Pat Oliphant for October 27, 2011

Look at all the blank stares. Not a clue.

As long as man is greedy Wall Street and their ilk will always be!

Swim Away! Swim Away!!!

No penguin, musta eaten him.

Maybe they are piranha one could only hope

Hey, big fish, what’s that nibbling at your tail?

They want to whine and snivel that it’s not fair.

To many of those Neo-hippies have saddled themselves with enormous student loan debt and now they’re mad because they are surprised to learn that the economy doesn’t value Art History Majors, and Psychology majors.

I bet you don’t see too many Physicists, Scientists, Engineers, and Accountants out there in the Obamaburgs.

Maybe he did. But I’ll wager he didn’t flunk Econ 101.

“What do you mean my degree in women’s studies isn’t worth anything on the job market?”

good question, there, Pat.

Hi, fennec, thanks for the links.

That’s coz they were RUN out of the park before they had a the chance to clean up harley-kins.

Same thing would happen at any tea-party rally if the participants had been cleared out forcibly.

I’m an engineer with an MBA; graduated at the top of my class. And I saw plenty of idiots that would tell you how a friend of a friend got a job right out of psychology school paying $100K/year.

They were deluded.

I took General Psych and Theories of Personalities and Aced both thank you very much.

I did get a job right out of college (23 years ago) and continue to do quite well because I have skills the market values.

Personally I think that what those little fish are doing is almost as nuts as trying to block a tank in Tianamen square, all by yourself.

Do try to keep your own words in your own mouth, harley, mmmm’kay? YOU"RE the one ( falsely ) labeling the 99% a cancer, not me.

And also trying to change the subject with clumsiest non-sequitur I’ve seen in a lonnnnng time. What does that have to do with what I ACTUALLY said?

Neo Hippies?

Only FOUR applicants for every job? Try four HUNDRED.

STILL trying to change the subject, eh?

How typical

You can keep trying to change the subject all you want harley-kins. It’s not gonna work.

BTW, can anyone confirm this? I have heard several times that the Tea-Partiers did not clean up after themselves, the organizers brought in professional cleaning crews to take care of it. ( Along with the photographers who took the pictures afterwards )

Again, this is only something I heard/read in some posts on another forum, I cannot confirm it.

Why do righties keep calling the OWS crowd the “filthy unwashed”, when it was their bankers and market manipulators who gave the whole country a bath, then told them to "f"off and drink the water out of the drain?

So many of the OWS folks are retirees (many with graduate degrees and long careers, where they “Invested” in funds that got ripped off) and folks with good jobs who got laid off when they acquired too much “seniority” and higher pay, how are they always the “unwashed”. If TEA party people really want to achieve their ORIGINAL stated goal of “fairness”, they’d be out their with OWS, NOT playing the game the Koch brothers and corporate America have defined.

As I’ve noted before, the current U.S. Congress and its’ ilk are simply a subsidiary of Wall Street and that the ‘current’ purpose of Congress is to protect the opulent rich from the masses…by any means necessary. This is in contrast to the founding fathers POV, especially the Jeffersonian side that knew from experience, that consensus by dialectic intercourse is the only means to a functional synthesis. Should the ‘99%’ go looking for ‘shark fin’ soup or should Wall Street go for a ’ 99% proletarian’ lunch, then in the long term both sides will lose. Only a synthesis through the dialectic will work for both interest involved and provide both a short and long term solution.

If the Tea Party were to mingle with the OWS, they’d have to do all the cleaning up. It seems to me that the Tea Party wanted to work within the system while the OWS largely doesn’t. And the violence and arrests are growing.

SABRSteve: It is apparent that neither OWS or the Tea Party is willing to work together in order to achieve a synthesis through the dialectic process, whether within or outside the system. A dysfunctions approach by both groups.

@kevin : I know someone with a PhD in chemistry who could not get a job for almost two years.( He did finally get a decent one.) Then I read in Chemical & Engineering News that many of our corporations have been outsourcing research and development jobs to China and India for years. It’s not just the liberal arts majors that have been hurting.

DrCanuck, you are correct in that I failed to point out the differences in the three types of dialectic debate as defined below. I was referring to the two more modern forms/definitions of the dialectic and not the more archaic Socratic Method. It was my mistake, thank you for pointing it out.

Additionally: Fuzzy thinker is probably correct when he/she states that to achieve a dialectic synthesis, through def. 3 or 4 below, in the current environment would be difficult at best, and impossible via the Socratic method. However, as I see it, the alternatives are far worse.

3. di•a•lec•tics debate resolving conflict: debate intended to resolve a conflict between two contradictory or apparently contradictory ideas or parts logically, establishing truths on both sides rather than disproving one argument (takes a singular verb)

4. Hegelian process: the process, in Hegelian and Marxist thought, in which two apparently opposed ideas, the thesis and antithesis, become combined in a unified whole, the synthesis

5. Socratic Method for revealing truth: the methods used in Socratic philosophy to reveal truth through disputation

comix2000: Yes, many but not all non-violent protest end in riots as I personally know. I was in Chicago in 1969 as one of the protesters at the National Democratic Convention. The then Democratic Mayor of Chicago, Richard Daly, invoked a police riot on the demonstrators which, in most cases, is little different than we are witnessing today.Remembering the past (about all I have left, lol) brings to mind M. Gandhi and, later, M.L. King Jr. who, using non-violent protest was harassed, beaten, and jailed many different times and eventually assassinated. However, they, through their actions, each brought change to their respective countries. Granted, the changes are debated, to this day, as to their merits, but change none the less. What the OWS may or may not achieve, I believe, is too soon to judge.

For Starters, I am for: Fight for #2. Control the Gamblers: Advocate a tax of 30% on Short Term Capital Gains for 2 years (No Deducting Losses)- no matter what your tax bracket is. Speculation destroys Stability. IRAs get hurt.

Next Up: Fight for #3. 2,000 of the $Millionaire Incomes Pay ZERO IRS Tax. Find out what they’re hiding behind: Credits, Exemptions, Exclusions, Caps, Deductions, Tax Breaks, Loopholes. Tell Congress Super Committee to ‘Make Things Right’.

My Pet Peave: Fight for #9. Stop WellsFargo from eating up local banks and creating a monopoly and boosting surcharges.

Lots of OWS can relate to: Fight for #10. Target Barney Frank and Chris Dodd for DEFEAT in the next Election. They started the Home Mortgage Crisis and protected bad banks.

Which brings up another good cartoon…this one could have read “Government” on the behemoth fish and “Tea Party” for the fish, except it seems to me that the “Tea Party” fish were a lot smarter in their tactics and have more resolve.

“First you’d have to inform them who Barney Frank and Chris Dodd ARE” …That’s fair: This particular ‘house of cards’ was built by many players (R & D) over a number of years: Grahmm had a part; Clinton signed the Bank DeRegulation Law; FRANKS FORCED BANKS TO LOAN TO UNQUALIFIED BORROWERS ; DODD PROTECTED FANNIE MAE FROM OVERSIGHT; Hard Times hit home owners and Could Not Talk to the Local Bank; Home Owners walked away from under-water mortgages; There was Fraud and Incompetence on the Commercial side of this; 15 Banks are being sued by US Attorney and State Attorney Generals are meeting with the Banks to negotiate Immunity. At this time, Franks and Dodd are still meddling in National Financial Affairs.

If God didn’t want them eaten, why did he make them minnows?

There are plenty of vids of the police trashing the place.