Since you don’t know your scripture, let’s look at the Gospel of Luke 6:20-21
“Looking at his disciples, he said:“Blessed are you who are poor,for yours is the kingdom of God.Blessed are you who hunger now,for you will be satisfied."
Now, if you could show me the passages that describe his carpentry activities once he took on his disciples, that would be nice.
I’m not so sure a little tough love isn’t in order for many of these people who feel they are mistreated by society because they don’t make as much as somebody else or don’t live in a home as nice as somebody else.
Newt seems to be merely a reflection of approximately half of society that have grown weary of being expected to carry the other half on their backs as well as take care of their own families, neighbors, and communities.
Many of those who are poor in spirit have done it to themselves. How many in the Occupy Wall Street Movement are there because: a) They borrowed too much against their home, b) They took out too many student loans and got a Liberal Arts degree of dubious value, c) have always been told they were special and important even when they were sitting around on the couch doing nothing because self esteem is more important then accomplishment.
No, He wasn’t. When someone once asked Jesus why he wasn’t helping Joseph out with the carpentry business, He replied, “Don’t you know I must be about my Father’s business?”
Right-wing rhetoric, before OWS:“Jobs! Jobs! There’s no jobs…and it’s all the Dems and Obama’s fault!”Right-wing rhetoric, AFTER OWS:“Jobs? Jobs! There’s plenty of jobs. This is all because these people don’t WANT to work!”
There ain’t enough cheese in Wisconsin to go with THAT whine, Sybil.
NO one cherry-picks and misquotes the Scriptures more than evangelical conservatives; i.e, there’s only ONE chapter in Leviticus that matters, and "the poor will always be with you’ was THE most important thing Jesus ever said about the under-privileged…and it doesn’t matter what was the context.
@Mendojoe – Are you a troll are do you actually feel that way? Is it your reasoned opinion that anybody who would support conservative values (Self sufficiency, living within your means, raising your children to work hard and fear god) is somehow uncaring about their fellow man?
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I have friends across the political spectrum and my conservative friends are just as social and caring about society as my liberal friends.
Do not assume that you know what is in our hearts or what good works we do simply because we choose to start shrugging the yoke of slavery that the needy would like to put on those of us who produce in this society.
Personally I think Newt has some real character flaws but he is reflective of a growing sense of exasperation I and my friends have over a government that would take our wealth and our freedoms in the name of caring for those who choose to sneer at the way we live.
Apparently you, too, seem to think that you are entitled to the wealth produced by others in the name of caring for those who refuse to live within their means.
“Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel” – Ayn RandThat is another description for how much you care.
@Eryx, Gee Eryx, I wonder why companies don’t want to hire a guy who has been sitting on the couch for 2 years. Maybe because it’s a good bet he’s lost most of his job skills.
I would much rather hire somebody who was working at McDonalds or volunteering at a homeless shelter every day then the guy who sucked up unemployment benefits for 2 years and when the money ran out decided to finally go to work.And I don’t know what news casts you have been watching (probably none) but I have heard interviews from people who were there because: 1) They lost their homes due to forclosure, 2) They felt their student loans were too burdensome, 3) They felt that the world wasn’t fair for them and their friends, 4) They couldn’t find a job with their current degree.
Wow. Suddenly it’s a big proud claim to state that you work and (as I do) pay taxes … shouldn’t we all be working to get the country back on track fiscally?
Bailey, you and I are for the same thing. The difference is that I want the government to do what I do when my finances are a little tight – I cut back and economize. But Mr. Obama wants a blank check to hand out more vote buying largess to the discontented masses and I am dead set against giving him that privilege at my expense.
Proudly standing up and proclaiming yourself a Christian doesn’t necessarily MAKE you one you one, amigo. JP Morgan proudly declared he was a Christian, never shut up about it, in fact. Nathan Bedford Forrest and Jim Jones…also proud to be Christians.
