Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for August 13, 2012

Maybe it will be as successful as Facebook.

Sound the alarm in Canada

But I don’t “get” why Zonk and Zip should find SHOCKING the possibility of Walden selling shares to the public to get tons of $$$$$$$$ both from incurred public debt and government largesse via inane student loans.

I don’t know what you call a prison housing a person because of his debts.

The debt being taken on by students is costing all of us. Many of the most innovative businesses with explosive growth potential are created by young entrepreneurs. The middle and lower-class students who graduate with big debt won’t have that option. Countries who follow the more advanced approach of greater public finance for education will continue to reap the economic benefits. In addition to the young self-employed, high-tech companies move in to take advantage of the rest of the well-educated work force.

We can in invest in our future, or mortgage it for tax cuts for people who don’t need them.

guard sgt: where are the jobs that were created for the tax breaks? the welfare cheats have taken the governments money and done nothing.

Amen to that!

@GuardSGT“the usurper”? Dude, you don’t warrant engagement on any level with that bs. Take your vitriol and misinformation elsewhere, like a Fox page. It doesn’t belong here. It’s the COMICS!

Yes, Speaker Boehner, where are the jobs? “Job creators” who are tax cheats, where are the jobs?

IPO = It’s Probably Overvalued.

National Comments Service . . . Doonesbury Comments Section0953 AM Mon 13The National Comments Service is issuing a troll advisory on Doonesbury comments section for the morning. Comments expected to clear by afternoon with chance of more trolling later this evening . . .

Debtor’s prison? “DEBTORS PRISON?”

Our founding fathers fought a g- f-ing WAR to stop s#!+ like that from happening.

When will people actually wake up and start another revolution over how many freedoms, liberties, and freedoms away from us???

When will the 99% actually revolt against the 1%?

Or is that .0001% who hold the rest of us in slavery?

When taxes are too high it can discourage business. When taxes are too low, it renders the nation and the laws impotent. When the burden of taxation is unjustly distributed and born, it makes the taxes themselves seem illegitimate. Raising and lowering taxes are tools, both of which are useful, and both of which are necessary. To eliminate a deduction raises someone’s taxes. To provide a credit lowers someone’s taxes. No simple-minded one-note solution is any good. Neither “soak the rich” nor “lower taxes” is meaningful solution to any of our fiscal problems. But then, who can expect anything else from a comic strip, let alone a comic strip discussion board?

Today’s trolling effort from Guard SGT.

One definitioin of a troll…it “sounds like a broken record”. Why couldn’t that be a cause for exclusion if flagged by enough of us??

Stop the politcal rants! I think the point is if Walden is accredited. Do the Walden grads actually find good jobs? or is the diploma as worthless as those from Strayer or Phoenix?

The only thing that has been proven to work in an economic disaster is building up the infrastructure even at the expense of rolling up the deficit until employment is stable enough, and then redirecting employment into new channels. Austerity has been proven, over and over again, NOT to work on economic disasters. What got us out of the Great Depression was FDR’s infrastructure programs, followed by World War II. It is to be hoped we can think of something better than a war to rechannel AFTER we rebuild the infrastructure this time. One suggestion is renewable energy.

I like to think of Zipper as his generation’s Paul Revere.

As summer draws to a close, one might want to try out my mint julep recipe posted yesterday. It is definitely a summertime type of drink. One problem with it is that it makes a large batch. If you cut it in half, that may do for 2-3 people if thirsty.Yes, Zipper is sounding the alarm bells! Hear ye, hear ye!

Guard sgt:“If what you type is true, unemployment today would be going down. Instead, it is going up and up.” We have not tried spending on infrastructure. The high speed trains fell through. Austerity is what is being tried. Taxes have not been raised even if they need to be. Hoover Dam is an example of what to do.

Public and private colleges differ on funding sources, but they both run the same business model – which the Information Revolution will make obsolete..Part of the problem is that there are more college degrees than there are college-degree-requires jobs. (This would still be true if the unemployment rate were 4%.) Colleges have been oversold, thus the needed restructuring in higher education will be more painful..Is academia the only institution other than constitutional monarchy that has tenure?

