obama, Holder, Lynch, Mueller and Comey turned DOJ and FBI leadership into something out of a banana republic. I know folks in the working ranks – good people who wish they had had better leaders when the nation needed it most.
Remember how the warned us of the dangers of political parties and money in politics and we ignored them?
John Adams wrote in a letter in 1780: “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”
“I was no party man myself, and the first wish of my heart was, if parties did exist, to reconcile them.” GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Thomas Jefferson, July 6, 1796
The Justice Department is not supposed to be political. Some presidents have used it that way more than others, but none have threatened the Justice Department independence as much as trump. It is very dangerous, and the republicans are complicit in undermining the very rule of law they and every other public official is supposed to,uphold.
My outrage has not in any way diminished, despite the daily insults heaped on the nation by trump and the regressives. I have never donated to a politician, but these clowns are forcing my hand. I will be sending money where it’s likely to be most effective in restoring some semblance of honor to our nation. How depressing.
CLAYUSMCRET, Mueller and Comey are Republicans. Comey hurt HRC by bringing up emails right before the election even though the emails were duplicates of what was already reviewed. Repeating political “investigations” of HRC are showingg how the Repubs ion Congress are trying to create a banana republic. The “investigations” cost millions and the Repubs even admitted they were being done to hurt HRC’s poll numbers.
@GNARUSBELLATOR: I’m betting you don’t actually know any agents at all. All the ones I know both active and retired are very proud of the non-partisan way the investigations are being carried out and are also very impressed with Mueller’s tenacity and integrity which is demonstrated by the fact that he is a Republican and a good man. Obviously you didn’t learn that in the Corp like we did in the Army.
Vote out the Republican menace! This is extraordinarily alarming, that a slice of the American people do NOT want to know the truth! Ramirez, you are contributing to the obstruction of justice. I hope that it’s not too late come next November.
The FBI was actually known as “Trumpland” during the campaign. Comey actually donated to both the McCain and Romney campaigns. But NOW FBI bias is a problem? LOL
Look Ramirez, if what you’re trying to imply were true, that this is an institutional issue, rather than an individual one, Trump would not be president and you’d be under investigation.
Ramirez turns the propaganda crank in an attempt to discredit any investigation of potential “#45 Wrongdoing” — How SAD! [ Knowingly or not, Ramirez is a Putin enabler! ]
Wow! I am amazed at the stupid ignorance of some posters here. FYI, Mueller served as a Marine officer in Vietnam (take that USMCRetired!!!) earning a purple heart, etc.
Mueller was appointed FBI director by “W” not by Obama. And Comey was his assistant director under “W.” Try for facts, instead of stupid remarks.
From Wikipedia:
In March 2004, Mueller and deputy attorney general James Comey, threatened the Bush administration with their resignations if the White House overruled the DOJ finding that the domestic wiretapping under the Terrorist Surveillance Program (TSP) was unconstitutional, if such were done without a court warrant.
As director, Mueller barred personnel from the FBI from participating with the CIA in enhanced interrogations. At a dinner, Mueller defended an attorney (Thomas Wilner) who had been attacked for his role in defending Kuwaiti detainees, standing up, raising his glass and saying “I toast Tom Wilner. He’s doing what an American should.” When Bush confronted Mueller about the perception his agency was failing to round up more terrorists in the U.S., Mueller responded saying about possible suspects, “If they don’t commit a crime, it would be difficult to identify and isolate” them.
Those two paragraphs show that it was Bush and Cheney who were trying to make the US into a banana republic, where the government throws you in jail, just because. (And yeah, Obama, was not far behind Bush and Cheney.)
Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, seemed in a giddy mood when he was interviewed last week on the “Fox & Friends” morning television show.
His most remarkable claim is that he has a pipeline into the Federal Bureau of Investigation and that agents tell him they are “outraged” that they have not been able to bring Mrs. Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, to justice.
(Other conversation)
This enigmatic reply roused the show’s third host, Steve Doocy.
“October surprises?” he asked.
