Eddie, with all due respect to your opinion, while the Catholic Church has the right to dictate the rules for their members, they do NOT have the right to dictate rules for non-members.
I find your and your Church just as offensive on this matter as as I would a Jew that would insist I must not eat pork, or a Muslim that insisted my wife must not allow her hair to be seen.
The issue isn’t whether or not birth control is or is not used by Catholics or whether or not it is practiced by Catholics. The issue is forcing Catholic church and its organizations to provide insurance to their employees that PAYS for such. BIG difference. It would be in the same class as forcing an Islamic run business to provide pork dishes in their cafeterias for those employees that eat pork, or prohibiting Jews from doing circumcisions because it maims someone’s body.
This here is Laughable !Much-Ado !~When stealing a Horse out of the Barn,one should throw a ROCK at the HEN HOUSEIt makes for a Good Distraction !(as does Birth Control)
~Will MITTNEY put his Head in the (birth control) Noose ?~Or will the MAN (Santorum)with TWO ABORTION’S UNDER HIS BELTDICTATE TO USABOUT BIRTH CONTROL ?~With ALL the REAL PROBLEMS in the World(the Economy, JOBS, WAR in the Middle East, Pollution, Global Warming, ECT…..)This is nothing but, CLUCK ! CLUCK ! CLUCK !~We really DON’T CARE,just as long as I don’t pay for it, and Poor Women CAN"T get it !(Santorum doesn’t use Birth Control,They just have an abortion) Why didn’t the SANTORUM’S, just give them Babies up for Adoption ? Huh ?
What a Bunch of BS !For Decades they’ve had NO Problem with it, UNTIL NOW ?~The “Church Hugger’s”,(The one’s who want to CUT ALL SPENDING) don’t mind GIVING THEM ( CHURCHES ) MONEY !~BUT WAIT,WHAT’S THIS ?It seems, if they TAKE MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT,They have to COMPLY WITH THE RULES !~NOT SO QUICK !WE (the Church) wont take YOUR MONEY unless it’s under OUR (the Churches) TERMS !~The Church has been TAKING OUR MONEY for yearsBut have waited until now to complain.Is the Church Racist ? LOL !~IF THEY DON’T WANT THE MONEY,THEN DON’T TAKE IT !END OF STORY !
IEO: Until the Holy Sea puts in place a means to clean-up and remove the prurient clergy (priest, bishops, cardinals, etc.) within your church you are without any legitimate ground upon which to stand.
As one of your own priests asked me, “How do you get a Nun pregnant? Ans: You dress her up as a choir boy.” Now where do you suppose he learned that?
So don’t go preaching to the rest of us until you clean up your own sex hole first…starting with your own holier than thou, pedophile aide and abetting Pope Benedict the XVI!
The scary thing is, and why your Church doesn’t make the 1st page of the News every day, that your fantastical religious horror show is seconded by the demented, totally intolerant, murdering stooges of Islam…Hmmmmm, you know that does make closeted prurient clergy not only not seem quite so bad, just maybe we should tolerate them IEO (you know lesser of two evils). We can turn our back on them (like the Pope taught for all those years) and just let them sing EIO, EIO, EIO all the way to Old McDonalds barn yard…with their little children in tow. What do you think IEO? Save the church millions!
can’t listen the church if their pope was in the hitler youth and condone pedophile priests. but, it is ok for them to hate condoms, contraception, and gays?
True, I only knew one Catholic who didn’t. She was from Ireland and had about 10 kids under the age of 10.She looked really Frazzled. THis is a non-issue stirred up for no one reasonable.
If 98% of Catholic women use some form of contraception, that is a large proportion of the followers who have rejected a significant dictum of their own church, which suggests the church is sadly out of touch with modern times and reality. That puts the church hierarchy in a weak position to be dictating to anyone that Catholic women should be discriminated against in the provision of contraceptives..Which then leads to the conclusion that this controversy is a largely manufactured issue by:1. The Church hierarchy who crave some relevance in shaping societal behaviour, and who are exclusively men who have no skin in the game, but who have proven their own culpability in matters sexual, and;2. Right wing ideologues who will glom onto any issue to make Obama look bad and advance their own agenda, no matter how lacking in merit the issue might be.
I haven’t read all of the comments. I will just say, that the Catholic Church isn’t the only religion up in arms about this. What this all has to do deal with, and so many don’t seem to GET THIS is the fact that the government is OVERSTEPPING. And I guess that doesn’t phase a lot of you AT ALL! Whose toes will the government step on next?
Simplify the issue, get the CHURCHES out of the “health care business”. If they charge a fee, they’re a business to be regulated. Imposing their religious dogma on patients and employees IS what’s actually crossing the line.
Public businesses also have a responsibility to respect labor laws and principles, whether that business is sponsored by a religious organization or not. In the current Catholic issue that means not discriminating against women employees, who could be of any faith, and denying them the same deal on contraceptives as any other employer.
judy.palen about 12 years ago
Real and probably low.
PlainBill about 12 years ago
Eddie, with all due respect to your opinion, while the Catholic Church has the right to dictate the rules for their members, they do NOT have the right to dictate rules for non-members.
