According to RCP, President Obama’s disapproval rating hit 50%+ this morning. That has absolutely nothing to do with the GOP, only the ineptness of the Democrats.
Libertarian1 – and how well has the Libertarian party been doing in the only poll that actually matters, the one on election day? Americans aren’t buying your vision of a nasty, brutish America.
We are much more spoiled and less community oriented than in the 1930’s. We want our pre-2008 lives back (a’la Tony Hayward). We want it all and we want it right now.
mrdoody brought up some good points. When so much of what we buy comes from overseas,who’s gonna pay me for what I do? We’re not at the cliff yet, but we need a new direction.
RCP prints a running summary of multiple polls. It is not one that skews Republican like Rasmussen or one that skews Democratic like Zolby. It combines many and is considered the closest to the state of polling on that day. It changes daily.
What confuses me from comments above is what earthly difference does it make if Nixon 50 years ago was 5% positive and 95% negative? We are only concerned with Obama and the Democrats this November and in 2012. If the Democrats lose badly this November will you feel better because Nixon or Bush was even more unpopular? Weird.
ARodney- basically there is no libertarian party, just libertarian ideas. Jefferson, Madison, Paine- the founding fathers. I understand many reject the basic principles of this country and feel much more comfortable with Eugene V. Debs evolving from Karl Marx. That just does not happen to be the way I go.
According to current elections and primaries Democrats are not doing too badly. In fact there’s concern over whether or not the Tea party will cost the GOP seats.
Peter the Great is correct, except that it was NOT the GOP that was “driving”…..it was the leading Democrat incumbents, Dodd and Frank and all their allies, that prevented the Bush administration from correcting the Fannie and Freddie agencies that were used to create the federal destruction of sensible economics to force highly regulated lender institutions to grant huge loans to people with no ability to repay….the Democrat’s “version” of the American Dream to be able to work and earn and save and buy the family a nice home.
Lenders were green-mailed and black-mailed into making Loser Loans by government officials and by orgs such as ACORN…..Obama’s “community organizer” network.
Disgustedtaxpayer. Yes, please get the facts. ACORN helped about 50,000 people get home mortgages. There are roughly 47,000,000 home mortgages, and by the end of 2009, 25% - 11.9 million of them were under water, meaning people borrowed more than the house is currently worth, with little equity.
The ‘booming’ economy from 2000-2007 was mostly fueled by people taking trillions of dollars of ‘equity’ out of their homes through borrowing against ballooning home values. As people borrowed against fantasy future only-increasing valuations of their property, these mortgages flooded the system with newly created dollars. It was a ponzi, doomed to inevitable collapse.
So, assuming that ALL the mortgages ACORN pushed over 13 years were still in force (which is unlikely), Acorn was responsible for pushing less than 1/2 of 1% of all the subprime mortgages (the $11.9 million in trouble).
ACORN is a red meat/ red herring. It’s used to stir up anger at” those lazy poor mostly colored people who are the reason you are being sucked dry.” It keeps the gullible from getting the real facts, from understanding the roots of our national distress, and from taking effective action against the real causes.
“Retail” and the economy were tanking badly in 2003, and phony banking practices were just making things worse. The economy (think S & Ls and real estate) were also tanking badly under Reagan- GHW was right- voodoo economics.
Maybe that voodoo is what wiped out the right-wing’s total memory?? Yep, that elephant did a great job when they had the steering wheel.
Heh…last night Jon Stewart played a clip of House Minority Leader John Boehner giving this profound Republican take on what we should do: “The only way we’re going to get our economy going again, and solve our budget problems, is to get the economy moving.”
Sigh.
He also showed a CNN clip stating that if the Bush tax cuts were allowed to expire, it would reduce our deficit by 30%. Now, since Bush left office, the Republicans have suddenly decided that the deficit is bad, and that we should work towards deficit reduction.
Which is why they’re all in favor of renewing the Bush tax cuts, right?
T Gabriel Premium Member over 13 years ago
just perfect…
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
According to RCP, President Obama’s disapproval rating hit 50%+ this morning. That has absolutely nothing to do with the GOP, only the ineptness of the Democrats.
Kylop over 13 years ago
Libertarian1, aren’t poll numbers subject to being twisted in unexpected ways? Are you sure that you want to open that can of worms?
ARodney over 13 years ago
Libertarian1 – and how well has the Libertarian party been doing in the only poll that actually matters, the one on election day? Americans aren’t buying your vision of a nasty, brutish America.
charliekane over 13 years ago
We are much more spoiled and less community oriented than in the 1930’s. We want our pre-2008 lives back (a’la Tony Hayward). We want it all and we want it right now.
mrdoody brought up some good points. When so much of what we buy comes from overseas,who’s gonna pay me for what I do? We’re not at the cliff yet, but we need a new direction.