Mr. Giuliani expanded a bit.
“Well,” he said, “I call them early surprises in the way we’re going to campaign to get our message out, maybe in a little bit of a different way. You’ll see. And I think it’ll be enormously effective. And I do think that all of these revelations about Hillary Clinton finally are beginning to have an impact.”
Three days later, James B. Comey, the director of the F.B.I., said agents were reviewing emails “that appear to be pertinent” to a closed investigation of Mrs. Clinton’s use of a personal email server while secretary of state.
Some people only yell “political” when they don’t agree with what’s going on. When Comey resurrected the e-mail thing just before the election Republicans smiled and said, “let’s see where the process leads”. But then started screaming “political” when it didn’t go anywhere. Now they seem to think a Republican president is above the law. Bill Clinton, a Democrat, could be deposed in a civil suit for sexual harassment but Trump, a Republican can’t? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
The FBI under Hoover, with all the criminal activity, on HOOVER’S part, is long forgotten, and can you imagine how J. Edgar and Joe McCarthy are spinning to see Republicans defending corrupt activity, if not outright treason, between Trump and Putin/ Russian interferrance?
Zev over 6 years ago
Is that the new emblem of the Supreme Court? Fitting.
Guy Fawkes over 6 years ago
Late Lament
Breathe deep the gathering doom,
Our heroes revolve in every tomb.
Moral people look back and lament,
Another generation’s useless energy spent.
Impassioned voters wrestle as one,
Pedophiles cry for sex and have some.
The truth is out how lies have won,
Our enemy’s wishes are swiftly done.
Cold hearted Czar that enables the Right,
Removes the morals from their sight.
Bad is good and wrong a delight.
Will we decide which is right,
And which is an illusion?
clayusmcret Premium Member over 6 years ago
obama, Holder, Lynch, Mueller and Comey turned DOJ and FBI leadership into something out of a banana republic. I know folks in the working ranks – good people who wish they had had better leaders when the nation needed it most.
superposition over 6 years ago
Remember how the warned us of the dangers of political parties and money in politics and we ignored them?
John Adams wrote in a letter in 1780: “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”
“I was no party man myself, and the first wish of my heart was, if parties did exist, to reconcile them.” GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter to Thomas Jefferson, July 6, 1796
twclix over 6 years ago
The Justice Department is not supposed to be political. Some presidents have used it that way more than others, but none have threatened the Justice Department independence as much as trump. It is very dangerous, and the republicans are complicit in undermining the very rule of law they and every other public official is supposed to,uphold.
My outrage has not in any way diminished, despite the daily insults heaped on the nation by trump and the regressives. I have never donated to a politician, but these clowns are forcing my hand. I will be sending money where it’s likely to be most effective in restoring some semblance of honor to our nation. How depressing.
Nantucket Premium Member over 6 years ago
CLAYUSMCRET, Mueller and Comey are Republicans. Comey hurt HRC by bringing up emails right before the election even though the emails were duplicates of what was already reviewed. Repeating political “investigations” of HRC are showingg how the Repubs ion Congress are trying to create a banana republic. The “investigations” cost millions and the Repubs even admitted they were being done to hurt HRC’s poll numbers.
NRHAWK Premium Member over 6 years ago
@GNARUSBELLATOR: I’m betting you don’t actually know any agents at all. All the ones I know both active and retired are very proud of the non-partisan way the investigations are being carried out and are also very impressed with Mueller’s tenacity and integrity which is demonstrated by the fact that he is a Republican and a good man. Obviously you didn’t learn that in the Corp like we did in the Army.
Radish the wordsmith over 6 years ago
Loyalty to Trump takes precedence to loyalty to America.
Lou Nattic, né Stan C over 6 years ago
Vote out the Republican menace! This is extraordinarily alarming, that a slice of the American people do NOT want to know the truth! Ramirez, you are contributing to the obstruction of justice. I hope that it’s not too late come next November.
hooglah over 6 years ago
I love it when the little dweebs get upset when you stick a fork in the skank pig.
