Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for May 05, 2009

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    attyush  almost 15 years ago

    Feliz cinco de mayo (or should I say Cinco de Cuatro)

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    margueritem  almost 15 years ago

    And also Teresa of ‘Frog Applause’has her birthday today. Coincidence? I think not.

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    ejcapulet  almost 15 years ago

    Why am I laughing at this?

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    pschearer Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    What? They nationalized the cartoonists? Now that’s going too far!

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    kfaatz925  almost 15 years ago

    A little sunshine on Cinco de Mayo wouldn’t come amiss… sigh from the land of rain…

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    wicky  almost 15 years ago

    Most people don’t know that back in 1912, Hellmann’s mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as Sinko de Mayo…Har-dee-har-har-har.

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    carmy  almost 15 years ago

    Really? So what kind of contests to the cartoonists have? Who can draw the fastest?

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    prasrinivara  almost 15 years ago

    On the nail kfaatz, since DC seems to be the land of mist/overcast at the moment.

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    Wiley creator almost 15 years ago

    “What? They nationalized the cartoonists? Now that’s going too far!”

    Now THAT’S funny! Thanks, pshearer.

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    Rosedragon  almost 15 years ago

    Wicky: that was a groaner!

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    Digital Frog  almost 15 years ago

    Yes Wicky, that was a pun of titanic proportions…

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    rmbdot  almost 15 years ago

    Is there an archive somewhere, maybe a slideshow, of all the sandwich board messages that have been in front of the corner bar?

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    cleokaya  almost 15 years ago

    The one day a year when cartoonists can justify drinking top “drawer” tequila.

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    LeonardWatson  almost 15 years ago

    Since the 5th of May is just another day here in America and holds no special meaning to Americans, why are we celebrating? Why do Americans acknowledge and celebrate Mexico’s independence? In years past there has never been a national recognition or celebration of Syttende Mai. If we are going to recognize and celebrate Mexico’s independence shouldn’t we recognize and celebrate every other countries independence day as well? After all there are people of most every nationality living here in the United States, wouldn’t it be fair to acknowledge and celebrate their nation’s independence with as much fever as our own? Not!

    If you want to celebrate the 5th of May go do so in Mexico. Here in America we only recognize one Independence Day and that happens to fall on the Fourth of July!

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    Radical-Knight  almost 15 years ago

    I thought Banks and Post offices DID celebrate ALL holidays.

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    Digital Frog  almost 15 years ago

    @LeonardWatson - you do realize that not everyone who reads comics or visits this website lives in the USA…

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    Ermine Notyours  almost 15 years ago

    LenoardWatson: for a different point of view, see Arlo & Janis at comics.com

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    LeonardWatson  almost 15 years ago

    Digital Frog, Yes, I know that not everyone who reads comics on the internet lives in the US. My point is simply that here in America, because of the rampant infestation of illegal immigrants from Mexico, the 5th of May has become an event that almost rivals the 4th of July.

    I am in no way opposed to each sovereign nation celebrating their own unique holidays, please do so with all the excitement you can muster.

    I am not even opposed to individuals celebrating holidays of their heritage within their own family units. My family regularly celebrates Syttende Mai and Santa Lucia (the winter-light festival), but when a foreign holiday is celebrated en masse with as much or more excitement as a Country’s own independence then something is seriously a wry. This is unfortunately, the sad state we Americans now find ourselves in.

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    mivins  almost 15 years ago

    Happy Cinco de Mayo! I’m for celebrating everybody’s holidays. And THANK YOU Wiley and your colleagues for creating a bright spot in every morning, holiday or not!

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    Wiley creator almost 15 years ago

    “Since the 5th of May is just another day here in America and holds no special meaning to Americans, why are we celebrating?”

    For the same reason we “celebrate” St. Patrick’s Day. It’s an excuse to go out and drink too much.

