Henry Payne for May 15, 2014

Why put one’s ignorance on public display? Payne should stick to his bumper stickers.

If you can’t make a point with the truth, what difference? You’re talking about science to a group that honestly believes Bush (A) was articulate and (B) didn’t use a teleprompter.You’d have to be more careful with your facts in a roomful of labrador retrievers than you do with the true believing mouth breathers you’ve assembled, Henry.

The only way to reduce CO emissions enough to turn around global warming is to have less people on the planet. The easiest way to reduce the population is through war, famine and disease. Nations are already working on this.

You haven’t watched Bush speak, have you? He all too often flubbed it, mispronounced words, or talked down to the audience. When he did get it right, he looked too proud of himself.As for the teleprompter crack, every President has used it since it was invented. Why do people suddenly care that Obama uses one?

Most reputable scientists agree human activity is affecting climate. One can argue about the scale of the effects since our climate models are imperfect but clearly we are warming the planet. To simply deny the whole thing is no longer reasonable. It is the modern version of a Luddite.

Henry – When citing warmer and colder references along with the month please include latitude and longitude.

Two possibilities: 1. Payne really is that ignorant; 2. Payne isn’t that ignorant but he’s willing to tell lies for money. Which is it?

I understood the old argument Mr. Payne recycles on a regular basis: it gets cold in winter. Therefore there is no global warming. I get it. Funny, and more funny each time it’s presented.

But this is a new approach. “April is warmer than January.” How does that prove there’s no global warming? Well, I’m sure that it does prove that climatologists are all incorrect. And more importantly, it’s one more reason to disbelieve anything Mr. Obama says. Maybe the cause-and-effect of the ‘toon is over my head. Or maybe Mr. Payne will use any construct, no matter how flimsy, no matter whether it’s at all applicable, to try to make Mr. Obama look wrong.

You want sources? We’ve got sources. You could start with David Archer:+ The Global Carbon Cycle (Princeton Primers in Climate), The Global Carbon Cycle (Princeton Primers in Climate) The Warming Papers: The Scientific Foundation for the Climate Change Forecast, 2010, edited with Raymond Pierrehumbert, ISBN 978-1-4051-9616-1, 432 pages The Long Thaw: How Humans Are Changing the Next 100,000 Years of Earth’s Climate, 2008, ISBN 978-0-691-13654-7, 192 pages The Climate Crisis: An Introductory Guide to Climate Change, 2010, ISBN 978-0-521-73255-0, 260 pages Global Warming: Understanding the Forecast, 2006, ISBN 978-1-4051-4039-3, 208 pages+Read these and get back to us.

Bush couldn’t do more than three sentences without tripping over his tongue. There was not a book of “Bushisms” published without a lot of raw material.

“The same alarmists claimed the impending new ice age was “proven fact” 40 years ago, and the same alarmists have now been claiming disaster in 10-12 years for over 20 years now.”-So much easier to say things when you just make them up than when you actually provide proof.

We actually had January days warmer than April, and it’s been happening for a decade now, and when you depend on snowfall, for many things, that is NOT good!! The west is warmer drought, and it isn’t over.

The Lysenko episode of Soviet science is weird and awful, but it’s a Procrustean stretch to compare it to the present situation. What pogroms in regard to what disproof?

You say, “The first fails basic biology or just lies about how all organic lifeforms do with carbon”. Could you please explain what you mean? What does it mean to say that this book lies about how all organic lifeforms do with carbon? Do what?

Sigh.

Well I just don’t see that at all. Archer has a very clear discussion of the carbon cycle as a whole, and nothing is magically conjured up out of nowhere.

Hmm, “basic cellular biology” turns water and sugar directly into hydrocarbon fuels inside the cells of plants; no pressure, no heat, and no decomposition that takes centuries to occur. Interesting, I think I’ll just pick me some coal this year instead of spinach.

^Yup, C6H12O6, just put some in your gas tank and improve your performance.

“Normally I’d tell you to Google “global cooling articles” or “global warming studies 1990-1995” but I doubt you’d actually read them, or do anything but spam more troll insults.”-Translation: “I don’t have any proof for what I said, so here’s my excuse for providing none. It will include how not having facts to point to makes me superior to you.”

Well, I can see why you don’t like David Archer. You say, “Sugars are hydrocarbons, so are starches”, and he says “Although the words ‘carbohydrates’ and ‘hydrocarbons’ look similar, they denote sugars and oils, respectively. These are very different types of molecules.” How could he be so wrong!!! I’m glad you’ve set this right, and I expect that you can correct all his errors in just the same way.

http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-hydrocarbons-and-vs-carbohydrates/

A cartoonist or 99% of the worlds trained scientists?So hard to choose.

If this trend continues the world will be far too hot to support life long before the end of the year.

Check the temps in your local area and see what will happen if we don’t stop this. I blame all devices we use that generate heat.

The first thing we need to do is to ban air conditioners. Sure, they make things nice and cool /inside/, but have you ever stood near one /outside/? Nothing but very hot air blowing at you. AC manufacturers do this on purpose. You turn on the AC on a warm day, as do a thousand of your neighbors. The temperature outside raises a bit. More folks retreat inside and turn on the AC. This makes it even warmer outside and the cycle continues until everyone is indoors and you can bake bread just by sticking it out the window.

Then we need to ban all cooking except by microwave oven. Other cooking appliances generate far too much heat to be considered viable given our current state of emergency.

Cathode ray tube televisions are real ovens – we need to send troops door to door looking for these little plastic heat tabs and have them confiscated whenever they are found. DVR’s and control boxes can be dealt with on a case by case basis since some do not run as hot as others – the troops can measure the heat being radiated from them and take the ones exceeding prescribed levels.

Police should be issued heat scanners and any personal electronics exceeding federal limits for heat radiation will be confiscated.

Coffee makers need to go, have you ever checked that plate the glass thingy sits on? It’s HOT as HELL!

Simple fact is, we need to stop warming up the planet with all this heat generating technology. People need to cut down, or cut out completely, use of such things.

Except for me, of course. I am the whistle blower bringing this message to the world so MY use of heat generating products doesn’t count.

You sure do understand how all that sciencey stuff works, Joe. Gollllly, ain’t no need to ever open a book or go to skool or nothin. You’re right — stupidity and ignorance are way more useful than book learnin’