As for that list of yours, it would actually be a list of everything right-wing talk radio, FOX News, viral e-mails and fringe-right blogs SAY the Occupy movemment stands against.
BTW, why aren’t you posting under your sockpuppet name?
@Eryx Just take a moment to google and you will find that I have used 1 of several legitimate spellings (remember – it’s from 16th century German). I read the Temptation of Dr. Faust (In German and then English) when I was a Senior in college – Did you?
And I understand that unemployment insurance is just that. But that doesn’t make it right for some deadbeat to sit on his couch for 2 years whining that no one will pay him what he thinks he is worth.
I stand by my original statement. I would much rather hire the guy who swept floors or flipped burgers while looking for a job in his chosen field because he’s shown work ethic. The couch warmer has shown his ability to sit there and do nothing productive. That makes a prospective employer wonder what that bozo will do when he’s not being watched.
You can argue with me all you like and call me stupid but the people who count, the people who hire and employ workers, agree with me.
You appear to be angry and immature with your name calling and nitpicking. You would be better served spending time sharpening your wit rather then your tongue.
@MendojoeWhat gives you the write to dictate how others can use the fruits of their labor? I just love how there is a group out there that feel that they need to legislate how others might live NOT to keep them from infringing on the rights of others but simply out of spite and jealousy.
I only own one home but I wouldn’t think to tell my neighbor that he can’t have a home in the Mountains and another home on the beach. If that is how he would like to spend his earnings (Perhaps as an investment) then more power to him.
Newt the pharisee! He would see Jesus as an unwashed brown man. and not see the Truth within. He has sold his soul for the almighty corporations and their filthy $100’s!
Ever notice any time a cartoonist includes any reference to Jesus, the folks get more bent than a Muslim in Denmark? Newt simply WOULD tell Jesus to get a job and take a bath. Those who can accept his decades-long breaches of ethics and morality, are just, well, the unhealed blind.
There are lots of liberal Christians; and lots of liberals who aren’t Christians who nonetheless respect what’s good in Christianity. I don’t much like the kind of Christianity that Gingrich represents, but that’s not all of Christianity, by a long shot.
You say “My part time job just about covers the tax burden from my wives job and my job.” Do you mean “my wives’ job” or “my wife’s job” — just curious. The first would be the easier correction, so probability says that’s what you meant. In that case, do all your wives have the same job?
@KatoOf course Kato and you do? The problem is there are lots of different people at those events and every one of them has a unique gripe with the way government works. But what they all seem to have in common is a sense that the government doesn’t work because it doesn’t address their special need.
You would like to silence me because I have an opinion different then yours and probably that of many of the OWS group. You call it spouting off. I call it pointing out the huge flaws in the position of those who feel they are entitled to even more from those who work hard and produce in this country. Sitting in a park pi$$ing and moanning about how things aren’t the way you want isn’t noble. It’s lazy.
The world isn’t fair. Get over it. The Government works pretty well compared to many countries and it works even better for those of us who work hard, live within our means, and developed valuable skills in college and in our careers. It doesn’t work so great who developed parasitic skills which aren’t so great when the hosts are shrugging them off.
@Echinsu OchaEchinsu Ocha said, “You would like to silence me because I have an opinion different then yours and probably that of many of the OWS group.”
We don’t wanna silence you. We just know that you don’t know what you are talking about.
“…those who feel they are entitled to even more from those who work hard and produce in this country.”
Perfect example of what I just described. Jobs are being exported to countries that hate us. This includes jobs that people are going to college to study for. Add the corruption in Wall Street that wiped out the retirement savings for a lot of baby boomers and you have a recipe for a surplus of labor (or unemployment as you know it). The protesters are opposed to the fact that our gubbermint has helped multinational corporations increase their bottom line at the expense of the American worker. Work ethic is meaningless if Habib and Chang can do the same job for 75% less than what Bob is asking for.