DonnyTwoScoops over 6 years ago
The FBI was actually known as “Trumpland” during the campaign. Comey actually donated to both the McCain and Romney campaigns. But NOW FBI bias is a problem? LOL
Zev over 6 years ago
Funny how every time things look hairy for the Trump administration, the ConBots pop up to comment.
Durak Premium Member over 6 years ago
Look Ramirez, if what you’re trying to imply were true, that this is an institutional issue, rather than an individual one, Trump would not be president and you’d be under investigation.
DrDon1 over 6 years ago
Ramirez turns the propaganda crank in an attempt to discredit any investigation of potential “#45 Wrongdoing” — How SAD! [ Knowingly or not, Ramirez is a Putin enabler! ]
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member over 6 years ago
Wow! I am amazed at the stupid ignorance of some posters here. FYI, Mueller served as a Marine officer in Vietnam (take that USMCRetired!!!) earning a purple heart, etc.
Mueller was appointed FBI director by “W” not by Obama. And Comey was his assistant director under “W.” Try for facts, instead of stupid remarks.
From Wikipedia:
In March 2004, Mueller and deputy attorney general James Comey, threatened the Bush administration with their resignations if the White House overruled the DOJ finding that the domestic wiretapping under the Terrorist Surveillance Program (TSP) was unconstitutional, if such were done without a court warrant.
As director, Mueller barred personnel from the FBI from participating with the CIA in enhanced interrogations. At a dinner, Mueller defended an attorney (Thomas Wilner) who had been attacked for his role in defending Kuwaiti detainees, standing up, raising his glass and saying “I toast Tom Wilner. He’s doing what an American should.” When Bush confronted Mueller about the perception his agency was failing to round up more terrorists in the U.S., Mueller responded saying about possible suspects, “If they don’t commit a crime, it would be difficult to identify and isolate” them.
Those two paragraphs show that it was Bush and Cheney who were trying to make the US into a banana republic, where the government throws you in jail, just because. (And yeah, Obama, was not far behind Bush and Cheney.)
braindead Premium Member over 6 years ago
Why do Trump Disciples have to lie about every issue?
.
Evidently, they are getting pretty apprehensive about the guilty pleas and the expected cooperation, and the collusion and treason it will reveal.
Silly Season over 6 years ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/nyregion/as-trump-ally-rudy-giuliani-hints-at-ties-to-the-fbi.html
Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, seemed in a giddy mood when he was interviewed last week on the “Fox & Friends” morning television show.
His most remarkable claim is that he has a pipeline into the Federal Bureau of Investigation and that agents tell him they are “outraged” that they have not been able to bring Mrs. Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, to justice.
(Other conversation)
This enigmatic reply roused the show’s third host, Steve Doocy.
“October surprises?” he asked.
Mr. Giuliani expanded a bit.
“Well,” he said, “I call them early surprises in the way we’re going to campaign to get our message out, maybe in a little bit of a different way. You’ll see. And I think it’ll be enormously effective. And I do think that all of these revelations about Hillary Clinton finally are beginning to have an impact.”
Three days later, James B. Comey, the director of the F.B.I., said agents were reviewing emails “that appear to be pertinent” to a closed investigation of Mrs. Clinton’s use of a personal email server while secretary of state.
Scoutmaster77 over 6 years ago
No, it’s not!
ED CANTWELL over 6 years ago
Some people only yell “political” when they don’t agree with what’s going on. When Comey resurrected the e-mail thing just before the election Republicans smiled and said, “let’s see where the process leads”. But then started screaming “political” when it didn’t go anywhere. Now they seem to think a Republican president is above the law. Bill Clinton, a Democrat, could be deposed in a civil suit for sexual harassment but Trump, a Republican can’t? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.
Dtroutma over 6 years ago
The FBI under Hoover, with all the criminal activity, on HOOVER’S part, is long forgotten, and can you imagine how J. Edgar and Joe McCarthy are spinning to see Republicans defending corrupt activity, if not outright treason, between Trump and Putin/ Russian interferrance?