I find your and your Church just as offensive on this matter as as I would a Jew that would insist I must not eat pork, or a Muslim that insisted my wife must not allow her hair to be seen.
dahawk about 12 years ago
The issue isn’t whether or not birth control is or is not used by Catholics or whether or not it is practiced by Catholics. The issue is forcing Catholic church and its organizations to provide insurance to their employees that PAYS for such. BIG difference. It would be in the same class as forcing an Islamic run business to provide pork dishes in their cafeterias for those employees that eat pork, or prohibiting Jews from doing circumcisions because it maims someone’s body.
JasperYahoo about 12 years ago
This here is Laughable !Much-Ado !~When stealing a Horse out of the Barn,one should throw a ROCK at the HEN HOUSEIt makes for a Good Distraction !(as does Birth Control)
~Will MITTNEY put his Head in the (birth control) Noose ?~Or will the MAN (Santorum)with TWO ABORTION’S UNDER HIS BELTDICTATE TO USABOUT BIRTH CONTROL ?~With ALL the REAL PROBLEMS in the World(the Economy, JOBS, WAR in the Middle East, Pollution, Global Warming, ECT…..)This is nothing but, CLUCK ! CLUCK ! CLUCK !~We really DON’T CARE,just as long as I don’t pay for it, and Poor Women CAN"T get it !(Santorum doesn’t use Birth Control,They just have an abortion) Why didn’t the SANTORUM’S, just give them Babies up for Adoption ? Huh ?
pirate227 about 12 years ago
Oy! Do as I say, not as I do.
tcity about 12 years ago
“… harmful behavior like sacrifices…”.Shhh! Don’t be giving them ideas.
JasperYahoo about 12 years ago
What a Bunch of BS !For Decades they’ve had NO Problem with it, UNTIL NOW ?~The “Church Hugger’s”,(The one’s who want to CUT ALL SPENDING) don’t mind GIVING THEM ( CHURCHES ) MONEY !~BUT WAIT,WHAT’S THIS ?It seems, if they TAKE MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT,They have to COMPLY WITH THE RULES !~NOT SO QUICK !WE (the Church) wont take YOUR MONEY unless it’s under OUR (the Churches) TERMS !~The Church has been TAKING OUR MONEY for yearsBut have waited until now to complain.Is the Church Racist ? LOL !~IF THEY DON’T WANT THE MONEY,THEN DON’T TAKE IT !END OF STORY !
leweclectic about 12 years ago
IEO: Until the Holy Sea puts in place a means to clean-up and remove the prurient clergy (priest, bishops, cardinals, etc.) within your church you are without any legitimate ground upon which to stand.
As one of your own priests asked me, “How do you get a Nun pregnant? Ans: You dress her up as a choir boy.” Now where do you suppose he learned that?
So don’t go preaching to the rest of us until you clean up your own sex hole first…starting with your own holier than thou, pedophile aide and abetting Pope Benedict the XVI!The scary thing is, and why your Church doesn’t make the 1st page of the News every day, that your fantastical religious horror show is seconded by the demented, totally intolerant, murdering stooges of Islam…Hmmmmm, you know that does make closeted prurient clergy not only not seem quite so bad, just maybe we should tolerate them IEO (you know lesser of two evils). We can turn our back on them (like the Pope taught for all those years) and just let them sing EIO, EIO, EIO all the way to Old McDonalds barn yard…with their little children in tow. What do you think IEO? Save the church millions!
JasperYahoo about 12 years ago
Cauzin ?I don’t remember no Neanderthals being in muh Fammuley Tree !
JasperYahoo about 12 years ago
Is you making fun of muh EARS ?
vwdualnomand about 12 years ago
can’t listen the church if their pope was in the hitler youth and condone pedophile priests. but, it is ok for them to hate condoms, contraception, and gays?
pam Miner about 12 years ago
True, I only knew one Catholic who didn’t. She was from Ireland and had about 10 kids under the age of 10.She looked really Frazzled. THis is a non-issue stirred up for no one reasonable.
Gypsy8 about 12 years ago
If 98% of Catholic women use some form of contraception, that is a large proportion of the followers who have rejected a significant dictum of their own church, which suggests the church is sadly out of touch with modern times and reality. That puts the church hierarchy in a weak position to be dictating to anyone that Catholic women should be discriminated against in the provision of contraceptives..Which then leads to the conclusion that this controversy is a largely manufactured issue by:1. The Church hierarchy who crave some relevance in shaping societal behaviour, and who are exclusively men who have no skin in the game, but who have proven their own culpability in matters sexual, and;2. Right wing ideologues who will glom onto any issue to make Obama look bad and advance their own agenda, no matter how lacking in merit the issue might be.
Dry and Dusty Premium Member about 12 years ago
I haven’t read all of the comments. I will just say, that the Catholic Church isn’t the only religion up in arms about this. What this all has to do deal with, and so many don’t seem to GET THIS is the fact that the government is OVERSTEPPING. And I guess that doesn’t phase a lot of you AT ALL! Whose toes will the government step on next?
Gypsy8 about 12 years ago
Yer on a roll now – good points!
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
Simplify the issue, get the CHURCHES out of the “health care business”. If they charge a fee, they’re a business to be regulated. Imposing their religious dogma on patients and employees IS what’s actually crossing the line.
Gypsy8 about 12 years ago
Public businesses also have a responsibility to respect labor laws and principles, whether that business is sponsored by a religious organization or not. In the current Catholic issue that means not discriminating against women employees, who could be of any faith, and denying them the same deal on contraceptives as any other employer.