“The Government works pretty well compared to many countries and it works even better for those of us who work hard, live within our means, and developed valuable skills in college and in our careers.”
It works pretty well if you have a multinational corporation that has allegance to no one. It doesn’t work well if the gubbermint O.K.s a tech support specialist from Sri Lanka to take over your job. No amount of a(word) busting is gonna save your job. And in case you haven’t notice the standard of living has gone up. Wages haven’t been keeping up with inflation so for most people living within their means is defined as lowering their living arrangements (for those foreclosures it means tent city or crash at a relative’s place). As far as developing valuable skills in college f.y.i. college tuition has gone up, making it even harder for Americans to go to college. Education in this country is becoming more of a luxury instead of a necessity and that’s quite sad.
alcors3 over 12 years ago
We have been Obamanible. I guess we deserve to be Newtered.
cdward over 12 years ago
Since you don’t know your scripture, let’s look at the Gospel of Luke 6:20-21
“Looking at his disciples, he said:“Blessed are you who are poor,for yours is the kingdom of God.Blessed are you who hunger now,for you will be satisfied."Now, if you could show me the passages that describe his carpentry activities once he took on his disciples, that would be nice.
yiayia Premium Member over 12 years ago
offensive
Mephistopheles over 12 years ago
I’m not so sure a little tough love isn’t in order for many of these people who feel they are mistreated by society because they don’t make as much as somebody else or don’t live in a home as nice as somebody else.
Newt seems to be merely a reflection of approximately half of society that have grown weary of being expected to carry the other half on their backs as well as take care of their own families, neighbors, and communities.
Many of those who are poor in spirit have done it to themselves. How many in the Occupy Wall Street Movement are there because: a) They borrowed too much against their home, b) They took out too many student loans and got a Liberal Arts degree of dubious value, c) have always been told they were special and important even when they were sitting around on the couch doing nothing because self esteem is more important then accomplishment.
jimmac1959 over 12 years ago
TOON HAS NOTHING TO DO ABOUT RELIGION………….IT SHOWS THE GOP HAS A TOTAL LACK OF TOUCH WITH THE COMMON AVERAGE JOE.
Simon_Jester over 12 years ago
No, He wasn’t. When someone once asked Jesus why he wasn’t helping Joseph out with the carpentry business, He replied, “Don’t you know I must be about my Father’s business?”
Simon_Jester over 12 years ago
Right-wing rhetoric, before OWS:“Jobs! Jobs! There’s no jobs…and it’s all the Dems and Obama’s fault!”Right-wing rhetoric, AFTER OWS:“Jobs? Jobs! There’s plenty of jobs. This is all because these people don’t WANT to work!”
nanellen over 12 years ago
Amen and right on Newt!
baileydean over 12 years ago
You ever stoop to watch Faux… " Sockpuppet"…? Ever?
__Should be a clear response for and from any true Christians who aren’t sticky-taped to the dimmest level of the right wing contortionists…
Simon_Jester over 12 years ago
LOL!
There ain’t enough cheese in Wisconsin to go with THAT whine, Sybil.
NO one cherry-picks and misquotes the Scriptures more than evangelical conservatives; i.e, there’s only ONE chapter in Leviticus that matters, and "the poor will always be with you’ was THE most important thing Jesus ever said about the under-privileged…and it doesn’t matter what was the context.
Simon_Jester over 12 years ago
THAT was spoken like a true Cuervo Gold lover
Simon_Jester over 12 years ago
Neither is the Tea-Party,
baileydean over 12 years ago
Really?
baileydean over 12 years ago
“@mendojoesure, those evil rich are all blah blah blah, Yawnsad…”
__Yes, they are. The 1% are… how are your “Harley-finances” holding up…? Sweet and swell?
Nebulous Premium Member over 12 years ago
http://www.gocomics.com/jimmorin/2011/11/20
Mephistopheles over 12 years ago
@Mendojoe – Are you a troll are do you actually feel that way? Is it your reasoned opinion that anybody who would support conservative values (Self sufficiency, living within your means, raising your children to work hard and fear god) is somehow uncaring about their fellow man?