    Relax. No one actually celebrates Cinco de Mayo, not even in Mexico, where it’s considered a very minor holiday. Now celebrating cartoonists, that’s another matter entirely!

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    JB2009  almost 15 years ago

    Leonard sounds like he needs a shot of Tequila! Besides it’s not Mexico Independence Day - that’s Sept 16. This is just an excuse to have fun - like, say, St. Patrick’s Day or Scottish Games or the Queen’s Birthday or…

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    LeonardWatson  almost 15 years ago

    Apparently the neighborhoods you all live in are not overrun with illegals. Every year on the 5th of May, the Mexicans in my neighborhood drive around and around the neighborhood blasting Mexican music at full volume, honking their horns, and flying their Mexican flags all while obviously drinking their Mexican beer. Yes, even those driving are drinking and the cops do nothing about it. I find it completely disrespectful to the United States of America to make such an ordeal out of a Mexican holiday, whatever their reason for the holiday.

    You cannot compare this kind of over the top celebration with something like St. Patrick’s Day. I have never known an American of Irish decent to disrespect the US Flag while celebrating St. Patrick’s Day, yet these illegals openly disrespect Our Flag and Our Laws, not to mention disrupting the sleep and lives of those of us who have to get up and work the next morning.

    As to celebrating Cartoonists, I have no problem with that at all! Cartoonists add levity and laughter to our world and should be honored in the same way we honor secretaries on secretaries day.

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    jperes moderator almost 15 years ago

    Sounds like your neighborhood might be the exception, not the rule, Leonard. Where I live I’ve never seen anything even close to what you’re describing. But I have seen lots of people who have no Mexican heritage whatsoever going out and having drinks for Cinco de Mayo, just for an excuse to go out and have some fun. They also drink on the 4th of July, St. Pat’s, Memorial Day, Earth Day, Columbus Day, Friday and Saturday.

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    MamaTaney  almost 15 years ago

    Wiley is right(as usual) - it’s a brilliant excuse to go out and drink too much. Leonard Watson, your vile spewing of ingorance and hatred makes me laugh. Truly you are HYSTERICAL!!!In fact, I’m laughing so hard at you I might mess myself … where’s your lawn when I need it?? :)

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    LeonardWatson  almost 15 years ago

    Ok so I fell for the misinformation about it being Mexican Independence day, I can admit when I made a mistake.

    However, it does not change the situation one iota. There are still loads of illegals flying their Mexican flags above the US Flag, committing crimes (driving while drinking), and generally making a nuisance of themselves. In the end, what they are celebrating is being proud of being Mexican, not being proud to be an American. It is that fact that I am annoyed and offended by.

    I have never met an American of Irish decent that took St. Patrick’s Day to the point of being offensive. I enjoy a green beer and some tasty corned beef as much as the next guy but I have never met someone of Irish heritage that would dare to fly the Irish flag above the US Flag, at least not on US soil. I also enjoy a good German beer and a Bratwurst for Oktoberfest, but again I have never met an American of German Decent that would disrespect America.

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    LeonardWatson  almost 15 years ago

    MamaTaney

    I am not spewing ignorance or hatred. I can admit when I fell for misinformation (see my last post). I do not hate Americans of Mexican decent, however I also strongly believe that if you came to this country illegally, whether from Mexico or anywhere else you have broken the law and are therefore a criminal. Criminals of any kind cannot be tolerated by a society. While the punishment for any crime must fit the crime, all crimes must be punished. I would not call for the killing of illegals, that would be a punishment that did not fit the crime. However, raids by I.C.E. and the subsequent deportation of all illegals is a punishment that fits their crime. There is no hatred here, just solid patriotism.

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    JanLC  almost 15 years ago

    Leonard: While I agree with you about illegal aliens in this country (whatever country they came from), I find your blanket condemnation of all Hispanics in the US or even your neighborhood as illegals to be offensive. The vast majority of people of Mexican descent in this country are either legal immigrants or were born here. Calling them illegals just because they (or their ancestors) came from Mexico is just mean-spirited and displays a great deal of prejudice. Just for the record, I’m a white European-American.