Libertarian1 over 13 years ago
RCP prints a running summary of multiple polls. It is not one that skews Republican like Rasmussen or one that skews Democratic like Zolby. It combines many and is considered the closest to the state of polling on that day. It changes daily.
What confuses me from comments above is what earthly difference does it make if Nixon 50 years ago was 5% positive and 95% negative? We are only concerned with Obama and the Democrats this November and in 2012. If the Democrats lose badly this November will you feel better because Nixon or Bush was even more unpopular? Weird.
ARodney- basically there is no libertarian party, just libertarian ideas. Jefferson, Madison, Paine- the founding fathers. I understand many reject the basic principles of this country and feel much more comfortable with Eugene V. Debs evolving from Karl Marx. That just does not happen to be the way I go.
pirate227 over 13 years ago
Be careful what you ask for…
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
According to current elections and primaries Democrats are not doing too badly. In fact there’s concern over whether or not the Tea party will cost the GOP seats.
petergrt over 13 years ago
The toon is all wrong:
Its the donkey that is holding the car back!!!
We will cut the tie-up in November …
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
^ Totally. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_08/025139.php
Attempting to completely shut down the House is totally the way to go.
bobpeters61 over 13 years ago
^And there you see the result of unbridled corporatism: even the spammers are bragging about shipping jobs off to Red China.
SuperGriz over 13 years ago
We went over the cliff a long time ago.
disgustedtaxpayer over 13 years ago
Peter the Great is correct, except that it was NOT the GOP that was “driving”…..it was the leading Democrat incumbents, Dodd and Frank and all their allies, that prevented the Bush administration from correcting the Fannie and Freddie agencies that were used to create the federal destruction of sensible economics to force highly regulated lender institutions to grant huge loans to people with no ability to repay….the Democrat’s “version” of the American Dream to be able to work and earn and save and buy the family a nice home.
Lenders were green-mailed and black-mailed into making Loser Loans by government officials and by orgs such as ACORN…..Obama’s “community organizer” network.
Please! Get the true facts.
vhammon over 13 years ago
Disgustedtaxpayer. Yes, please get the facts. ACORN helped about 50,000 people get home mortgages. There are roughly 47,000,000 home mortgages, and by the end of 2009, 25% - 11.9 million of them were under water, meaning people borrowed more than the house is currently worth, with little equity.
The ‘booming’ economy from 2000-2007 was mostly fueled by people taking trillions of dollars of ‘equity’ out of their homes through borrowing against ballooning home values. As people borrowed against fantasy future only-increasing valuations of their property, these mortgages flooded the system with newly created dollars. It was a ponzi, doomed to inevitable collapse.
So, assuming that ALL the mortgages ACORN pushed over 13 years were still in force (which is unlikely), Acorn was responsible for pushing less than 1/2 of 1% of all the subprime mortgages (the $11.9 million in trouble).
ACORN is a red meat/ red herring. It’s used to stir up anger at” those lazy poor mostly colored people who are the reason you are being sucked dry.” It keeps the gullible from getting the real facts, from understanding the roots of our national distress, and from taking effective action against the real causes.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2330071920070423 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/how-many-did-acorn-trick-into-loans http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/23/realestate/underwaterrates_rise/
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
“Retail” and the economy were tanking badly in 2003, and phony banking practices were just making things worse. The economy (think S & Ls and real estate) were also tanking badly under Reagan- GHW was right- voodoo economics.
Maybe that voodoo is what wiped out the right-wing’s total memory?? Yep, that elephant did a great job when they had the steering wheel.
riley05 over 13 years ago
Heh…last night Jon Stewart played a clip of House Minority Leader John Boehner giving this profound Republican take on what we should do: “The only way we’re going to get our economy going again, and solve our budget problems, is to get the economy moving.”
Sigh.
He also showed a CNN clip stating that if the Bush tax cuts were allowed to expire, it would reduce our deficit by 30%. Now, since Bush left office, the Republicans have suddenly decided that the deficit is bad, and that we should work towards deficit reduction.
Which is why they’re all in favor of renewing the Bush tax cuts, right?
lonecat over 13 years ago
vhammon – thank you for introducing some actual factual information into these discussions.
Anthony – yes, the way to get moving is to get moving. That should help.
riley05 over 13 years ago
One can only wonder how much GoComics makes from this spam, since they do nothing to block it.
charliekane over 13 years ago
Here’s to ‘hammon!
dtp needs some tp to clean up that bleeep he shat out.