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I have friends across the political spectrum and my conservative friends are just as social and caring about society as my liberal friends.
Do not assume that you know what is in our hearts or what good works we do simply because we choose to start shrugging the yoke of slavery that the needy would like to put on those of us who produce in this society.
Personally I think Newt has some real character flaws but he is reflective of a growing sense of exasperation I and my friends have over a government that would take our wealth and our freedoms in the name of caring for those who choose to sneer at the way we live.
Apparently you, too, seem to think that you are entitled to the wealth produced by others in the name of caring for those who refuse to live within their means.
“Whoever claims the right to redistribute the wealth produced by others is claiming the right to treat human beings as chattel” – Ayn RandThat is another description for how much you care.
Mephistopheles over 12 years ago
@Eryx, Gee Eryx, I wonder why companies don’t want to hire a guy who has been sitting on the couch for 2 years. Maybe because it’s a good bet he’s lost most of his job skills.
I would much rather hire somebody who was working at McDonalds or volunteering at a homeless shelter every day then the guy who sucked up unemployment benefits for 2 years and when the money ran out decided to finally go to work.And I don’t know what news casts you have been watching (probably none) but I have heard interviews from people who were there because: 1) They lost their homes due to forclosure, 2) They felt their student loans were too burdensome, 3) They felt that the world wasn’t fair for them and their friends, 4) They couldn’t find a job with their current degree.baileydean over 12 years ago
Wow. Suddenly it’s a big proud claim to state that you work and (as I do) pay taxes … shouldn’t we all be working to get the country back on track fiscally?
baileydean over 12 years ago
“I am the 53% that pays taxes and works!”
__As am I… so?
Mephistopheles over 12 years ago
Bailey, you and I are for the same thing. The difference is that I want the government to do what I do when my finances are a little tight – I cut back and economize. But Mr. Obama wants a blank check to hand out more vote buying largess to the discontented masses and I am dead set against giving him that privilege at my expense.
Simon_Jester over 12 years ago
Proudly standing up and proclaiming yourself a Christian doesn’t necessarily MAKE you one you one, amigo. JP Morgan proudly declared he was a Christian, never shut up about it, in fact. Nathan Bedford Forrest and Jim Jones…also proud to be Christians.
As for that list of yours, it would actually be a list of everything right-wing talk radio, FOX News, viral e-mails and fringe-right blogs SAY the Occupy movemment stands against.
BTW, why aren’t you posting under your sockpuppet name?
baileydean over 12 years ago
“Now, you say Jesus USED TO BE a carpenter…..?”
__Before he decided to chuck it all and go “on the road” you mean…?Hmm. Good point.__:ºJ
tulsagerry over 12 years ago
LOVED IT! GOD KNOWS!
Mephistopheles over 12 years ago
@Eryx Just take a moment to google and you will find that I have used 1 of several legitimate spellings (remember – it’s from 16th century German). I read the Temptation of Dr. Faust (In German and then English) when I was a Senior in college – Did you?
And I understand that unemployment insurance is just that. But that doesn’t make it right for some deadbeat to sit on his couch for 2 years whining that no one will pay him what he thinks he is worth.
I stand by my original statement. I would much rather hire the guy who swept floors or flipped burgers while looking for a job in his chosen field because he’s shown work ethic. The couch warmer has shown his ability to sit there and do nothing productive. That makes a prospective employer wonder what that bozo will do when he’s not being watched.
You can argue with me all you like and call me stupid but the people who count, the people who hire and employ workers, agree with me.
You appear to be angry and immature with your name calling and nitpicking. You would be better served spending time sharpening your wit rather then your tongue.
