Obama has continued Bush’s torture policy as president. Whether waterboarding is continuing at this time is unknown. Given what happened recently under Bush, coupled with Obama’s refusal to allow reporters and human rights advocates free access to Gitmo and other concentration camps in the US gulag system, it would be naive to assume that waterboarding is not continuing. Certainly, torture is.
Besides, the new facility at Bagram will be bigger, more brutal and more remote than Gitmo. And that’s Obama’s project.
A country can become so compromised that it builds up an immunity to self-awareness. Such a country will sputter and die regardless, but not from knowledge: it will die from cancer or diabetes or unyielding avarice.
Torture is not to be excused in any society, despite how common it is around the world. That would include listening to Fox or talk radio, but that’s self-inflicted. Cato comes perilously close at times.
“Wise men profit more from fools than fools from wise men; for the wise men shun the mistakes of fools, but fools do not imitate the successes of the wise.”
– Cato the Elder
egreshko about 13 years ago
A rather disingenuous comic. It explicitly infers that water-boarding continues to this day.
sirrom567 about 13 years ago
Vichy water would have been even more deliciously appropriate.
pirate227 about 13 years ago
Disingenuous but kind of funny.
gangsterxxx about 13 years ago
Whatever it takes to keep the U.S.A. safe ! You don’t think other countrys do worse ?
josefw about 13 years ago
Yep, this is funny…
@Sirro, save the Vichy water for the vegetables!
Jaedabee Premium Member about 13 years ago
But it’s using imported bottled water!
fritzoid Premium Member about 13 years ago
egreshko: “It explicitly infers that water-boarding continues to this day.”
No, it implies that waterboarding is going on to this day. The speaker implies, the listener infers.
Also, “explicitly implies” is an oxymoron. If it’s explicit, it’s not implicit. If it’s implicit, it’s not explicit.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 13 years ago
Gitmo is America’s Bastille.
It is so hated it weakens the power than handles it.
Dtroutma about 13 years ago
Be American! Use bourbon!
Ted Rall creator about 13 years ago
Obama has continued Bush’s torture policy as president. Whether waterboarding is continuing at this time is unknown. Given what happened recently under Bush, coupled with Obama’s refusal to allow reporters and human rights advocates free access to Gitmo and other concentration camps in the US gulag system, it would be naive to assume that waterboarding is not continuing. Certainly, torture is.
Besides, the new facility at Bagram will be bigger, more brutal and more remote than Gitmo. And that’s Obama’s project.
Ted Rall creator about 13 years ago
You’ll have to cut and paste the link, not just click it.
Ted Rall creator about 13 years ago
Check out http://www.cato.org/pubdisplay.php?pubid=11228
sirrom567 about 13 years ago
It’s been “moved or deleted.” Surprised?
ickymungmung about 13 years ago
A country can become so compromised that it builds up an immunity to self-awareness. Such a country will sputter and die regardless, but not from knowledge: it will die from cancer or diabetes or unyielding avarice.
Dtroutma about 13 years ago
Torture is not to be excused in any society, despite how common it is around the world. That would include listening to Fox or talk radio, but that’s self-inflicted. Cato comes perilously close at times.
sirrom567 about 13 years ago
“Wise men profit more from fools than fools from wise men; for the wise men shun the mistakes of fools, but fools do not imitate the successes of the wise.” – Cato the Elder
mattro65 about 13 years ago
fritzoid, you’re fighting a losing battle trying to encourage proper use of the Englitch langwitch.
fennec, you could probably expect Cato to support either the Democrat or Republican branch of the Money Party in matters of national security.
SABRSteve about 13 years ago
I watch Fox occasionally dtroutma and find it refreshing. Then I turn to MSNBC and find myself looking into the world of a pig sty.
sirrom567 about 13 years ago
Fairy tales are generally more entertaining than facts, SABR.