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    GuntotingLiberal  almost 15 years ago

    Ah Leonard. Come to Canada and learn that the best part of celebrating diversity (as we are wont to do) is a regularly re-occurring excuse to do some thematic partying. Chinese New Year is a hoot too.

    Fajitas and sangrita shots at my place! It’s sunny, moderately warm and I’m breaking out the BBQ. I’ll buy you a real beer.

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    vexatron1984  almost 15 years ago

    Hey, any excuse to drink a marguarita or two and eat good mexican is fine by me!

    Hey Leonard, the only thing you’ve said that made sense was that coming into the country illegally should be stopped. Othwerwise you need to remove that American flag someone shoved up your bleep and relax.

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    LeonardWatson  almost 15 years ago

    JanCinVV, I do not classify all people of Hispanic decent as illegals, that would be silly. For example people of Puerto Rican decent are both Hispanic and American. Secondly, I have a number of friends of both Mexican and other Hispanic origin and I do not classify them as illegal either. Illegal is a status reserved for those people who came to this country without following the proper procedures for legally entering this country. As to those in my neighborhood, you really do not know where I live so I will forgive your lack of understanding. Trust me it is a well documented fact that about 80% of the Hispanics in my neighborhood at any given time are in fact in this country illegally.

    Finally, while the current interpretation of the law may disagree with me, I do not believe that just because you are born on American soil you are an American citizen. That is a fairly recent interpretation by liberal activist justices. To truly be an American citizen you need to be born of at least one parent who is an American citizen. Therefore, I find the whole argument of “anchor babies” to be ridiculous, those babies are no more American citizens than their parents are, regardless of where they were actually born.

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    LeonardWatson  almost 15 years ago

    GuntotingLiberal,

    I love visiting Canada, in fact, at one point in time I dated a girl from Vancouver BC, (well actually Abbotsford BC). You are right about one thing. You do have much better beer than we do. I am not opposed to having a good time with a thematic party. It is the blatant disrespect for My country by My neighbors that upsets me.

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    MamaTaney  almost 15 years ago

    LeonardWatson - while I will give you kudos for being willing to admit your mistakes, whether you like it or not (or will admit it or not) you ARE still spewing hatred and ignorance, and it is vile. You are sincerely making me laugh my tushy off though in your ignorance, hypocrisy, out-right hatred and everything else. It may be National Cartoonists’ Day, but you are the real joke.

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    MamaTaney  almost 15 years ago

    Back to the cartoon (as it ought to be!!) — noticing three shot glasses on the ground. Is that for the famous: One tequila, Two tequila, Three tequila, Floor??? Seems an obvious reference to me.

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    prasrinivara  almost 15 years ago

    LeonardWatson, as ex-Canadian (I renounced Canadian citizenship last year, after it had caused me much headache in obtaining security clearance), I’ve heard Aussies and Limeys say that neither Canuck nor Yank beer can be called “better”.

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    Wildmustang1262  almost 15 years ago

    Hey, hey you guys and gals! Relax! Let all of us respect others for celebrating the foreign’s holidays from their native countries. OK! It is OK that Mexican wants to celebrate their holiday as Cinco de Mayo and Independence Day. Pls, feel respect others for celebrating their holidays. :-) Peace and out!

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    Droptma Styx  almost 15 years ago

    LeonardWatson: Maybe you wouldn’t be so irritated about Cinco de Mayo if you moved out of that neighborhood. Your contempt of your allegedly undocumented Latino neighbors is coloring your whole worldview.

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    GuntotingLiberal  almost 15 years ago

    prasrinivara says: I’ve heard Aussies and Limeys say that neither Canuck nor Yank beer can be called “better”.