Mephistopheles over 12 years ago
@MendojoeWhat gives you the write to dictate how others can use the fruits of their labor? I just love how there is a group out there that feel that they need to legislate how others might live NOT to keep them from infringing on the rights of others but simply out of spite and jealousy.
I only own one home but I wouldn’t think to tell my neighbor that he can’t have a home in the Mountains and another home on the beach. If that is how he would like to spend his earnings (Perhaps as an investment) then more power to him.
pam Miner over 12 years ago
Newt the pharisee! He would see Jesus as an unwashed brown man. and not see the Truth within. He has sold his soul for the almighty corporations and their filthy $100’s!
Dtroutma over 12 years ago
Ever notice any time a cartoonist includes any reference to Jesus, the folks get more bent than a Muslim in Denmark? Newt simply WOULD tell Jesus to get a job and take a bath. Those who can accept his decades-long breaches of ethics and morality, are just, well, the unhealed blind.
Tue Elung-Jensen over 12 years ago
No, as cdward allready said its about them getting in to heaven later on that makes them blessed (in spirit). Since being poor atm just plain sucks.
lonecat over 12 years ago
There are lots of liberal Christians; and lots of liberals who aren’t Christians who nonetheless respect what’s good in Christianity. I don’t much like the kind of Christianity that Gingrich represents, but that’s not all of Christianity, by a long shot.
lonecat over 12 years ago
You say “My part time job just about covers the tax burden from my wives job and my job.” Do you mean “my wives’ job” or “my wife’s job” — just curious. The first would be the easier correction, so probability says that’s what you meant. In that case, do all your wives have the same job?
Mephistopheles over 12 years ago
@KatoOf course Kato and you do? The problem is there are lots of different people at those events and every one of them has a unique gripe with the way government works. But what they all seem to have in common is a sense that the government doesn’t work because it doesn’t address their special need.
You would like to silence me because I have an opinion different then yours and probably that of many of the OWS group. You call it spouting off. I call it pointing out the huge flaws in the position of those who feel they are entitled to even more from those who work hard and produce in this country. Sitting in a park pi$$ing and moanning about how things aren’t the way you want isn’t noble. It’s lazy.
The world isn’t fair. Get over it. The Government works pretty well compared to many countries and it works even better for those of us who work hard, live within our means, and developed valuable skills in college and in our careers. It doesn’t work so great who developed parasitic skills which aren’t so great when the hosts are shrugging them off.
d_legendary1 over 12 years ago
@Echinsu OchaEchinsu Ocha said, “You would like to silence me because I have an opinion different then yours and probably that of many of the OWS group.”
We don’t wanna silence you. We just know that you don’t know what you are talking about.
“…those who feel they are entitled to even more from those who work hard and produce in this country.”
Perfect example of what I just described. Jobs are being exported to countries that hate us. This includes jobs that people are going to college to study for. Add the corruption in Wall Street that wiped out the retirement savings for a lot of baby boomers and you have a recipe for a surplus of labor (or unemployment as you know it). The protesters are opposed to the fact that our gubbermint has helped multinational corporations increase their bottom line at the expense of the American worker. Work ethic is meaningless if Habib and Chang can do the same job for 75% less than what Bob is asking for.
“The Government works pretty well compared to many countries and it works even better for those of us who work hard, live within our means, and developed valuable skills in college and in our careers.”
It works pretty well if you have a multinational corporation that has allegance to no one. It doesn’t work well if the gubbermint O.K.s a tech support specialist from Sri Lanka to take over your job. No amount of a(word) busting is gonna save your job. And in case you haven’t notice the standard of living has gone up. Wages haven’t been keeping up with inflation so for most people living within their means is defined as lowering their living arrangements (for those foreclosures it means tent city or crash at a relative’s place). As far as developing valuable skills in college f.y.i. college tuition has gone up, making it even harder for Americans to go to college. Education in this country is becoming more of a luxury instead of a necessity and that’s quite sad.