law.
ChasOldMan over 11 years ago
As a lawyer, I can’t wait for gay marriage! Please, do it!
asa4ever over 11 years ago
I do not believe in gay marriage. Actually, I don’t believe in marriage at all. Three time loser.
Doughfoot over 11 years ago
Back in the 18th century, Samuel Johnson called a second marriage, “The triumph of hope over experience.” For me, my second marriage has been a big success. Sixteen years together, eleven of them married, and going strong. And I’m even on good, even friendly, terms with my first wife. In my state, the GOP got through an amendment to the state constitution banned same-sex marriage, which would be bad enough, but I suspect most voters didn’t think much beyond that. For the amendment also bans civil unions, partnerships, or anything analogous to marriage in any way, the state refusing to recognize any rights or claims based on any relationship other than legal marriage. If the amendment were taken seriously, and enforce consistently, it would eliminate “palimony” and undercut the rights of many heterosexual but unmarried couples. But of course it won’t be enforced except to deny gay couples legal rights.
AAdoglover Premium Member over 11 years ago
The only good thing in this debate is that the antique attitudes will fade away as the younger voters, even in very conservative states, take over.
Linguist over 11 years ago
Whatever the failed relationship – straight or gay – the fight over the division of property is ubiquitous and sometime iniquitous . Many property disputes are exacerbated by divorce attorneys. Even family pets can be a source of bitter argument .I once acquired an incredibly wonderful St. Bernard dog as a result of a custody dispute between the two divorcing owners.As a severely wounded veteran of the divorce and separation wars, myself , ( several tours of domestic combat ), my advice to guys is to just give them the house and a car ahead of time, and save the grief and aggravation later !
WW2 Marine Veteran over 11 years ago
At 87 years of age I’m getting too old to change my sex habits. In fact I have lost my sexual drive.
nancy13g over 11 years ago
Um. As of 2010, every one of the 50 states allows a single person to adopt.
route66paul over 11 years ago
If you believe reality TV about all the drama caused by gay divas, gay divorce is a train wreck waiting to happen.
OMG, can you imagine?
Rickapolis over 11 years ago
Mark has aged!
montessoriteacher over 11 years ago
welcome to the married/divorced world guys…
stevetalley7497 over 11 years ago
So, the state of VT allows anyone, straight or gay, to enter the state and marry, but in order to divorce you must be a resident. I am going to assume that not all of the gay couples who went to marry in VT are currently together. Since those marriages are not legal in other states, they can’t divorce. What if they decide to remarry elsewhere? And what happens when those marriages are legal nationally?
montessoriteacher over 11 years ago
The GOP is just as much into wealth redistribution. They just want the rich to have more and the middle and working class to have even less. Also, every tax and tariff is always about redistribution. No one likes to pay taxes but we would all lose if we didn’t have decent roads, emergency services, etc. As Oliver Wendell Holmes said, taxes are the price of civilization. I would like to see the GOP start their own state without taxes, especially federal taxes. How long do you really think that would last?
kaffekup over 11 years ago
Never seen a presidential candidate whose sole focus is money and paying as little tax personslly as R-money. I’m sure when he loses, he’ll take every cent of that charitable deduction he cancelledto get a refund. Maybe he should have stayed out of politics to become a billionaire…
DavyG over 11 years ago
I would like to see Garry Trudeau keep drawing this strip instead, just because it seems to bother some people so much.
lindz.coop Premium Member over 11 years ago
As I say to all my gay friends — be careful what you ask for — divorce is a bummer. And the custody battles are the worst — joint custody is not what it is cooked up to be. (No, I’m not a bitter ex with kids, but I’ve seen plenty of it as a therapist).
greenspot2244 over 1 year ago
I don’t even believe in that divorce law: Why if you get a divorce should the spouse get half of YOUR things that they didn’t even pay for or earn. I don’t even believe in Alimony: Why if you don’t even have any kids should you have to pay money I EARN AND YOU DON’T to you if you divorce.