If “right now” you work in the private sector and are “helping to build a small business,” how do you find the time to put all your comments on the website?

Good point, but it will be beyond his understanding. Any task that we want the government to be in charge is socialized, that is, paid for with “society’s” money, meaning tax dollars. Our military is indeed a socialist institution, though less and less lately as more and more Blackwaters and Haliburtons take jobs, and billions in tax money, to do what was formerly done by people in uniform. No constitutional mandate changes this basic principle.

Your icon, slick Willie, was the one who gave most favored nation trade status to China. What really works would be getting all people, who are able, to work at a good job. One they can depend on. One they can tell their children is worth following to. Sadly, those days may never return. We seem to be spiraling downward out of control. All of us, Republicans and Democrats, should find copies of John Brunner’s books. I particularly reccomend “Stand on Zanzibar” and “The Sheep Look Up”. Perhaps we avert destructionbut it will be a hard row to hoe if we do.

“What I type is most needed here.”

Oh, yeah, it’s such a great service to your country to make yourself a pain the ___ to people who, if you would just leave us alone, would be having a constructive conversation about how to move our country forward. In case you haven’t noticed, most of the posters here are well read and educated individuals who see through your simplistic, homey arguments, and know that there is no substance to them, only a blind allegiance to all things far-right. You are not convincing anyone of anything.

What you do prove to us, over and over again, is that our education system has truly failed us in so many cases. You are a great reminder of our need to improve in that regard.

“I am surprised that you yourself describe Doonesbury as an “extremist website.”

Once more, you have posted an lie. Please indicate where you think I said this, because it never happened.

Your poor reading comprehension is also disturbing.

To paraphrase the late Walt Kelly’s Pogo; " I have met the enemy, and they are us " !I heartily suggest ignoring the repetitive rantings of an obviously deranged individual. It’s amazing how intelligent the discourse and debate becomes when nobody responds to the bait and discusses and comments in a civil and articulate manner – on both sides of the argument.I have been on GoComics a lot longer than this "guardian of the constitution " who can’t even put an avatar on his site. Quite frankly, I am tired of his incessant vitriol. Others, of similar political persuasion can and do speak to the point and I enjoy reading their commentary.

I think the “public” he’s thinking uis more Public School, and less Public Stock Offering.

@Linguist: Well said.

I repeat: “sounds like a broken record”. Why couldn’t that be a cause for exclusion if flagged by enough of us??

Well, I made it through reading today’s commentary without once reading anything posted by our pet troll Guard Sgt. Whew!

The ripoff “for profits” ARE businesses. IF it weren’t for the government giving them $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ indirectly by duping gullible students into applying for loans that will saddle them with crushing debt for the rest of their lives, THEN they wouldn’t survive. Think how much the “sales person” gets for conning a student into applying.By contrast Harvard is a fine institution with sky-scraping standards and GRADUATES WHO GET HIGH PAYING JOBS. Stanford also. I worked there for five years, and I learned all about the “Stanford Mafia”. Its a group of highly networked alumni. If you’re a graduate the Stanford Mafia with all their connections will make sure you find and keep good employment.

You’ve completely lost it, guard.You said:“Those were NOT my words, extremist website, but the words of another poster here. If you had bothered to really read the post, you would have seen that.”

Not just another poster but ME. I am the one you misquoted.

If I had bothered to read the post?? I’m not the one who forgot who said what. If you can’t even manage to keep track of which person you’re talking to, you’re not worth having a conversation with. Goodbye.

One last thing. I posted this the other day, but I think you missed it. If you insist maintaining your status as the wart on the ___ of the Doonesbury chat boards, I expect you to eat crow when the Pyramids are still standing as Obama begins his second term. I’ll talk to you then, if you’re still around. Maybe then you’ll do me the courtesy of remembering who I am from one post to the next.