    The Limeys would know. The weather’s so bad over there it’s small wonder that all they ever do is sit in a dank pub and drink all day every day. :) Still, my limey friends rather liked Keith’s. Too bad all they import down south is Moosehead, Blue and Ex.

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    LeonardWatson  almost 15 years ago

    Since when did love of one’s country and patriotism equate to hatred and racism? That is the most ridiculous notion that I have ever heard.

    My ancestors immigrated to the US, I do not hate immigrants of any origin. However, criminals are criminals and if you came to this country illegally then you are not an undocumented person, you are a criminal. You broke the law. Regardless of your circumstances breaking the law still has consequences. If you get caught speeding the consequence is a ticket and fine. If you get caught stealing the consequence is prison time. If you commit murder the consequence is death (at least in States with the guts to keep the death penalty active and not cave in to the bleeding hearts). If you come to this country illegally the consequence is deportation. It is as simple as that. It is not hatred. It is not racism. It is law.

    As to moving out of my neighborhood, first of all I was there first why should I leave. Second, at this point in time I cannot afford to move.

    As to who has the best beer. Whether it is Canada, Britain, or Europe I will let you all fight that one out. I will say that all three have better beer that the US does. Just do me a favor when you serve it to me please make sure it is ice cold because warm beer is really disgusting.

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    lazygrazer  almost 15 years ago

    Maybe Leonard’s right—maybe this special day of victory and humor should be celebrated with protest signs and funeral dirges.

    R.I.P. Wiley.

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    cleokaya  almost 15 years ago

    If you think America doesn’t have good beer yo haven’t been to the Pacific Northwest.

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    Radical-Knight  almost 15 years ago

    I had to go back up and look what cartoon this was. I thought it was SOTU. I say let’s just buy Mexico, problem solved.

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    Reindom  almost 15 years ago

    I think that technically speaking, patriotism (of any country) is by definition hatred and racism. After all, what is the purpose of designating a border, keep them out, keep us protected, right?

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    Trademark  almost 15 years ago

    Since 3hourtour hasn’t said it yet I think I will….Happy Cartoonist’s Day.

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    johnnydoc5  almost 15 years ago

    American beer gets a bad rap because of all the big brewers, (miller, busch, and coors). However, a lot of locally brewed beers are really good.

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    lincolnhyde  almost 15 years ago

    Johnnydoc - unfortunately, I must disagree. The US law regulating beer content (a relic of prohibition) by definition makes our beer among the worst in the world. It is legal to create a decent beer, as long as you call it ale –

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    lincolnhyde  almost 15 years ago

    LeonardWatson - the Constitution, as amended, says in Amendment 14: 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    This means specifically that anyone born within our borders is a citizen, regardless of parentage - and it’s specifically in the Constitution, not in a court decision.

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    alife  almost 15 years ago
    We’re ALL 50th cousins## Play NICE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwNVYY1HAdY

    The Eyes of Nye - 107: Population 3/3 The Eyes of Nye - 108: Race 2/3 The Eyes of Nye - 105: Nuclear Energy 3/3

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    David_J Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    Sinko de Mayo…

    now THAT’S funny!

    I’m still giggling.

    Thanks Wicky.

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    The7Sticks  almost 15 years ago

    I knew it! I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought that May 5th is National Cartoonists Day. I remember about ten years ago that a bunch of comics that day displayed a National Cartoonists Day logo in their strips. Then it gradually wittled down to just a mention by one or two artists. Apparently, it’s become so much of a joke that most cartoonists simply gloss over NCD.

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    BetzD  almost 15 years ago

    To Wiky: No Mayo on the Titanic http://www.snopes.com/humor/jokes/sinkomayo.asp

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    wndrwrthg  almost 15 years ago

    BetzD: Of course there was mayo on the Titanic. It was originally made in county Mayo, Ireland, hence it’s name. It is a little kno fact that there was no mayonnaise made in this country until after 1912, and it started to be made here only because of the disaster.

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